Central League

Who? NCR or Palmy Marist?

Predictions for this Weekend

Mar vs Rovers -- Rovers

Wests vs Stop Out -- Draw

PNMarist vs Olympic-- Olympic

Weenix vs Lower Hutt -- Weenix

Petone vs Rapa -- Rapa

Can be found here http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4...

Golden Boot - Round 4:

• Rauri Cahill-Fluery (Wellington United) 6
• Micky Malivuk (Stop Out) 6
• Sam Mason-Smith (Wairarapa United) 6
• Nathanial Hailemariam (Lower Hutt) 5

who is the current top scorer for rovers? Surely one of them must be up there... 

Angus Killkolly with 5

Interesting...

Having this discussion at moment on Twitter, didn't he sign a three year contract with the Nix? So have they allowed United to play pros in CL?

I've never seen anything in the regs that says they can't anyway? Note: I'm not saying they can play, just that I haven't seen any reason why they can't loan these players to WU, and I'm not exactly knowledgable in this area. 

If anybody can be bothered enlightening me, then feel free. 

McGarry was signed on a 3 year professional contract...

It can only be 1) his pro contract was "discontinued" and he has served the stand-down period - 30 days i think or 2) Wellington United have fielded an ineligible player. No other options

So probably a deal between Nix and United and he becomes amateur for them after stand down and then will get resigned for Nix next season.

9 months player, 3 months player/coaching contract?

It would be interesting to see how they are working the system. 

No doubt there is enough wiggle room in FIFA's regulations but it would be interesting to see how far the Nix were pushing the whole thing.

So if the rumour is true McGarry's contract has been terminated. He is a free agent. If Nix then re-sign him, have they cocked a snook to the FIFA players status system, the local clubs, NZF regulations?

Or they're making a mockery of the Central League and don't give a shark if they get the points taken off them. All about competitive football, not results.

guess they've mutually terminated the contract. 

It's a shame there isn't a solution where these young guys can be pros and play over winter. I guess that is the end goal when ASBP moves to the winter (although then the downside would be that fringe guys couldn't keep sharp with game time during A league season). 

It's an interesting situation. I can see the nix point of view where they want youngsters to become pros, and to get game time (which is good for the game), and can also see winter clubs point of view in how the nix are stepping on toes and breaking regs (which are there for a reason) if they play pro players.  

There is nothing wrong with McGarry playing if he has been through the stand down period though. 

It does seem like the nix should have been more careful not to piss people off though. Being a bit clearer with their intentions and actions would have gone a long way. 

If Nix have played by the rules, they will argue "nothing to see, jog on". Think they should make a clarification statement though.

could the contracts of some of these guys be structured in such a way that they don't get paid during the offseason? Meaning they aren't getting paid more than their expenses to play on loan during the offseason (effectively making them amateur)? Would that even be a valid work around? 

Seems more likely the contract has been terminated though. Take the risk that nobody else will sign them, in order to get them game time to develop. 

if somehow not breaking the amateur rule then it is underhand and devious 

moot point... you're either a pro or you're not, end of

Saw first half of Wests v Stop Out today.  Would have loved to have stayed for second half but had another committment.  3-2 to SO at half time. I see above Wests won 5-3.

I assume Wests put up with Declan Edge because he is seen as a good coach.  His yelling and screaming and running up and down the sideline like a lunatic is simply embarrassing.  It looked like a spectator jumped the rope into his technical area and had a go at him about his language and kids on the sideline etc.  Referee Anthony Riley had a word with him at one point.  If it had been any other coach he would have been sent. 

Then Chris Sambrooke on the other bench starts having a go as well on the basis that you only get something given if you scream and shout. Riley had a word there as well.  Seemed like the refs had their hands full keeping the benches under control, let alone the on field players.

Impressed with Noah Billingsley up front for Wests and also the right back, young lad, number 19. 

Less impressed with Edge Junior.  Hardly left the centre circle.  The most he ran in the first half was to join in someone elses melee and got a yellow card for his troubles. 

Great half from Abba, two very well taken goals.  Corrales didnt look interested.  Assume he had his money. 

And Chris Campbell in goal for SO.  Suspect he wont sleep well tonight.  First goal went under his armpit on a dive.  Should have been a routine save.  Then he dropped cold an easy lob straight at the feet of a Wests player for their second.  Sort of howler that would see a keeper dropped next game in an under 12 team.

some report that

nix are a joke,these kids of ex all whites are on 50 k plus a year yet they can play central league,why? Because they want them to be playing football,why sign them at such a young age if you have no intention of playing  them.the nix are developing more Aussies than New Zealanders.How many nzers have been developed since merrick has been there.Fenton has gone backwards in the last year or so,gulley has been there for 4 years been signed for 1 then let go and has to trial again.Boyd was let go,tam,Blake,Stevens let go after 3 years of being there,Boxall gone hardly played,Adams hardly played,brockie gone.lRufer had 3 years barely played,rogerson,McGarry signed for 3 years after 1 year McGarry had 15 mins rogerson none.you are all supporting a team of foreigners,considering that the nix are the only pro team we have they are not developing nzers at all.I am not surprised at all of the lack of numbers at games.Some of the players may have become nzers because of the amount of time they have been here but the majority were not developed here

The absolute worst thing about McGarry playing yesterday is that Shaun Gill stood in front of CL clubs with CF asking for support FROM CL clubs. CF said there would be further consultation process, where is that??. Gill and the Phoenix are so arrogant they do not care about amateur clubs they only care about themselves. Disgraceful. 

Yes the players shouldn't sit still over the winter period but that is not the point here. Gill has shown he doesn't give a toss about his very fan base. His arrogance will come back to haunt him sometime soon. Gill has forgotten where he came from!!!!

Absolute Joke, Phoenix you should be ashamed. 

Lower Hutt should feel hard done by. The so called professional steps up and scores the equaliser with1 min to go. Gill said that the pros would not have that much influence on the games they played in.... Yeah Right

Just a few things with this, the club in the scheme of having a New Zealand system and developing players is still very new. The Aussie teams are miles ahead of us in that department. 

Boxall actually played 39 games with 27 starts including 2 goals for the Nix. The Nix wanted to keep him but he got a better offer from Supersport and in a salary cap league the Nix couldn't keep him.

Boyd was not seeing first team time and was eventually let go, not because he wasn't good enough as you could see on the forums that amount of people that wanted him to get more game time, he was let go because of his attitude. Now playing in Portugal he can't crack the first team there.

Signing players is a risk and a few we will have signed won't end up seeing game time. But the Nix will want to keep them and see if they can crack the first team or they are back ups in case of injury instead of not signing them and losing them to other clubs. But sometimes signings don't work also, look at Sarpong, was a foreign signing that didn't see a lot of game time before getting let go too. 

I agree that the Nix need to develop NZ players (also play nice with local teams) but they are only a few years into this and I expect to see more come out of the academy, WelNix and Wellington United over the years (as long as they don't keep pissing people off)

I am getting a bit confused by all the comings and goings - professional players in amateur leagues, etc.

After the meeting in Wellington, some minutes of the meeting came out and showed the club's opinions as per my previous post.   You are right, there was to be further consultation with the Wellington Clubs.   To the best of my knowledge that has not happened.

I spoke to the Central League manager regarding one of the players who had appeared who told me that the idea of the Phoenix kids playing in the Central League was off the agenda for the time being and there should be something coming out from Richard Reid as to what had happened.

To this time and date, nothing has happened.

I now have the thought that you might be right Frenchie, as to the attitude of the Phoenix, and I also wonder at the involvement of Capital Football as they administer the Central League.   They are certainly not communicating with the Central League committee - our Chair is on that committee.

If I was old and cynical (which everyone who knows me would deny) I would think that something stinks and is not quite kosher.

just to throw a cat out amongst the pigeons - with the above reg, how did NZF get around it to play professionals from the Nix in the ASBP?


Could it not be that this same workaround has been applied in this situation (rightly or wrongly)

I thought that too.

But this is a Capital Football thing.

Sounds like the Nix tried that work-around but didn't get the permission from the CL clubs (unlike ASB Prem)

I guess my point is, where is the clause that allows a professional to play as long as the other teams don't complain?  it seems like it's a FIFA article so either NZF found a loophole or they are in breach of another FIFA law.


If not and it's a NZF thing then since NZF broke their own law for the ASBP then I guess Cap Football are just following their lead.


However I do agree Nix have to be careful not to alienate their own market.

Would be easier to have their promising young pro's play in the Aussie state leagues?  and leave the Central league to the academy players?

The ASB was different in that the Nix got agreement from the other clubs to all them to play 3 professional per game  

I think the point Chopah is making is nowhere in the regs does it say "a club can play 3 pros of the other clubs agree that they can" - likewise with central league. 

Back to the football. Anyone not at DF Park missed a cracker of a game. And looking at the days results this is shaping up to be a great season in CL 

Where as I watched Petone v rapa. Petone are so bad it isn't funny.