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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree that we need a central league but the teams outside Wellington need to be competitive. There is no point having to travel to New Plymouth and winning 4 or 5 nil. The teams need to be good enough, not just from the right city to give a balance. Its great to see "Gizzy" and Napier competing but Taranaki, Palmy North just arent up to the level of CL on a regular basis. OK, so TT beat Petone in the play-offs but having seen both games, Petone were far the better team both times. They were denied a certain goal in the away game that would have made it 2-0 and missed some chances at home that they normally would have taken.
I say keep CL but the non-Wellington teams really need to step up to the plate.
Great 9-0 win for Petone this weekend. Stick and Manny with hat-tricks, John Mac, Mike G and an OG rounding off the scoring. Big game this weekend away against a Wairarapa side still in the Chatham Cup after a extra time winner against Palmy North End. Im picking Petone 2-1 and to clinche the league with 4 games to play.

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Who will win this Saturday - Wairarapa or Petone??
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
a 9-0 thrashing won't do anything for LH Reserves confidence but it was bound to happen sooner or later. even when i've ventured out for them at the ripe old age of 24, i've been 6,7 sometimes 8 years older than the guys around me. I started playing with the Wests 1st team in the 2000 version of the Capital Premier League as an 18 year old.......some of these kids weren't even using full size footballs yet....tis a learning curve for a lot of the "kids" in that team, in the longrun they'll be better for it. If they can stay up and not get relegated it'll be an achievement in itself seeing they won promotion by....beating.....marist......who our 1st team LOST to! whats wrong here! f**K!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Petone by 4.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i must say though that the lh reserves team looks a lot different than what it did last year in Capital 1 :/
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Petone by 4.
Only 4?

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think  Wairarapa will sneak it 2-1 .
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Petone 2-0
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
WAIRARAPA TIMES-AGE (GARY CAFFELL)
 
Wairarapa United's golden run in the Chatham Cup isn't being allowed to deflect disappointment from their failure to be a serious challenger for the Capital Soccer premier division title this season.

And it's that disappointment which should see Wairarapa United produce a top-notch performance in their premier division match with Petone at the Pugh Sports Bowl tomorrow.

For Wairarapa United this is now their best chance to make a decent statement on that competition as, while they sit in third equal place on the points table with a game in hand, Petone already have the title in the bag, having not tasted defeat in their 11 games and being all of eight points clear of their nearest rivals, Waterside Karori.

Wairarapa United manager Phil Keinzley is adamant that if his side plays to their potential they are capable of ending Petone's unbeaten record.

"What's frustrating to us is that we have as good a side as any in the league but our results don't show it," Keinzley said. "We lost a couple of games we shouldn't have and that's come back to haunt us now."

Keinzley sees the scheduling of tomorrow's fixture being ideal for Wairarapa United in that it comes just eight days before their Chatham Cup last 16 match with holders Western Suburbs.

To have any prospect of victory in that game they would need to play "out of their skins" and a win over Petone would assist in that respect.

"Anything that boosts confidence has to be a positive thing, and beating Petone would certainly do that," Keinzley said.

Whether Wairarapa United will be at full strength for tomorrow's match probably won't be confirmed until the eleventh hour.

With the Chatham Cup in mind they will not risk players who are carrying injuries, and that meant star forward Pita Rabo still had the "doubtful starter" tag over him at the time these notes were penned. He has been troubled by a sore knee for some weeks and will only play if the medics give him the OK.

Keinzley admits Rabo's ability to turn half-chances into goals would be missed but he is confident that if he does not play fellow Fijian Lai Gataurua will do a good job in his place.

"He (Gataurua) probably has more natural flair than anyone in our squad and that makes him a very difficult player to mark," Keinzley said. "He always adds something to the attack when he comes off the reserve bench so we don't really have any worries about him getting a start."

One area where Wairarapa United seems sure to trouble Petone is in the midfield where Mireck Tvaroh and Guiseppe Cugliari have consistently been top performers all season. They are both no-nonsense types who go in hard on the tackle and they are certain to place the heat on the Petone forwards.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Petone win 2-1 and go 11 points clear with 6 games to play. 7 more points and the league is won. Good luck boys.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Roy Clark playing for Lower Hutt Reserves, what a joke.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
Roy Clark playing for Lower Hutt Reserves, what a joke.
 
I thought he would start for Hutt tomorrow? He played 90 min today though I think.
 
There should be more limits on teams stacking their second teams I think.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You should be picked for one team or another each weekend, it really cheapens the Premier League

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The League is over.

lEvery team except Petone should start thinking about next season because it is all over this year.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
You should be picked for one team or another each weekend, it really cheapens the Premier League


I was going to buy you a beer this arvo, but you lot bailed pretty rapidly.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Had the pleasure of watching the Wairarapa/ Petone game today and also the pleasure of watching a young player from Petone by the name of Michael Pickering weave his magic on the field, only seventeen, has this guy got the goods, maybe he should have put one away late in the game, and didn't but this guy is class !!!!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
You should be picked for one team or another each weekend, it really cheapens the Premier League
 
what potentially cheapens the league is title challenging teams not being able to handle good players like roy clark.  especially when he is surrounded by kids.  granted, he is a top quality player, but this is only a grade below what he normally plays.  perhaps not being able to control him actually defines the league...
Da Selekta2007-06-23 22:12:36

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Had the pleasure of watching the Wairarapa/ Petone game today and also the pleasure of watching a young player from Petone by the name of Michael Pickering weave his magic on the field, only seventeen, has this guy got the goods, maybe he should have put one away late in the game, and didn't but this guy is class !!!!!
Yeah, Little Picks is a class player. I can see a future for him at a much higher level. Hopefully he'll finish school playing for Petone and then more than likely head overseas. Unless the Nix pick him up as an U20 next season.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Da Selekta wrote:
james dean wrote:
You should be picked for one team or another each weekend, it really cheapens the Premier League
 
what potentially cheapens the league is title challenging teams not being able to handle good players like roy clark.  especially when he is surrounded by kids.  granted, he is a top quality player, but this is only a grade below what he normally plays.  perhaps not being able to control him actually defines the league...
 
But thats the point, he plays in a higher grade for a reason.  Because Central League games are often on different days to Premier, it changes the whole dynamic of the league when players pop up from nowhere to play reserves on a Saturday and then have a day to recover to play again on a Sunday.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
james dean wrote:
You should be picked for one team or another each weekend, it really cheapens the Premier League


I was going to buy you a beer this arvo, but you lot bailed pretty rapidly.
 
Haha, most of us had to get back for a 21st...but the 6-2 revers didn't help!!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Da Selekta wrote:
james dean wrote:
You should be picked for one team or another each weekend, it really cheapens the Premier League
 
what potentially cheapens the league is title challenging teams not being able to handle good players like roy clark.  especially when he is surrounded by kids.  granted, he is a top quality player, but this is only a grade below what he normally plays.  perhaps not being able to control him actually defines the league...
 
So are you saying that a coach cant drop a player. Did he start on Sunday?

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I say fair play to any player who can play Premier League on a Saturday, and Central League on a Sunday.
 
What is wrong is when a club stack a second team with first team players, when the firsts have nothing to play for, and the seconds are in the hunt for a title, or trying to avoid relegation.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
the issue arises because of the Sunday/Friday night games these days.
I don't really think it's fair on a team like Upper Hutt - who may get relegated due to a reserve team's ability to play their club's best three players in key games. It makes a mockery of the league. One weekend, one game.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Very sporting of you taking up this crusade in the interests of Upper Hutt Feverish.
 
I hope you havent been losing too much sleep about the injustice of Upper Hut's plight. Obviously, Roy Clark's hat-trick against Wharfies was the final straw.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
when have LHCAFC dropped their 3 best players into the 2nds? I know Roy played this weekend but if u cast your mind back how many players did Wests drop to play Nth Wgtn in the promo/relegation game a few years back and compare that to when LHCAFC played Wgtn Marist at the end of last season......

and if it wasnt roy banging in 3....it wudve been me.....hahahahahahaha
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Marius Lakatush wrote:
Very sporting of you taking up this crusade in the interests of Upper Hutt Feverish.
 
 
 I could have used Brooklyn as an "example" Marius - but there is no saving them!
 
Oh and course you would have Barber!
Feverish2007-06-25 14:08:53

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
im tellin ya if it wasn't for this ankle injury (at the hands......or feet of some dirty UH b#$#ard) i'd still be playin an not be out for the season - thus bangin in the 3 goals and resting roy for the big game vs Napier.....savvy? hahahaha
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 How a team can lose 9-0 one week then win 3-0 the following  should be a concern for Capital Soccer, WHAT ARE THEY ON !!!!!!!   OR WHAT  DRUGS  ARE YOU ON  LOWER HUTT RESERVES.Did Wharfies have 11 players ????????
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 WHAT  DRUGS  ARE YOU ON  LOWER HUTT RESERVES.
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well for a start Lower Hutt had a recognised keeper vs wharfies rather than a out feild third teamer in goal vs petone, I was at both games and it was all  in the defence, there one week not there another then there again. As for saying one game per wknd, think of all  the young players that play for one team and sit on the bench for another higher grade team, should that be wrong??  I dont think so..
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

But Roy Clark is not a young player who sits on the bench for the 1sts. Clarke and Madden were the difference on Saturday (and perhaps some horrific Wharfies finishing), without those 2 Wharfies would have steamrolled them

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
well, that is true, roy aint young,
As for madden he does not get regular game time for the 1sts,(prob played more for the seconds)  i do not see anything wrong with it. if wharfies cant contain only two supposed CL players how do they think they will go in the CL, (if they ever get there) most if not all clubs have done this in the past and will prob do it in the future, Not really an issue to me.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
if wharfies cant contain only two supposed CL players how do they think they will go in the CL
 
It's not all about measuring how you'd go in the CL, winning the Premier League is an achievement in itself

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Perhaps Petone just played a lot better than Wharfies, and perhaps Lower Hutt played a lot better last weekend compared to the weekend before.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

roy clark was dropped to the reserves, he did not start for the first team v napier. he was tnot the difference anyway, yes he cooly took his 3 chances well, but the hutt were the better team, it was their defence and having a proper keeper this week that won them the game.

sour grapes wharfies, hutt took 6 points from you this season, for a club who were one of the better ones around 5ish years ago!! what happened!!! deservedly beaten by a bunch of under 18 yr olds and a few oldheads thrown in!
 
petone are class and will win promotion easily, there defence is as strong as most cl teams. barclay and lane are tough, uncomprimising defenders and are aerial weapons going forward, good luck to my hutt valley brothers!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
They couldn't play any worse gainst Wharfies, any team in a Premier League losing by 9 goals makes this league look so weak, and they are not even bottom. Will be interesting to see Lower Hutt's next result when the 1st team is on at the same time. Losing by 9 is a disgrace at this level
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
even the best have off days mate! look at the premiership teams lose by 6-7 away then turn around and win the next week. its football buddy!they had no goalkeeper that day, had to use a defender from their capital 3 side! yes 9-0 is embarrassing but petone put the youngsters to the sword in the second half, and the youth lost heart and looked as though they threw the towel in! i think the result v wharfies showed they deserve to be in this league and are capable of beating anyone in that league barring maybe petone.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I Cant beleave how much is beeing made of lower hutt 2nds Beating Waterside on the weekend.
Roy Clark was lajitamently dropped from the 1st team after under performing for them.
Naturally you go from there into the second team which is what happened on saturday.
Other than Roy and Micheal Madden who has played more games for the 2nds than 1sts were the only changes from the same kids team who schooled them in the 1st round.
They are by no means a discrace to that league even after the lesson that was given to them by petone. Petone have the potential to do that to any team in that league that catches them on a day like that especially when they have afew senior players missing through injury and an out field player playing in goal.
I think youll find that waterside wont be the only team to be turned over by them before this season is over.
 
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

easty17 is correct hu cares if ppl r havn a cry if a few 1st team players come down that happens its what seperates the bigger clubs frm the bunnies wharfies just got smoked by the youngsters twice this season they might get beat 9-0 a loss is a loss it doesnt matter is its 1-0 in the last min or 9-0 what matters is you come back next week and win! go the youngblood

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Roy Clark back in the 1st team now,as he is back in form .Ask any coach if a 9-0 thrashing does not matter. 9-0 is not a loss, it's a thrashing of the highest order. Most coaches are usually seen at the bar after the match  shouting drinks after a 9-0 close defeat, yeah right.
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