Central League 2

Bigboot wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:

 LT01 wrote:
Is trimming to eight teams an option? 

I really don't think they need to. Just from what I've gathered throughout this year, Gisborne United would love to go up, same as Whanganui, same as Greytown, same as Havelock North. The issue is just whether they allow CL2 teams or not. The pool of ambitious clubs with first teams not already in CL or CL2 is thin in Wellington which is another factor that will impact this. Outside of Greytown, the only other club side in the Cap region i can think would probably be Welly United that habours aspirations of making it back to CL.

Wellington United are a long long way away from CL football

theprof wrote:
it's gonna take a bit for the United men to get out of Cap1, gonna need a lot of investment, something similar to what was done with the women a few years back.

 

reubee wrote:

 Tyler wrote:
Options being discussed and agreed. I believe the options are. 

1- keep CL2 as is (first teams only from Capital and Central).

2- keep CL2 but allow ressies teams in there based on current placements from Capital prem. Think would mean Olympic ressies go in.

3- scrap CL2 and send the Central teams back to Central. Would mean the Capital CL2 teams would go to Cap Prem. 

I'd vote 3
I think there is too much travel fatigue, as you go down the pyramid there should be less travel.
The National League System in the UK  has a 1-2-4-8-16 model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_League_System#Organisation:~:text=pure%20pyramid%20in%20a%201%2D2%2D4%2D8%2D16%20was%20the%20goal .  With our geography and population distribution, we should have a 1-3-6-12 model which would mean no CL2 but a CL2 North, CL2 South.  

Step 1: National
Step 2:Northern, Central, Southern
Step 3:NL2 North, NL2  South, CL2 North, CL2 South, SL2 North, SL2 South 
Step 4:Northland, Auckland, Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Taranaki, Hawkes Bay, Manawatu, Wellington, Tasman, Canterbury, Otago, Southland

Depending on the teams and distributions, that might mean a team in the middle geographically such as TK could be in CL2 North one year and CL2 South the next.  In a worst case scenario of 11 Capital and 9 Central, you might go with a CL2 East and a CL2 West.
 
For reserve teams, a regulation for reserve teams to be a minimum number of divisions apart, I'd probably say 2 steps apart, so a National league reserve team could be as high as step 3, a Northern, Central, Southern reserve team to be as high as step 4.

bigfudge wrote:

 reubee wrote:

 Tyler wrote:
Options being discussed and agreed. I believe the options are. 

1- keep CL2 as is (first teams only from Capital and Central).

2- keep CL2 but allow ressies teams in there based on current placements from Capital prem. Think would mean Olympic ressies go in.

3- scrap CL2 and send the Central teams back to Central. Would mean the Capital CL2 teams would go to Cap Prem. 

I'd vote 3
I think there is too much travel fatigue, as you go down the pyramid there should be less travel.
The National League System in the UK  has a 1-2-4-8-16 model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_League_System#Organisation:~:text=pure%20pyramid%20in%20a%201%2D2%2D4%2D8%2D16%20was%20the%20goal .  With our geography and population distribution, we should have a 1-3-6-12 model which would mean no CL2 but a CL2 North, CL2 South.  

Step 1: National
Step 2:Northern, Central, Southern
Step 3:NL2 North, NL2  South, CL2 North, CL2 South, SL2 North, SL2 South 
Step 4:Northland, Auckland, Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Taranaki, Hawkes Bay, Manawatu, Wellington, Tasman, Canterbury, Otago, Southland

Depending on the teams and distributions, that might mean a team in the middle geographically such as TK could be in CL2 North one year and CL2 South the next.  In a worst case scenario of 11 Capital and 9 Central, you might go with a CL2 East and a CL2 West.
 
For reserve teams, a regulation for reserve teams to be a minimum number of divisions apart, I'd probably say 2 steps apart, so a National league reserve team could be as high as step 3, a Northern, Central, Southern reserve team to be as high as step 4.





 

This is just Fed League which is what Central Football was trying to avoid with the introduction of CL2. In theory it makes complete sense.

One of the issues is the gap between the ambitious sides in the Central Federation and the local club sides is just too big. That's why CL2 works (for Central Football at least), becuase it allows the ambitious sides to play at a good level and against good opposition, and lets the local clubs play at East and West Prem. 

There are plenty of difficult challenges for Central sides to overcome and CL2 has undoubtedly helped.

I love the sound of you idea, but it would probably just turn into 4-5 clubs form the Central Region, and then a bunch of Welly sides having to be 'North'.