Hey guys. Just want your opinion/thoughts on attending football games JUST to put forward your political beliefs? To me it’s absolute nonsense and I think it should be banned. I have some screenshots I took - unreal how they’re using AFC to try benefit their beliefs. Pretty sure political flags are illegal in the A league aren’t they? Not once have these people talked about the actual football. In fact they talk anything but.. Anyway, photos attached. Thoughts on this group?
Fan groups don't need permission to exist nor do they need a direct relationship with the club. I don't think its a huge deal and I'd really hope there's no one giving them any grief at games (and that goes both ways of course).
At the same time I also don't think it'll last more than a season or two.
I've hidden that post as it is reveals people's names
Can I put it back if I cross names out?
It's a private group on Facebook, what are you doing in it if you don't like them. Not your job to monitor what they do, leave it to the league/AFC to handle. A fan group doesn't have to be aligned to management to exist, and it won't be the first time groups like this latch onto something bigger to voice their thoughts or political leanings.
I don't honestly see what you are even worried about.
brbrookemBullionHalf a PintJazzy Jeff+3Nelfoos, Noah4thenix, SamCoughlan
over 1 year ago
Yakcall
The Port Soldier
Yakcall
I've hidden that post as it is reveals people's names
Can I put it back if I cross names out?
Its a private group on Facebook, what are you doing in it if you don't like them. Not your job to monitor what they do, leave it to the league/AFC to handle. A group doesn't have to be aligned to management to exist and it won't be the first time groups like this latch onto something bigger to voice their agenda.
I don't honestly see what you are even worried about.
I’m just wanting a discussion of whether or not football fans agree with this stuff or not. I’m not worried about it lol
I've hidden that post as it is reveals people's names
Can I put it back if I cross names out?
It's a private group on Facebook, what are you doing in it if you don't like them. Not your job to monitor what they do, leave it to the league/AFC to handle. A fan group doesn't have to be aligned to management to exist, and it won't be the first time groups like this latch onto something bigger to voice their thoughts or political leanings.
I don't honestly see what you are even worried about.
I've hidden that post as it is reveals people's names
Can I put it back if I cross names out?
It's a private group on Facebook, what are you doing in it if you don't like them. Not your job to monitor what they do, leave it to the league/AFC to handle. A fan group doesn't have to be aligned to management to exist, and it won't be the first time groups like this latch onto something bigger to voice their thoughts or political leanings.
I don't honestly see what you are even worried about.
You seem like you’d be the life of the party
Mate, you are on our forum talking shark to me... We are extending a courtesy here with your posting. I've hidden your post with the pictures again because you haven't hidden the names at all, and you are outing a forum member's real name.
brbrookemBullionLGmjmjp2+5newzealandpower, Noah4thenix, Oi Oi Edgecumbe, SamCoughlan, YoungHeartHM
over 1 year ago
The Port Soldier
Yakcall
The Port Soldier
Yakcall
I've hidden that post as it is reveals people's names
Can I put it back if I cross names out?
It's a private group on Facebook, what are you doing in it if you don't like them. Not your job to monitor what they do, leave it to the league/AFC to handle. A fan group doesn't have to be aligned to management to exist, and it won't be the first time groups like this latch onto something bigger to voice their thoughts or political leanings.
I don't honestly see what you are even worried about.
You seem like you’d be the life of the party
why make it personal, if you're genuinely interested in our opinion on something ask the question without disclosing other people's names.
Port Soldier go back earlier into this thread for a cursory read. The issue has been debated to death on here prior.
If you want a fresh debate about it, suggest you do it in the Port FB group.
Edit - sports jock Riccardo Ball is part of The Port? He's certainly a fan boy of Auckland FC. He's also very to the left. Go have a chat to him if The Port (though it sounds like it's more just you) have any concerns about Tamaki AFC.
My banning fingers are getting twitchy. You've been asked to edit the post, if you continue to break the forum rules the post will be deleted and you will get a holiday.
Well, I guess I see what happened now. Edited to correct the record: more than one creep have joined our Facebook group (despite screening) to cause trouble, and one seems to have taken screenshots of everything that he found here - and decided to publish them here to... I don't know, try to get YF support for the concept that peaceable fan groups that he doesn't like the thrust of should be banned?! Talk about an inability to mind one's own business.
T-AFC has good relationships with Manukau United, a club which has a very strong left-wing pedigree (through the Fowler family) and holds community events for the refugee and Palestinian communities, so anyone in Auckland who think that politics should be banned from football knows nothing. Admittedly our group is small, but we've had to become very suspicious as to who we let into our group because of fudgewittery like this. I'll happily reproduce what I wrote to another guy who came to hassle us: ===
I wasn't one of those who started this group. In fact, I had no interest in supporting AFC at all to begin with. Partly because I don't like or trust Bill Foley, Ali Williams or the creepy Mowbrays. Partly because I've been Yellow Fever for a long time and - while rivalry, banter and trolling are all good - the honestly nasty anti-Nix tone of many AFC fans turned me off.
But when the comrades started this group, I went out and bought a season ticket. Why? Because I knew it was something good and something I wanted to support. Bought the shirt, helped pay for the flag. It's something I've wanted to see for a long time, and if there's one thing we learn on the Left, it's that if you don't actively support something, it vanishes.
So this little group of commos is attracting real financial support to our new club who would not touch it otherwise. We are keen to *increase* that support, though we might not be very good at it yet. So: why would those such as yourself be so hostile and keen to derail it?
Perhaps many of you just tend to the Right and it irks you to have out-and-proud Lefties at the game. Well, we can't do anything about that; don't start no trouble, won't be no trouble. A David Seymour Brigade on the other side of the stadium would at least be funny.
But there's something else going on here, I think. And that's the Great Kiwi Clobbering Machine - a kneejerk hostility to *anything* that happens that's not mainstream, that happens outside accepted channels. That whole conformist, "why can't you just do what everybody else does" attitude - just not being able to leave something alone which isn't hurting you, but you don't like or even don't understand. The kind of thing that makes cars swerve to scare cyclists. Well, our reaction to that is: WE WILL INCREASE THE FUDGING THING.
We've had a lot of crap dumped on this venture - much of it much less polite than your contribution - but surely you understand that, if our venture fails, interventions such as yours will make us much less likely to want to join the mainstream active support? This looks like what the pick-up artists call "negging", and it's never worked on me.
We dearly want friendly relations with The Port and other AFC fans, but if we were ever wondering whether what we're doing here is worthwhile, the hostility coming from such as yourself is evidence that it is. Hope to see you all in the South Stand come game time. Particularly looking forward to cheering for Alex Paulsen again.
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009 This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
AucklandPhoenixbrbrookemBullionclaytonn+5Friar Tuck, mjp2, Nelfoos, Oi Oi Edgecumbe, SamCoughlan
over 1 year ago
Hard News
It's come to this. I've had to pop in.
My banning fingers are getting twitchy. You've been asked to edit the post, if you continue to break the forum rules the post will be deleted and you will get a holiday.
EOM. EOD.
Holy shark you have done it know you have woken HN up.
AucklandPhoenixBuffon IIBullionclaytonn+14Feverish, LG, maynardf, mjp2, mrsmiis, Nelfoos, newzealandpower, Ninja, Oi Oi Edgecumbe, paige478, SamCoughlan, Tegal, theprof, YoungHeartHM
over 1 year ago
I would also like to add that despite what FIFA would have you think. Like it or not, football always has been and always will be political. Everything with that level of global reach is political in one way or another that's just a fact of life.
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Come have a chat to the team, grab some CalciYum milk supplied by Anchor and get your tickets for our home opener on October 19th against Brisbane Roar!
I've hidden that post as it is reveals people's names
Can I put it back if I cross names out?
Its a private group on Facebook, what are you doing in it if you don't like them. Not your job to monitor what they do, leave it to the league/AFC to handle. A group doesn't have to be aligned to management to exist and it won't be the first time groups like this latch onto something bigger to voice their agenda.
I don't honestly see what you are even worried about.
I’m just wanting a discussion of whether or not football fans agree with this stuff or not. I’m not worried about it lol
How’s your forum coming along?
The Fever is made up of a lot of folk, though maybe they wouldn’t claim it themselves, who have a lot of mana in the game. They give up their time to referee or work in their local clubs. They’ve been active in the Fever for almost 20 years, doing podcasts, organising tifos, organising fan events, liasing with the club, and making sure everyone is having a good time. When they have an opinion the rest of us shut up and listen because of that.
I haven’t heard from anyone in the Port I’d respect that way (okay Chopah, but he’s not leading, just attending.). You guys need to work on that side of thing. Raise your representation game. You’re the face of AFC fans.
Anything less offensive than a Western United shirt with Rudan on the back- is that really bothering your enjoyment of the football that much? I’m sure if there’s anything needing sorting out it will be. You’ve got plenty of work to do on your own stuff, before worrying too much about anyone else.
I've hidden that post as it is reveals people's names
Can I put it back if I cross names out?
It's a private group on Facebook, what are you doing in it if you don't like them. Not your job to monitor what they do, leave it to the league/AFC to handle. A fan group doesn't have to be aligned to management to exist, and it won't be the first time groups like this latch onto something bigger to voice their thoughts or political leanings.
I don't honestly see what you are even worried about.
You seem like you’d be the life of the party
Seems like you're the one trying to police how people party at the football
I've hidden that post as it is reveals people's names
Can I put it back if I cross names out?
It's a private group on Facebook, what are you doing in it if you don't like them. Not your job to monitor what they do, leave it to the league/AFC to handle. A fan group doesn't have to be aligned to management to exist, and it won't be the first time groups like this latch onto something bigger to voice their thoughts or political leanings.
I don't honestly see what you are even worried about.
You seem like you’d be the life of the party
Seems like your the one trying to police how people party at the football
Personally I believe the only way to party at the football is to ask for a D and an I, followed by an S.C.O.
Seems to me that it’s well time the supporters of AFC started up their own site similar to the Yellow Fever. This site is probably the best football site I have interacted with. Hats off to the people who set it up and run it. Until the AFC fans do this there will be a vacuum which will be unsuccessfully filled by various factions on Facebook etc. The AFC page here is 100% for Nix supporters to comment on AFC matters. It’s NOT really here for AFC fans, apart from supplying info that might be of interest to Nix supporters. Get you own site!
coochieeDolorasJazzy Jeffmjmjp2+2Oi Oi Edgecumbe, Trent
over 1 year ago
MetalLegNZ
This site should come with a warning label.
Negatively impacts work productivity and family life balance.
Up the NIX
Its honestly pretty special. I'm based overseas now and I've been snooping around the forums of teams over my way, ones for fans of clubs that are 5 times as old with probably 5 times the money - and invariably all of their forums have nowhere near as much activity as ours does.
It's a pretty fudgeing cool little community that we've all collectively cultivated on here over the last 17 years.
ananaveragestemballanebrbrookemBullion+17claytonn, djtim3000, Doloras, dunnix, Friar Tuck, InsulinMachine, LG, martinb, mjp2, mrsmiis, Ninja, Noah4thenix, Oi Oi Edgecumbe, SamCoughlan, theprof, Trent, YoungHeartHM
over 1 year ago
Yep, been here since day one. This forum and Nix community is pretty special.
I have English roots, and when people overseas ask me what football team I support, and I say the the "Wellington Phoenix", there's almost a look of confusion every single time.
There's no club that I feel connected to like the Nix. Been here since day one back in 2007 with the likes of Daniel, Smeltz, Felipe, etc. Will continue to be a Nix fan for life.
I actually remember I was travelling in Estonia about 5 years ago and put the Nix match on in a random pub, watching with a bunch of Estonians.
I see afc got a solid pumping 3-1 against Melbourne city. Honestly would have expected a better showing but I guess it's all a new team.
All attack and no defence from them so far this pre season eh?
It's surprising they leak so many actually, they got a pretty stacked back line. I suspect they don't have the quality in front of the back line and they don't have a decent striker.
Would have been the first outing for their 3 new imports. Also Pijanker's first game if they all played. But yeah agree seems Corica has been having issues with his defensive midfield to now.
But the pre season is a Phoney War, long forgotten once the season starts.
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A clinical performance from the boys today in our second preseason friendly 👏
⚽️ Nabbout, Memeti, Talbot.
🪄 Marco Tilio was on fire with two assists, while Andreas Kuen assisted the opener. pic.twitter.com/7SBdxTuyrv
HN, Welcome back. Haven't seen you for some time. Yourself, & Feverish. Great to see some of the original crew on deck.
About time "The Port" started their own independent Website. If they soley wish to go the FB way, I don't think it will last. If they do get together and create a website in the style of this one and try and leave politics, it might work. But if they have nothing better to do than talk left or right wing politics, they are doomed to fail.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
HN, Welcome back. Haven't seen you for some time. Yourself, & Feverish. Great to see some of the original crew on deck.
About time "The Port" started their own independent Website. If they soley wish to go the FB way, I don't think it will last. If they do get together and create a website in the style of this one and try and leave politics, it might work. But if they have nothing better to do than talk left or right wing politics, they are doomed to fail.
You've said the same thing about fifty times now pal.
HN, Welcome back. Haven't seen you for some time. Yourself, & Feverish. Great to see some of the original crew on deck.
About time "The Port" started their own independent Website. If they soley wish to go the FB way, I don't think it will last. If they do get together and create a website in the style of this one and try and leave politics, it might work. But if they have nothing better to do than talk left or right wing politics, they are doomed to fail.
You've said the same thing about fifty times now pal.
And?
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
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