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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree Royal but I'm not sure he was the best centre back. Like I said, effective but prone to concentration lapses at the wrong time.

Sigmund was the rock that sat behind behind John 'The Rock' McKain. How he didn't get a callup to the footballeroos is beyond me. In that last game against Melbourne you tell me 5 months ago if Sigmund would have kept Thompson bloody quiet (or any of the nix players for that matter) I think it shows his determination and growth into a quality defender.


I think that Durante and Muscat are two good players to have in that they are versatile. I would have liked to have seen Durante at RB because he played well there for the Planes and Muscat did play on the left for a couple of games. I think Dodd, Durante, Sigmund, Muscat and Lockhead (who has class but not form at the moment) are a great set to have and I would pretty much bet Hard News' left testy that all 5 of those players would walk onto any other A League squad that ranked above us and give the incumbents a bloody scare for a starting positon
Agent 472009-01-30 00:55:20
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Agent 47 wrote:
I agree Royal but I'm not sure he was the best centre back. Like I said, effective but prone to concentration lapses at the wrong time.

Sigmund was the rock that sat behind behind John 'The Rock' McKain. How he didn't get a callup to the footballeroos is beyond me. In that last game against Melbourne you tell me 5 months ago if Sigmund would have kept Thompson bloody quiet (or any of the nix players for that matter) I think it shows his determination and growth into a quality defender.


I think that Durante and Muscat are two good players to have in that they are versatile. I would have liked to have seen Durante at RB because he played well there for the Planes and Muscat did play on the left for a couple of games. I think Dodd, Durante, Sigmund, Muscat and Lockhead (who has class but not form at the moment) are a great set to have and I would pretty much bet Hard News' left testy that all 5 of those players would walk onto any other A League squad that ranked above us and give the incumbents a bloody scare for a starting positon


I never said he was the best. (Moss did though)

Dodd played well enough to keep Durante out of more than one game and may have kept McKain out of a centre back spot too if the latter hadn't found his feet in the mdifield and played so well. The McKain/Durante pairing in the first part of the season was average, despite both being very good players. The Dodd/Sigmund pairing when together was tremendous.

Agree that the 5 you mention must be kept and hopefully will be. I hope Dodd doesn't get any other offers or demand too much here as others have mentioned. My point is we need players like him - Dodd, Brown and Siggy showed some passion and grit that I love watching. It compliments players with flair (when we get one) and allows them to play.
Royal2009-01-30 11:30:49
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
auskiwi wrote:
martinb wrote:
apart from the abuse about Dodd do you want to put up reasons you think he's a hack?

yep. you got me. sad huh. writhing in the grip of reason. I question your affiliation 'cos you hating on our centre back who has done two years of giving his best for the 'Nix. fingers crossed for next season.


 
I can sum Dodd up by saying he plays in gumboots and blinkers
Seriously, some of you guys are funny, not in a good way though.
So i "Hate our centre back". Really? . Thats a strong word to use.
I don't support players blindly, thats all.
You question my affiliation because I think you are quite small minded.
Youve got this us and them aussie kiwi thing going, havn't you.
Who cares if hes given two years of his best. ( and how do you know that anyway?)
If best isn't good enough which in my opinion it isn't, then see ya Dodd
 
Unfortunately you haven't come up with a realistic replacement. In the current stuation just calling for him to be ditched seems rather stupid.
 
 
I'm not the teams scout, I doubt we have one.
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Feverish wrote:
auskiwi wrote:
Hard News wrote:
North Queensland, Newcastle, Sydney, Adelaide, Perth.
 
Good. May the highest bidder win. See ya Dodd.
 
er no we need to keep him numpty
 
Yeah if you are happy with average.
Name calling, grow up feverish
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
auskiwi wrote:
Name calling, grow up feverish[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=auskiwi]If Stopout said that regarding me, he is a clown.

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Hard News wrote:
auskiwi wrote:
Name calling, grow up feverish[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=auskiwi]If Stopout said that regarding me, he is a clown.




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Feverish wrote:
Leggy wrote:
martinb wrote:
apart from the abuse about Dodd do you want to put up reasons you think he's a hack? yep. you got me. sad huh. writhing in the grip of reason. I question your affiliation 'cos you hating on our centre back who has done two years of giving his best for the 'Nix. fingers crossed for next season.


I think you are missing the point. I don't anyone is questioning that he is doing his best.I am sure he is. The fact is that he is NOT up to this league.
 
hmm not sure how he kept Dura out the team...
 
Yep, thats a mystery.
Ricki's master plan???
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Do you like anybody on the Nix playing roster and coaching staff?

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wingback4eva wrote:

Do you like anybody on the Nix playing roster and coaching staff?

Yes. What a funny question.
Smeltz
Bertos
Durante
Mckain
Sigmund
Moss
 
Coaching staff? Well I can only judge on what I've seen from Ricki so no I don't think much of him.
The others, who knows?
 
 
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auskiwi wrote:
I'm not the teams scout, I doubt we have one.


IIRC, we have at least 3.
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robbwatson wrote:
auskiwi wrote:
I'm not the teams scout, I doubt we have one.


IIRC, we have at least 3.
 
Interesting. Where are they based?
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
auskiwi wrote:
robbwatson wrote:
auskiwi wrote:
I'm not the teams scout, I doubt we have one.


IIRC, we have at least 3.
 
Interesting. Where are they based?


Not sure on the numbers, but I think it's 2 in Australia and 1 in the UK.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe they should send one to eastern europe.
Sure there would be some unsung talent there
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
StopOut wrote:
Better the devil you know, etc. Anyway, as pointed out, the defence is not a huge area of concern - it's further up the park we need to worry about.
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btw, the comment that Dodd is not up to A League standard is ridiculous.


Don't see too many other clubs beating down the door to sign him.
The Roar got rid of him a couple of years ago.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Leggy wrote:
StopOut wrote:
Better the devil you know, etc. Anyway, as pointed out, the defence is not a huge area of concern - it's further up the park we need to worry about.
 

btw, the comment that Dodd is not up to A League standard is ridiculous.


Don't see too many other clubs beating down the door to sign him.
The Roar got rid of him a couple of years ago.
 
well.......The only other defender in our outfit that just edges doddy out is sigmund...mckain couldnt do it and neither could durante

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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Leggy wrote:
Don't see too many other clubs beating down the door to sign him.
The Roar got rid of him a couple of years ago.


No, he left them in the mid-season transfer window to transfer to Romania.  They didn't get rid of him, he negotiated a release.

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Leggy wrote:
StopOut wrote:
Better the devil you know, etc. Anyway, as pointed out, the defence is not a huge area of concern - it's further up the park we need to worry about.
 

btw, the comment that Dodd is not up to A League standard is ridiculous.


Don't see too many other clubs beating down the door to sign him.
The Roar got rid of him a couple of years ago.
 
point A - how do you know?? course he's got offer
point B - get ya facts straight

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
auskiwi wrote:
Maybe they should send one to eastern europe.
Sure there would be some unsung talent there
 
I bet we'd be the only club looking at players in Eastern Europe.  Honestly, what is everyon'e obsession with us having a scouting network?  We're always going to be competing against better resourced clubs.  We are not looking to unearth talent, we will go on recommendations from Agents and others, we'll (hopefully) take a look at them and then sign them if they are any good.  We're never going to have full time employees sitting on a Tuesday night watchign a Romanian second division match. 
 
Stop playing football manager and get into the real world.

Normo's coming home

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
auskiwi wrote:
Maybe they should send one to eastern europe.
Sure there would be some unsung talent there
 
I bet we'd be the only club looking at players in Eastern Europe. 
 
Honestly, what is everyon'e obsession with us having a scouting network?  We're always going to be competing against better resourced clubs.  We are not looking to unearth talent, we will go on recommendations from Agents and others, we'll (hopefully) take a look at them in the flesh and then sign them if they are any good. 
 
We're never going to have full time employees sitting on a Tuesday night watchign a Romanian second division match. 
 
Stop playing football manager and get into the real world.
james dean2009-01-30 23:23:23

Normo's coming home

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tony's got my Romanain player agent details who I met at Euro - so we have Romania covered

Founder

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Your best defender
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Nope, Sigmund.


Possibly. Still very raw.

I think you're on to a good thing with Dodd + Sigmund + McKain + Durante. Glad he's staying with you if we can't sign him (not that I think we are). Just need to fix up the midfield and the forward line.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah I think with the signing of Dodd  (if), the one thing we don't need to fix is our defensive line save another keeper, but thats a different argument...
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
auskiwi wrote:
Maybe they should send one to eastern europe.
Sure there would be some unsung talent there
 
I bet we'd be the only club looking at players in Eastern Europe. 
 
Honestly, what is everyon'e obsession with us having a scouting network?  We're always going to be competing against better resourced clubs.  We are not looking to unearth talent, we will go on recommendations from Agents and others, we'll (hopefully) take a look at them in the flesh and then sign them if they are any good. 
 
We're never going to have full time employees sitting on a Tuesday night watchign a Romanian second division match. 
 
Stop playing football manager and get into the real world.



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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Royal wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:
I agree Royal but I'm not sure he was the best centre back. Like I said, effective but prone to concentration lapses at the wrong time.


I never said he was the best. (Moss did though)



Sorry mate I wasn't accusing you of saying that but I can see how it reads that way..
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
Leggy wrote:
StopOut wrote:
Better the devil you know, etc. Anyway, as pointed out, the defence is not a huge area of concern - it's further up the park we need to worry about.
�

btw, the comment that Dodd is not up to A League standard is ridiculous.
Don't see too many other clubs beating down the door to sign him. The Roar got rid of him a couple of years ago.

�

point A - how do you know?? course he's got offer

point B - get ya facts straight


If he is as good as you seem to think, how come he never made the Australian team squad ( A league only) that played Indonesia during the week.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cos the Coach didn't pick him. Like lots of other players who didn't get picked. Jon McKain for example?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Leggy wrote:
If he is as good as you seem to think, how come he never made the Australian team squad ( A league only) that played Indonesia during the week.

I don't think anyone suggested he was Footballeroos material.... Where is your point? McKain perhaps but not Dodd.

Our back 4 is better if he is signed by us, than letting him walk and having no one and having to find someone who will be as good as him from the first kick.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
Leggy wrote:
StopOut wrote:
Better the devil you know, etc. Anyway, as pointed out, the defence is not a huge area of concern - it's further up the park we need to worry about.
�

btw, the comment that Dodd is not up to A League standard is ridiculous.
Don't see too many other clubs beating down the door to sign him. The Roar got rid of him a couple of years ago.

�

point A - how do you know?? course he's got offer

point B - get ya facts straight


I suggest that it is you that should get your facts straight. He was dropped from the Roar and with mutual agreement came to a deal to go to FC Universitste Craiova in Romania. He lasted two months there and then joined Falkirk. Have a look to see how many time he played-lots of red cards?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Dodd at Falkirk  2006/2007: 23 games, no goals, doesn't know about red cards. Initially on a short-term contract, did enough to earn a contract extension for a year. At the expiration of that he joined us, since then 36 games, one goal, no red cards that I can recall, though I may stand to be corrected.

I think more importantly than historical stats though, has been a defensive rock for us, both in seson one when everyone around him in defense save Lochy was crumbing, and this season with Siggy (save a few gaes in midfield).

I realise that second paragraph is subjective, but using stats from his prior clubs can be made to prove anything.


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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Scottishbhoy wrote:
Does he really need a special thread?
 
 
can we just be gone with him and sign someone decent...he is not the best defender in the world at best he is only average
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yes, a special thread, a special deal, a pay rise...
He's already got the best personal chant from YF as well.
 
who let the dodd out does not count
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
Who let the Dodd out? A classic chant! Yes to signing him up for another two years.
 
if they sign him for two years i am going to follow someone else!
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Even if you accept that Dodd isn't the best defender in the A-League, where is his replacement going to come from ?

He's one of 4 options and does a job that makes him competitive in this league, we need to spend all the spare money we have on re-vamping the attack so where are we going to find someone else proven at this level, willing to be part of almost a rotation system and happily paid within our structure ?

There is already a shortage of A-League quality central defenders (witness the demand for Topor-Stanley and Fyfe and the fact that Cornthwaite starts nearly ever match.).

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Leggy wrote:
If he is as good as you seem to think, how come he never made the Australian team squad ( A league only) that played Indonesia during the week.


Surely you don't believe that that squad was the best players in the A-League ?

I'm not saying Karl Dodd was close to it, but if you are going to use that argument you need to believe that and I don't know anyone else in Australia who does.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah it was an ordinary squad...
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
This to me is one of the easiest decisions TP and RH have to make, get him signed and concentrate on finding those strikers.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Even if you accept that Dodd isn't the best defender in the A-League, where is his replacement going to come from ?

He's one of 4 options and does a job that makes him competitive in this league, we need to spend all the spare money we have on re-vamping the attack so where are we going to find someone else proven at this level, willing to be part of almost a rotation system and happily paid within our structure ?

There is already a shortage of A-League quality central defenders (witness the demand for Topor-Stanley and Fyfe and the fact that Cornthwaite starts nearly ever match.).
 
Is right. I'm well keen on signing him up. He's a solid player who adds a lot to the squad. Like you say, in signing him up we can concentrate on strikers
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
a)Dodd is a meataxe
b)everyteam needs a good meataxe
c)therefore we need Dodd

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