CF Governance

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almost 12 years ago
horseshead21 wrote:

IMO Linney is not a great linesman let alone a referee. Thinks he's pritty important in the scheme of the game, which is not the case. The game is about the players not the officials. Who got sent off?

What a load of shit. 

Fuck this stupid game

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almost 12 years ago

Apparently appointments were done before last Monday's Chatham Cup game. So probably a coincidence that he reffed PL instead.

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almost 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
patrick478 wrote:

All players have agreed to the NZF Code of Conduct by playing, which states, among other things, that they agree to:

  • Respect the rights, dignity and worth of others.
  • Refrain from any form of abuse towards others. 
  • Refrain from using any obscene language. 
  • Never argue with or verbally abuse an official; observe the Laws of the Game. 
  • Conduct themselves in a sportsman-like manner and respect fellow players, coaches, managers and referees and the achievement of opponents.

If a player tells a ref that they are "fucking blind" then they deserve whatever punishment they get. 


When/how have they agreed to it? 


i can't speak for other clubs but the standard transfer form in the AFF region has a "i agree to abide by reg 7 clause" and it's a mandatory box on our online registration form as well.
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almost 12 years ago

also minimum ban for a player (or official) if the referee decides to dismiss them for serious abuse of a match official is 4 weeks as per reg 7 - otherwise known in Auckland as an R14.. 

The issue is that while the rule is designed to get rid of the worst of the abuse of referee's - since the ref him (or her) self gets to decide what is and isn't serious abuse sometimes what would normally just be a yellow card for dissent is sent off and given a four week holiday.



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Doc
almost 12 years ago

Ultimately the dicsiplinary system is set up around the referee's report being sacrosant.

In the absence of video/audio evidence, this is how it has to be. The system will fall over otherwise.

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sthn.jeff
almost 12 years ago

Olympic Player sent off in Cap 2 match after giving the ref a spray after the final whistle in a 5-4 loss to Upper Hutt.  A curious penalty given to Upper Hutt fairly late on, but evened up a curious one given to Olympic a little earlier.


I hope the dumbass enjoys his four weeks off. 

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almost 12 years ago

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

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almost 12 years ago

sthn.jeff wrote:

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

Yes

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almost 12 years ago

Feverish wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

Yes

LOL

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Nippy23
almost 12 years ago

That's a bit dirty. The ref putting the card in for a friendly. It was either something really bad or the ref is a precious prick

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 12 years ago

Feverish wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

Yes

Ridiculous

Normo's coming home

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Smithy
almost 12 years ago

sthn.jeff wrote:

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

Non competition game is still played under FiFa rules when officiated by an Official. If no sanctions, more Nix players would be injured pre season to build little ego's. 

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almost 12 years ago

Blew.2 wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

Non competition game is still played under FiFa rules when officiated by an Official. If no sanctions, more Nix players would be injured pre season to build little ego's. 

Yeah but do Phoenix players get banned for A-League matches if they get sent off against the capital football selection?  Of course not

Normo's coming home

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Smithy
almost 12 years ago

james dean wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

Non competition game is still played under FiFa rules when officiated by an Official. If no sanctions, more Nix players would be injured pre season to build little ego's. 

Yeah but do Phoenix players get banned for A-League matches if they get sent off against the capital football selection?  Of course not

I have not seen any sent. But I have seen them chopped down by little ego's. But if one was sent I would say he would be stood down from a local non competition game. 

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almost 12 years ago

Blew.2 wrote:

james dean wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

Non competition game is still played under FiFa rules when officiated by an Official. If no sanctions, more Nix players would be injured pre season to build little ego's. 

Yeah but do Phoenix players get banned for A-League matches if they get sent off against the capital football selection?  Of course not

I have not seen any sent. But I have seen them chopped down by little ego's. But if one was sent I would say he would be stood down from a local non competition game. 

dreaming

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almost 12 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

That's a bit dirty. The ref putting the card in for a friendly. It was either something really bad or the ref is a precious prick

Ahh - our blame culture. How I do love it. The ref does a favour to the Phoenix and Capital football - gets a potential mouthful of abuse (maybe, have we got the facts). And because it is just a friendly, he should deal with it. 

Bollocks - you have to stop the abuse at all levels, good on the ref for not accepting it

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2ndBestNapier PhoenixNippy23ol'sole+7
almost 12 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

james dean wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

I see Harry Edge has been given four weeks four abusive Language at Referee. Was this from the Nix friendly?

Non competition game is still played under FiFa rules when officiated by an Official. If no sanctions, more Nix players would be injured pre season to build little ego's. 

Yeah but do Phoenix players get banned for A-League matches if they get sent off against the capital football selection?  Of course not

I have not seen any sent. But I have seen them chopped down by little ego's. But if one was sent I would say he would be stood down from a local non competition game. 

dreaming

Ernie suggested they make their team back to 11 - Ref says no - Ernie pulls a player to make it 10 v 10. Dreaming!

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Yakcall
almost 12 years ago

Didn't Manny and co all get banned after fighting in pre-season against Jets a year or two back?

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almost 12 years ago

energy24.7 wrote:

Didn't Manny and co all get banned after fighting in pre-season against Jets a year or two back?

Yup

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

getting banned for doing something during a friendly just shows your stupidity. Nothing unfair about it at all. 


Allegedly

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almost 12 years ago

thelastnomad wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

That's a bit dirty. The ref putting the card in for a friendly. It was either something really bad or the ref is a precious prick

Ahh - our blame culture. How I do love it. The ref does a favour to the Phoenix and Capital football - gets a potential mouthful of abuse (maybe, have we got the facts). And because it is just a friendly, he should deal with it. 

Bollocks - you have to stop the abuse at all levels, good on the ref for not accepting it

While only a "friendly" it was hardly a kick around after training. 

Why should a referee put up with a spray from a precious prick?  Players (or coaches) don.t get sent off for a "for fucks sake ref", it is either constant barrage or something worse said. 

He had just come back from a suspension (for a second yellow) and Daddy is only 2 or 3 games into a 10 game ban. It is hardly a surprise to anyone that clamping down on this has been a priority for Cap Footy this year. If he and others can not figure that out and learn to deal with it, I hope they enjoy the time on the sideline.

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almost 12 years ago

In my experience there is nothing that could be called a "friendly" these days.

A "non-competition" game, yes.

If deserved, good on the referee for taking the line he did regardless of the status of the game.

Don't piss off old people - the older we get, the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent                    

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

Many moon’s ago, there were 2 “teams” having a kick a round on a dirt patch in wainuiomata and a “ref” just happened to be driving past, he stopped and asked if they wanted him to participated in the ”kick a round”.

The offer was accepted, but there was a punch up and the “ref”put in a “report”.
It was later found the player concerned was registered with a club and he was given a suspension.

The club even went as far as to protest to head office who declined their protest.

Five years later, Head office via its lawyers, ruled that if a player is sent from the field in a tournament then the suspension is for the tournament and does not carry over to the league, unless it is for violent conduct against a referee.

Capital Soccer v John Murphy, sent off in the Hilton Petone Cup.
For many years all suspensions from the previous season could be worked off in the Hilton Petone, however any red cards in the Hilton Petone carried over to the leagues including the National league. (all clubs including Miramar had agreed to the deal for who knows how long)

Miramar protested and the verdict came back, that if the red card happened in a league match then the holiday was to be served in a league and or Chatham Cup. If the red card was not issured in a league then the suspension does not get served in a league

The way I see Reg 7 penalties being dished is starting to look like it was in the 80’s, who are you?, and what fed are you with?.

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dairyflat
over 11 years ago

@CapFootball -

"The Chairman of the Capital Football Board has moved on after 8 years of fantastic service to the game.
Announcement:http://goo.gl/gzpwKz  "

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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over 11 years ago

interesting.

good sportsmanship and fair playing field is all we ask for

but all we get is talk and goal posts moving

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over 11 years ago

Whatever you reckon about Chris and stuff and things you cannot, not one bit, fault 8 years of volunteer service.

Chris and I have certainly had our difference, but kudos to that man.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 11 years ago

Canton certainly has been unpopular on various YF forums which raises the question as to why Clubs are not able to vote for Board members.

If they were answerable to the Clubs this would make them think twice about introducing retrospective regulations as happened with the Division One debacle.

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over 11 years ago

Smithy wrote:

Whatever you reckon about Chris and stuff and things you cannot, not one bit, fault 8 years of volunteer service.

Chris and I have certainly had our difference, but kudos to that man.

yep I said the same thing surprisingly. Even though I thought the Cap1 thing was the worst decision on the planet - respect to any volunteer.

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over 11 years ago

whatever wrote:

Canton certainly has been unpopular on various YF forums which raises the question as to why Clubs are not able to vote for Board members.

If they were answerable to the Clubs this would make them think twice about introducing retrospective regulations as happened with the Division One debacle.

Under the new rules coming, as directed by FIFA, it seems that you will get your wish in the near future.

Don't piss off old people - the older we get, the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent                    

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

whatever wrote:

Canton certainly has been unpopular on various YF forums which raises the question as to why Clubs are not able to vote for Board members.

If they were answerable to the Clubs this would make them think twice about introducing retrospective regulations as happened with the Division One debacle.

 

Not sure what planet your federation is on, but recently Capital Football had two (I think) vacancies for elected board members. Clubs put forwards a total of ZERO nominees for those positions.

That's right. ZERO. That's less than one in case you're following at home.

In that context it is impossible to say that the clubs are disenfranchised. Disinterested  Uninterested more like.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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terminator_x
over 11 years ago

Uninterested Smithy. Not disinterested. That means "neutral".

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over 11 years ago

Dictatorships have trouble getting heads to chop off. 

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over 11 years ago

Smithy wrote:

whatever wrote:

Canton certainly has been unpopular on various YF forums which raises the question as to why Clubs are not able to vote for Board members.

If they were answerable to the Clubs this would make them think twice about introducing retrospective regulations as happened with the Division One debacle.

 

Not sure what planet your federation is on, but recently Capital Football had two (I think) vacancies for elected board members. Clubs put forwards a total of ZERO nominees for those positions.

That's right. ZERO. That's less than one in case you're following at home.

In that context it is impossible to say that the clubs are disenfranchised. Disinterested more like.

Is this because some people feel the other members they would be joining are not elected and have the majority so therefore whats the point if you cannot make a difference and would be associated with any decisions made even if you knew they were wrong decisions.

as for volunteers will there are lots of different types and some are not any more than ego stroking me me types and they do no real good as they are only there to improve there own status or agenda.

usually the real good types of volunteers hide from the spotlight and just get things done with no trumpet blowing and agenda's involved.

but they usually don't like the first type as above and will leave/resign from committees and say nothing and will not offer to go back as they cannot be bothered with the ego's.

The actions and records of what has happened on boards/committee's  should be a good indicator of what type you have.

i am keen to see the books this coming AGM as there were some questions from the last AGM and books that were brushed over and this year we should see if things add up and align with last years final statements.

good sportsmanship and fair playing field is all we ask for

but all we get is talk and goal posts moving

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Blew.2Frhewh
over 11 years ago

Loftus Road wrote:

Uninterested Smithy. Not disinterested. That means "neutral".

 

Well you learn something new every day. Thanks. I stand corrected!

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 11 years ago

When is the upcoming AGM?

Oh Wellington is wonderful. We got the wind, the rain and the phoenix. Oh Wellington is wonderful.
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over 11 years ago

Not exactly on this topic, but close enough. Interesting story about a lad

from Wgtn footy who has hit the big time.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/canvas-magazine/news/article.cfm?c_id=532&objectid=11322035

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over 11 years ago

Capital Football Board appoints new Chair

16 September 2014

The Capital Football Board is pleased to announce that Paul Houliston has been appointed as the new Chairman, taking over from Chris Canton who resigned earlier in the month.

Paul, who has served on the Capital Football Board for the past 18 months, carries an appreciation of the needs in the football community, having held a number of roles within the regional sporting environment as well as a 10-year involvement with Waterside Karori which has involved playing, coaching and serving on the junior committee.

Outside of football, Paul is a Director and co-owner of Allen + Clarke, a local, well-established public policy and evaluation consulting firm. Paul also brings experience from previous roles with the Treasury, Department of Internal Affairs and the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet, following a career in the Royal New Zealand Navy.

Paul said “I look forward to continuing the good work of the Capital Football team and supporting all our stakeholders including players, clubs, community groups, local authorities and funders to make football an enjoyable game to play in our region” .

Phil Barry will continue in his role as Deputy Chair.

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over 11 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Capital Football Board appoints new Chair

16 September 2014

The Capital Football Board is pleased to announce that Paul Houliston has been appointed as the new Chairman, taking over from Chris Canton who resigned earlier in the month.

Paul, who has served on the Capital Football Board for the past 18 months, carries an appreciation of the needs in the football community, having held a number of roles within the regional sporting environment as well as a 10-year involvement with Waterside Karori which has involved playing, coaching and serving on the junior committee.

Outside of football, Paul is a Director and co-owner of Allen + Clarke, a local, well-established public policy and evaluation consulting firm. Paul also brings experience from previous roles with the Treasury, Department of Internal Affairs and the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet, following a career in the Royal New Zealand Navy.

Paul said “I look forward to continuing the good work of the Capital Football team and supporting all our stakeholders including players, clubs, community groups, local authorities and funders to make football an enjoyable game to play in our region” .

Phil Barry will continue in his role as Deputy Chair.

let's hope he is not paralysed by any previous at CF and gets a far crack at the job to bring things back to a situation where people will be happy to be nominated to serve on the board again.

he sounds like he has the experience so i hope he gets good support and is able to make the right changes.

good sportsmanship and fair playing field is all we ask for

but all we get is talk and goal posts moving

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about 11 years ago

once again the CF Board make a clueless decision...

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