Coaching Angst - ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2374 replies
·
72,193 views
Locked
looks like the referee wanted him sacked today
woot good half time decision
woot good half time decision
Permalink
Permalink
Lulz, sent off for moaning about a throw in.
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
Permalink
Permalink
SACK SIGGY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Permalink
Permalink
They obviously have KJI confused with Elton John. But I can see how you'd make that mix-up.
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink
SACK TRANNY!
As cultured as Che Bunce's left foot and as profilic as John Lammers
Permalink
Permalink
We need a trani surprise
Had one of those in Thailand
We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix
And this is our Home
Permalink
Permalink
what load of boring one dimensional football we played....AGAIN Whilst I wouldnt necessarily advocate sacking the manager somehting need to give....our football changes week by week. We have one good game and then its like damn we had better not play this good again and go back to the dull. long ball and the kick it up the wings play because we cant trust our midfield. Why did we ever sign Elliott..management couldnt see there way clear to giving him game time....we have vukovic...arguably a great goalkeeper...we're letting him go....we play with the shortest centre forward in the A-league and give him no support...Our defence has been hit and miss with all the changes...we sign players on a whim...our preseason scouting was sh*t..possibly due to the world cup but im sure that Ricki doesnt do all the scouting himself
SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
Permalink
Permalink
So if this isn't about the coach then why are you posting it in here?
You know we beat Adelaide last week ay?
You know we beat Adelaide last week ay?
Permalink
Permalink
So if this isn't about the coach then why are you posting it in here?
You know we beat Adelaide last week ay?
You know we beat Adelaide last week ay?
The coach has to take some responsibility for what happens as well as evryone else...and yes I know the nix beat(barely) adelaide last week but then again if you are content to win one game every now and again and are not interested in what happens in between then good for you...Im not!! Its no good looking through rose tinted glasses and saying everything is ok, because its not
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
Permalink
Permalink
By barely you mean apart from the dominat statistics and play that favoured us ?
Yes we were sh*t last night but the previous four displays have been impressive. I'm going to see how things look this Saturday (blurry I expect) before I decide the wheels have fallen off.
Yes we were sh*t last night but the previous four displays have been impressive. I'm going to see how things look this Saturday (blurry I expect) before I decide the wheels have fallen off.
Permalink
Permalink
So if this isn't about the coach then why are you posting it in here? You know we beat Adelaide last week ay?
�
if you are content to win one game every now and again and are not interested in what happens in between then good for you...Im not!! Its no good looking through rose tinted glasses and saying everything is ok, because its not
Last 5 games LWLDW. You don't sack your coach for that, especially showing signs of turning things around before last night's horror show. I agree that sh*t has to change, but I just don't understand how getting rid of the coach is going to help at all?!
Permalink
Permalink
Seasons 1,2 & 3 ranged from good to great but this season is teetering on the edge of being a failure.
A lot of the responsibility sheets back to Herbert - is this reason to sack him - no, but major lessons to be learned - especially about recruitment, consistency of selection and game strategies.
Next few weeks are absolutely key - Roar, Reds, GCU and Mariners have pretty much locked in the top 4. We are in a sh*t fight with Victory, Jets and maybe Sydney for last 2 play-off spots.
Massive game this weekend.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
Permalink
Permalink
Seasons 1,2 & 3 ranged from good to great but this season is teetering on the edge of being a failure.
A lot of the responsibility sheets back to Herbert - is this reason to sack him - no, but major lessons to be learned - especially about recruitment, consistency of selection and game strategies.
Next few weeks are absolutely key - Roar, Reds, GCU and Mariners have pretty much locked in the top 4. We are in a sh*t fight with Victory, Jets and maybe Sydney for last 2 play-off spots.
Massive game this weekend.
I seem to remember season 1 and 2 and the the first half of season 3 us being inconsistent, struggling to win away i.e just like this season.
I actually think we have gone backwards from season 3. At least last season we had a tight defense which got us through even when we were not playing well. This year the defense is a joke.
There still is time to resurrect this season and there have been some good recent signs but we are only a shadow of the side that finished last season.
Permalink
Permalink
So if this isn't about the coach then why are you posting it in here? You know we beat Adelaide last week ay?
if you are content to win one game every now and again and are not interested in what happens in between then good for you...Im not!! Its no good looking through rose tinted glasses and saying everything is ok, because its not
Last 5 games LWLDW. You don't sack your coach for that, especially showing signs of turning things around before last night's horror show. I agree that sh*t has to change, but I just don't understand how getting rid of the coach is going to help at all?!
To be fair i dont think that I suggested that the Nix sack the coach...i suggested that something has to change and that would include looking at all aspects of the team
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
Permalink
Permalink
So if this isn't about the coach then why are you posting it in here? You know we beat Adelaide last week ay?
if you are content to win one game every now and again and are not interested in what happens in between then good for you...Im not!! Its no good looking through rose tinted glasses and saying everything is ok, because its not
If he can't do that then perhaps he is the problem and the thing that needs to change, which is what this thread is about I guess.
I can see this discussion going around in circles for a while...
Permalink
Permalink
So if this isn't about the coach then why are you posting it in here? You know we beat Adelaide last week ay?
if you are content to win one game every now and again and are not interested in what happens in between then good for you...Im not!! Its no good looking through rose tinted glasses and saying everything is ok, because its not
If he can't do that then perhaps he is the problem and the thing that needs to change, which is what this thread is about I guess.
I can see this discussion going around in circles for a while...
not me Im done with this one now
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
Permalink
Permalink
...the previous four displays have been impressive....
time to stop smoking crack before phoenix games news! we had 45 outstanding minutes against Adelaide, the rest has been tripe, barely recognisable as football
Permalink
Permalink
In the NZH article about Vukovich signing for Perth he was quoted as saying:
"You have to compete for a place everywhere. You can't really expect to play week-in week-out. You have to be performing."
The same is true for professional coaches. You're judged on results. Just ask Sam Allardyce.
My hope is that the Nix kick some butt in their next 10 games and power it into the playoffs. But if we see more of the same (e.g. lose all of the remaining 5 'away' games) then it's probably time for a rethink.
"You have to compete for a place everywhere. You can't really expect to play week-in week-out. You have to be performing."
The same is true for professional coaches. You're judged on results. Just ask Sam Allardyce.
My hope is that the Nix kick some butt in their next 10 games and power it into the playoffs. But if we see more of the same (e.g. lose all of the remaining 5 'away' games) then it's probably time for a rethink.
Permalink
Permalink
In the NZH article about Vukovich signing for Perth he was quoted as saying:
"You have to compete for a place everywhere. You can't really expect to play week-in week-out. You have to be performing."
The same is true for professional coaches. You're judged on results. Just ask Sam Allardyce.
My hope is that the Nix kick some butt in their next 10 games and power it into the playoffs. But if we see more of the same (e.g. lose all of the remaining 5 'away' games) then it's probably time for a rethink.
"You have to compete for a place everywhere. You can't really expect to play week-in week-out. You have to be performing."
The same is true for professional coaches. You're judged on results. Just ask Sam Allardyce.
My hope is that the Nix kick some butt in their next 10 games and power it into the playoffs. But if we see more of the same (e.g. lose all of the remaining 5 'away' games) then it's probably time for a rethink.
Hmmm bad example.
Allegedly
Permalink
Permalink
and and and Chris Hughton.
Okay, another bad example.
Okay, another bad example.
Permalink
Permalink
the wide guys are so deep calling it 4-3-3 should be banned!
sack 4-5-1
hire...
anything-anything-2
sack 4-5-1
hire...
anything-anything-2
Permalink
Permalink
"...You have to be performing."
The same is true for professional coaches. You're judged on results. Just ask Sam Allardyce.
Hmmm bad example.
The same is true for professional coaches. You're judged on results. Just ask Sam Allardyce.
Maybe Terry will be a bit more forgiving of Ricki than they were of Sam.
Permalink
Permalink
In the NZH article about Vukovich signing for Perth he was quoted as saying:
"You have to compete for a place everywhere. You can't really expect to play week-in week-out. You have to be performing."
The same is true for professional coaches. You're judged on results. Just ask Sam Allardyce.
My hope is that the Nix kick some butt in their next 10 games and power it into the playoffs. But if we see more of the same (e.g. lose all of the remaining 5 'away' games) then it's probably time for a rethink.
"You have to compete for a place everywhere. You can't really expect to play week-in week-out. You have to be performing."
The same is true for professional coaches. You're judged on results. Just ask Sam Allardyce.
My hope is that the Nix kick some butt in their next 10 games and power it into the playoffs. But if we see more of the same (e.g. lose all of the remaining 5 'away' games) then it's probably time for a rethink.
Hmmm bad example.
Thats a very good example.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Permalink
Permalink
True,they should be winning the premiership after being in the relegation zone when he took over.
Yeah good one mate.
Yeah good one mate.
Allegedly
Permalink
Permalink
True,they should be winning the premiership after being in the relegation zone when he took over.
Yeah good one mate.
Yeah good one mate.
The trouble with you is that you try and make everyone else believe that you know something about football. You are just full of crap.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Permalink
Permalink
the problem with ricki is that hes built systems with smeltz that used one striker and now he doesnt really wanna break out of his one CF mould so he can clog up the midfield with his favs Brown and Lia.
Permalink
Permalink
the problem with ricki is that hes built systems with smeltz that used one striker and now he doesn't really wanna break out of his one CF mould so he can clog up the midfield with his favs Brown and Lia.
I don't think playing with one CF is necessarily a problem - playing Ifill in that role, with Brown supporting and Ward / Leo/ Daniel / Rojas wide has worked well.
I think the problem is we have played Greeny in that role for a season and half and the role doesn't fit his skill set hence we, and he, have struggled. We signed Mac to be the target this season but that's been a flop.
Leaving Ifill as the CF is fine as long as Brown is told to play forward - which shouldn't be a problem with Manny back at DM.
I don't think the problem is Herbert necessarily wanting to pack the park with midfielders - I think the problem is we haven't recruited a second decent striker for Greeny to play off so we end up playing one upfront by default.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
Permalink
Permalink
I agree. I'm more accepting of Greenacre these days because of his huge workrate, commitment and professionalism but whenever we play him in that sole striking role I groan inwardly. It really restricts us IMO, and it often seems illogical - pumping long balls and crosses to a not very big man who is energetic but not overly skilful.
Ifill may not be wholly comfortable as striker but he looks a lot more dangerous. Much prefer to have him up the top end of the park than having to drop back all the time as was happening again in the GC game last week.
Permalink
Permalink
True,they should be winning the premiership after being in the relegation zone when he took over.
Yeah good one mate.
Yeah good one mate.
They have been low on the table a lot since he took over. The new owners expect more, dont know whether they will get it with the team they have.
It is an example though of if you dont acheive after a certain amount of time, then off you go.
Permalink
Permalink
True,they should be winning the premiership after being in the relegation zone when he took over.
Yeah good one mate.
They have been low on the table a lot since he took over. The new owners expect more, dont know whether they will get it with the team they have. It is an example though of if you dont acheive after a certain amount of time, then off you go.
Yeah good one mate.
Thank goodness for common sense.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Permalink
Permalink
This topic is locked.