$40-45 Million Soccer Specific Stadium - Petone Phoenix

All this talk about Westpac Stadium being too expensive for the Nix is nonsense and Gareth & Co know it.

The fact is that the Nix have the best venue deal in the A League.

They pay a very small fixed hire fee plus event costs which amounts to less than $30k per home match.

They have also pocketed "marketing grants" of over $1m in cash from the WCC and the Stadium Trust since Wellnix took over the A league license.

You may well ask were this money has gone because it is clear that it has not been spent on marketing.

So effectively Wellington City via the WCC Event fund and the Stadium Trust has provided the Wellnix with a FREE stadium.

1. You may think E.P is a fuck up J.V but Westpac is on par at least, you have to admit. This on-going debate highlights that. Both venues are only perfect for two events a year and the rest are terrible events for massive stadiums.

Typical outrageous claim - to post count - to join date ratio.

No they're not.  The twunts can't even get "Stand Up" right after 6 seasons.

I agree with that, Westpac was never the right stadium. (Right location, wrong shape)

When it was first proposed I was unsure why they made it round, for what equated to 1-2 cricket games a year at the stadium, when everything else there was played on a rectangle pitch. Size wise, I think they went for what they did as it would accomodate the big events and the small events at the same time. 

I wonder if it had been a rectangular 30,000 seat stadium if this debate would still be had.

Aren't you vaguely interested in hearing another side to the story? Yes, he has a vested interest in it. That doesn't mean he isn't allowed to speak.

Haven't read a lot of this thread but two things:

1. Without being able to confirm 100% as I have only heard whispers, I'm pretty sure the nix got a very good deal at E.P as well.




2. You may think E.P is a fuck up J.V but Westpac is on par at least, you have to admit. This on-going debate highlights that. Both venues are only perfect for two events a year and the rest are terrible events for massive stadiums.

It has run at a profit every year since it opened. One of the few stadiums in the entire southern hemisphere to do that. It did something right. Rightly or wrongly it was built to be multipurpose at a time when having a football team in the city seemed a fanciful notion. Who knows, in 10 years time we may be looking back at this and saying why did they only build a 12,000 seat stadium?

Loss of green space is bollocks.  There is still a huge green space there.

Although the Post site and and that end of Jackson St. always made more sense to me.

the discussion arouind having a multipurpose stadium have been going on since day one - a lot saw Westpac stadium as the end of the Basin - clearly not the case, the current scenario is purely down to the reduction of crowd numbers - for mine this has little to do with the actual stadium, more to do with the poor performaces of the 'canes and lions over the years......not sure it would have been any different if the stadium was rectangular.

Shane Harmon was telling us this the other day. Basically one of the only stadiums not to receive funding since it opened too, all costs and upgrades have come out of their profits. 

It's been said since day 1 they are.  Would take some special orchestrated litany of lies for all involved in the club to have maintained this for 7 years now.

Id be pissed if the club isn't losing money, as that's what they've led us to believe and it their justification for taking home games away. 

They got it right at Eden Park. First time ever. I was horrified.

This got interesting! Especially when people leave their names on their accounts...

http://westpacstadium.co.nz/advertising

What's that going to be when 1 side of the stadium is closed off though..... Most of those would be outside contracts and fixed costs I would expect based on certain variables. You would expect that to be incorporated into the cost of hiring the stadium...

Typical outrageous claim - to post count - to join date ratio.

Using your logic, all your posts should be well reasoned, well written and add to the quality of the overall discussion. Clearly your logic is flawed.

Using your logic, all your posts should be well reasoned, well written and add to the quality of the overall discussion. Clearly your logic is flawed.

Agreed. This is a big site and parking would be no issue. Closer to train and motorway connection and within cooee of Jackson Street. And no residents living near by. Downside, a lot more cost in demolition and groundworks.

O shut up Mr 2891, clearly you don't know what you're talking about. 

Re crowd sizes. Westpac is a terrible place to watch cricket, I'm positive people don't go just because it's there. Also if you add up the costs involved to host cricket westpac vs the basin it's chalk and cheese. The vision was never met for cricket at westpac. I don't know if crowds would be much better at football codes with a rectangle stadium but I'm pretty sure cricket has lost out there. No one would be missing out if AFL stayed on the wrong side of the ditch.

You kids, with your witty banter and your post counts.

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"Staff numbers on event days 400 - 1000."  Now there's a cost!

Does that include that the majority of the food and beverage staff are volunteers fundraising?

Have used the distance from Wellington Station to the Stadium as the radius, and spun a circle centered at the existing stand at PetRec. Marked in Ava and Petone train stations.

And the distance from the centre of the circle/stand to the edge is...

The same as the Wellington Station to Westpac Stadium...(Blue arrows on left hand pic)