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I am going to keep pushing Lee Norfolk's name forward for this role.
He is the only candidate in the world (apart from Ryan Nelsen) whose credentials are as good as Danny Hay's, making him immune to criticism.
You will be glad to know I have reached out to Lee on Twitter to find out if he is applying.
Isn't that called tapping up? Expect a response from Leiston FC's legal dept. One from Danny Hay would be even better.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Trani seems to be the front runner from all the Aussie/NZ 'candidates' for me. Been here before, knows the team and wants the job.
Trani seems to be the front runner from all the Aussie/NZ 'candidates' for me. Been here before, knows the team and wants the job.
And probably wouldnt ask for a hell of a lot of a wage either - perfect for Welnix's cost saving philosophhy
I was thinking Luc Trani would be a serious contender but a few things have crossed my mind since. He's been widely regarded as a very good tactical coach but that's only one box ticked. There are many other aspects a good manager needs. Not saying he doesn't have them but he doesn't have a lot of experience in 'top jobs'. The new owners haven't worked with Trani - if it was still Terry making these decisions I would think it's more likely.
Fuck this stupid game
The Trani question is an interesting one. Has he been linked with any other head coaching roles at any point?
To me it seems that most people who have suggested him as a replacement see the fact that he 'knows the culture of the club' to be one of his major selling points. My question is, is that really that big of an advantage?
(a) The owners might deliberately be looking to change the culture a bit. Being too associated with the 'old guard' could actually be a disadvantage.
(b) Does it even matter that he knows the culture? If Greenacre stays as assistant then that is one box that is well and truly ticked in terms of the coaching team as a whole.
(c) Does he tick many other boxes? As Topleft has just said, there are many other boxes that need to be ticked.
If I was to hazard a guess I'd say Trani is going to be the backup option. Welnix will do their best to find someone else, and if they can't, they'll call Trani.
Well if we are going to tick by boxes shall we form some list of boxes for ticking to frame our discussion around somewhat?
Tactics
Experience/pedigree
History of youth development?
What sort of boxes do you favor? What are your priorities?
What are other important boxes? Shall we compile a list Mary Poppins style and send it to Welnix?
"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"
A good idea of the type of stuff that is going on in Australian coaching. I suspect this is a wee way ahead of what is going on in NZ
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1142266/Edwards-reveals-Glory-philosophy
Normo's coming home
If Trani becomes our coach, I expect it will be veto similar to the Rado disaster. Great as an assistant manager, but just not cut out to be top dog.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
The problem I have with dismissing assistants is we're then only left with either ex-A-league head coaches, many of whom are ex coaches for a reason, and people who have never coached an A-League team before who are then less qualified than guys who have been assistants. Unless you are only against Trani on the basis he was assistant at the Phoenix?
Normo's coming home
I am going to keep pushing Lee Norfolk's name forward for this role.
He is the only candidate in the world (apart from Ryan Nelsen) whose credentials are as good as Danny Hay's, making him immune to criticism.
You will be glad to know I have reached out to Lee on Twitter to find out if he is applying.
I like it.Keep us informed.Agree with HN funny.
Trani seems to be the front runner from all the Aussie/NZ 'candidates' for me. Been here before, knows the team and wants the job.
We need someone to reconstruct the team and get rid of a whole bunch of players we've got on the books at the moment.
I think we have a 2-year rebuilding job ahead of us, we need someone who can do that.
is a foreign coach totally out of the question?
That would depend on what the question actually is... but, no. Very hit and miss - and history shows more misses than hits, though that applies regardless I guess.
E + R + O
Trani seems to be the front runner from all the Aussie/NZ 'candidates' for me. Been here before, knows the team and wants the job.
We need someone to reconstruct the team and get rid of a whole bunch of players we've got on the books at the moment.
I think we have a 2-year rebuilding job ahead of us, we need someone who can do that.
This
Our team is so locked into the style of play that we have been playing for the last 6 years. It will not be an overnight job to fix it. The team needs a total reconstruction. We need a raft of new players and need a completely different tactical approach. Whoever comes in will have to rebuild the team from the bottom up. It won't be any easy job.....especially the recruitment as we are stuck with 4 of our 5 imports for next year. People are calling for a cleanout of players. With only one import slot left I would be interested to know where are we going to find a whole bunch of good new A-League quality kiwis and Aussies? Tough ask for a new coach to fix this quickly.
As for Trani as potential coach. How do people know that he is only suitable as an assistant? What are they basing that on? He was head coach of Adelaide for their ACL campaign and they won 6 out of 8. I have no knowledge about whether Trani would be a good head coach other than the favourable impression he created when he was at the Nix. Could someone elaborate on the reasons why they think he would not be a good Head Coach
think trani also doesnt seem to be the motivator type.. however Id rather him given a shot than some of the other Aussie flops
i want to see an experienced manager who has history in coaching possession based footy and youth development
think trani also doesnt seem to be the motivator type.. however Id rather him given a shot than some of the other Aussie flops
i want to see an experienced manager who has history in coaching possession based footy and youth development
Fuck this stupid game
Lee Norfolk would be an excellent choice.
He has played and coached at premier league level.
Lee Norfolk would be an excellent choice.
He has played and coached at premier league level.
Time to get #leenorfolk trending I think?
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
Actually the official hashtag of the social media campaign to get Lee Norfolk as the Phoenix coach is #norfolk4nix. But trending #leenorfolk would be good too, and would help demonstrate how serious we are.
Actually the official hashtag of the social media campaign to get Lee Norfolk as the Phoenix coach is #norfolk4nix. But trending #leenorfolk would be good too, and would help demonstrate how serious we are.
Noted! :-)
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
Not sure about Trani. I want a significant shift. Being here before is not an advantage in my mind.
Trani seems to be the front runner from all the Aussie/NZ 'candidates' for me. Been here before, knows the team and wants the job.
We need someone to reconstruct the team and get rid of a whole bunch of players we've got on the books at the moment.
I think we have a 2-year rebuilding job ahead of us, we need someone who can do that.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Here's some background information on our coach-to-be Lee Norfolk...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/6967804/Football-achievement-to-savour-and-emulate
Lee is a former Kevin Fallon protege so that's another critic who will have to stfu if (when) he comes here. The case for Norfolk is just getting stronger and stronger.
#norfolk4nix
I'm not sure what the attraction for Lee Norfolk is, having read that article. I don't know anything else about him except for what is in the article but he's only been player-coaching at a 7th tier league team, why do people think he can step up?
I'm not sure what the attraction for Lee Norfolk is, having read that article. I don't know anything else about him except for what is in the article but he's only been player-coaching at a 7th tier league team, why do people think he can step up?
Because he has played 4 Premier League Matches! Same No as Danny Hay
I'm not sure what the attraction for Lee Norfolk is, having read that article. I don't know anything else about him except for what is in the article but he's only been player-coaching at a 7th tier league team, why do people think he can step up?
Because he has played 4 Premier League Matches! Same No as Danny Hay
LOL is this more about Danny Hay then?
What about Ramon Tribulietx then? He's from Barcelona. So he must be good.
Based on the video posted above, how about Phil Mcwhatsisface from Wairarapa United?
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
What do people think of the Scotsmen Ernie Merrick and Ian Ferguson?
To me, Merrick seemed pretty competent in his years at MV until that last season when things seemed to go a bit awry.
A-League winner and coach of the year 2007, 2010. 10 months managing Hong Kong national team till last December (2 wins, 2 losses until he became victim of internal political wrangling in HK FA apparently)
Ferguson just doesn't seem to be a good manager from what has unfolded in his career so far...
Maybe Merrick with Ferguson as assistant might work...
I've never seen a younger looking 60 year-old than Merrick either (maybe he has a secret elixir that could rejuvenate the Nix): 
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Hardly a combination for peossession football as dictated by our leaders, and our frontline doesn't exactly have the Thompson -> Allsopp pace that Merrick's success was built on. One Phoenix loyalist I spoke to said he'd melt his season pass if we signed Merrick.
You say Ferguson isn't a good coach then say we should sign him as an assistant? Did you think that through before you typed it?
I'm still far more concerened about who is making the decision. Doesn't the coaching committee include Gareth, Noah and one other?
What do people think of the Scotsmen Ernie Merrick and Ian Ferguson?
To me, Merrick seemed pretty competent in his years at MV until that last season when things seemed to go a bit awry.
A-League winner and coach of the year 2007, 2010. 10 months managing Hong Kong national team till last December (2 wins, 2 losses until he became victim of internal political wrangling in HK FA apparently)
Ferguson just doesn't seem to be a good manager from what has unfolded in his career so far...
Maybe Merrick with Ferguson as assistant might work...
I've never seen a younger looking 60 year-old than Merrick either (maybe he has a secret elixir that could rejuvenate the Nix):
While we are at, bring in Lawrie as director of football, keep Gould as gk coach and sack Greenie and change the kit to this:
any decision that involves Gareth causes me great concern, I simply don't trust him to make the best decision for the players and the team. It may end up being a good financial decision but i could care less about that right now,
Queenslander 3x a year.
Hardly a combination for peossession football as dictated by our leaders, and our frontline doesn't exactly have the Thompson -> Allsopp pace that Merrick's success was built on. One Phoenix loyalist I spoke to said he'd melt his season pass if we signed Merrick.
You say Ferguson isn't a good coach then say we should sign him as an assistant? Did you think that through before you typed it?
I'm still far more concerened about who is making the decision. Doesn't the coaching committee include Gareth, Noah and one other?
Seems unlikely to me they'll find anyone technically competent enough for the relatively low wages on offer in the A-League to seriously introduce "possession football' anyway - and we won't have the players for it anyway...
That's more realistically a very long-term goal.
I'm really only throwing ideas out there - I'm no staunch advocate of either Merrick or Ferguson - but they're the sort of options realistically available in Australasia. Seems to me there's no-one of proven competence or experience in NZ - Neil Emblen has distanced h.s. in recent days, making clear he considers h.s. not ready for the top job but only assistant at best - and prefers to continue as Ricki's assistant in the national set-up.
Note I actually raise doubts about Ferguson as a "manager" - he may be okay as a "coach" doing the donkey work an assistant does under the manager's guidance running training sessions etc.
I personally would avoid employing him as a manager...
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
If people reckon that the A-league has left Ricki behind, then Merrick would be parking a horse and cart in front of our goal.
What do people think of the Scotsmen Ernie Merrick and Ian Ferguson?
Maybe Merrick with Ferguson as assistant might work...
While we are at, bring in Lawrie as director of football, keep Gould as gk coach and sack Greenie and change the kit to this:
YES!, YES! YES! And "Morgan" is a Scottish as well as a Welsh name!
Probably part of some secret plot to move the Nix from Wellington to Dunedin!
Remember Culloden!
Big Pete 65, Christchurch