Central League Thread

I think you are right about if he's given a penalty he has deemed it a deliberate handball. Not all deliberate handball's in the box will get a red card though - in fact sometimes there's a deliberate handball in the box that doesn't even warrant a yellow because it may have been unintentional. If there is intent then a deliberate handball is always a yellow IMO (in the box or not). And if is a blatant denial of a goal it's a straight red.I know that sounds Irish but a deliberate handball can be unintentional; remember deliberate is all about the movement of the hand/arm toward the ball (or not moving your arm away from its 'natural position' when you could have). I didn't see the game, but if the player moved his hand to protect his face it's not even a free kick. I've seen refs interpret things differently though and it can be a bit subtle in truth. What if the player protects his face, but intentionally directs the ball away from the goal at the same time?? That is actually a penalty and a red card.

that doesnt make a lot of sense fella

I expect to see Olympic fc handed down a large fine and coach and player suspenshion for three weeks over public humiliation of officials over this, otherwise it reaks of double standards and the dictatorship that is Capital Chaos will be found out to be nothing but a JOKE.

In the past, as we all know, I have intentionally handballed to prevent a goal and deservedly so, been sent off.

Wharfies would

The video of the goal doesnt do you justice chops, just makes it looks like you should take up goal keeping... great save m8, hold those....lol

bobboltontawa22011-06-28 09:57:08

Yeah it sounds Irish like I said. But deliberate handball does not equate to intent. You remember the Patrick Kluivert handball against Liverpool in the UEFA cup a few years back? He jumped for a header with his arm up sticking up vertically and the ball hit it. It was deliberate under the law book definition and hence a penalty, but did he mean to do it? No, I don't think so. I think that's why the rule is written the way it is -I mean how can a ref get inside a player's mind to know if he meant to handle the ball? And we have all played a bit and not meant to handle the ball or handled it accidentally at times, and yet it has still been deliberate. "O ref I didn't mean to!" we have cried - but that's no excuse.Toffeeman662011-06-28 10:06:04

People have been telling me that for years. Something along the lines of I'm sh*te outfield and should be in goal

You're exactly right Smithy.

teams have been fined $250 for ref banter at after matches. Surely the Dom Post is another level up

It is really hard to explain How bad the officials were in this game. The fourth goal was almost a flykick to the head.

Looking at the list of players who have cards, that will mean Jamie O, and Chas will miss weeks game due to having 5 yellow cards.

I think all you lot bitching should take a year off and actually become a ref just to see what its like.

Not to mention those in lower grades would love to have a ref, but its guys in the top grades that put refs off.

They are all we have and the best we have, why? maybe treat them a little better and we might have more to choose from.

ok you can have John  Rowbury

Thought I'd check out the status of yellow cards from CL clubs; it's a bit biased because the website only shows players on 3 or more, but it does tell a story: Olympic 27, Napier & Wests 12, Tawa 11, Miramar 10, Petone 9, LH, 8, PN Marist, Maycenvale and Wairarapa 4. So Olympic top of the league by some distance. I like the Greeks and the way they approach many aspects of the game. But please someone at your great club sort this out!

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This stinks of racism - no one likes Olympic cos they're are greasy whining wogs! Not a Tawa fan, but glad to see Olympic get hammered and then blame it on the officials. F#ck them - pack of horrible c#nts!!!  And as for they're coach crying to the Dominion Post - grow the f#ck up!!!

My Dear boy ( I can only assume that your are one...) If your don't like Olympic or any other Club for that matter it is perfectly ok..it is your right to have an opinion and also to have the freedom of speach to say so. However the minute you start becoming racist and use racing comments then that is NOT OK . In making these comments hiding behind your "username" that makes me �even more determined to find out as to who you are, NOT to punish you but to welcome you in "our culture and to our club" so you can see and possibly learn something for the first time in your life.


el grapadura2011-06-29 22:00:08

Young man. Don't join a discussion that has nothing to do you with you with comments like that. If you would like to be involved in it then come and discuss it with us in the stand at Newtown park this Sunday, there will be plenty of Olympic players there. Then decide if we are all c##ts.

Young man, there's no need to feel down...

I hid the post in question, it was much too abusive.

Did Chuckie write it? I have a fair idea of who that is!

yeah it was over the top

It was Hutt Boy. Absolute horrible post! Im all for a bit of banter but racism has no place in that!

May be the comments should be "left" for people to see them and make their own mind about them... Cheers

Haha there's more than one big mouthed muppet out there. Hutt Boy won't be back though.

settle down you two no need to get pesonal

I did when we played you at wakefield old fella, when you were abusing our players I gave you some back.

I dont remember anyone calling me muppet on the day, but hey i am an old fella.

anyway this is way off subject move on!!!

has anybody heard if the olympic coach has been punished for going to th newspaper for a cry about the officials yet????

Barry Lewis is a sexy Greek god and was within his rights to protect his chisiled good looks.

What say there was a defender on the line and the ball was flying towards his face � but then another defender did a flying parry and turned the ball around the post?

Well, you could argue it, but you'd be silly to. The referee can only make decision on what actually happens on the field, not on what may have happened after a certain action. How can the referee know if the player in question wouldn't have moved his head from the path of the ball if the ball hadn't struck his hand (if self-preservation was really the paramount issue for him)? Or that it wouldn't have glanced off the face and gone in anyway?

The referee's decisions can only be guided by what actually happens on the field - and when in this instance the ref sees hands go up, he won't think self-preservation, he'll think deliberate handball.

I don't see the point in leaving such posts on here - the consensus here is that it was entirely inappropriate, and there is no need to keep giving it attention that it clearly does not deserve.