Halberg Awards

Indeed, but I'm not quite sure what the following line from the Halberg site means
... "Years later, this was amended by The Halberg Trust to be more in keeping with the manner in which the Trust applied the presentation of the Award".

Is there an amended set of criteria?

If so, they are a little elusive.Turfmoore2011-02-11 10:02:55

Well they're not mutually exclusive; "honour those whose personal performances (now extended to teams and coaches), or example, has had the most beneficial effect on the advancement of sport in the country" would be a subset (generally) of "recognise excellence".

But the description of recognising excellence can cover a lot of other facets of sporting excellence not just providing most beneficial effect on the advancement of sport in the country.

Yeah, I spent a bit of time last night trying to find the formal criteria, and only found the kind of vague statements on the website. There must surely be a nomination form or some such that has the criteria on it? It really would be good to be able to quote from it and to be able to reference it quite formally.

Mind you, wont change the minds of those who are obsessed by "winning" - no matter how minor internationally the sport is-as being the only measure of success.

It is also worth looking at who the judges are for the Halbergs- I would not have thought they were necessarily a particularly pro-football bunch, but clearly understood the significance of the All White's achievements last year. 2009/2010 will be remembered by future generations of sports fans in a way that, amazing though the game was, the netball wont be; and fine though the achievement was, the rugby wont be either. Neither had the impact on the sporting psyche the way the football did.

Ok, preaching to the converted!

if it was winning only, surely the black ferns would have cleaned up everyone having won their respective world cup and going the season unbeaten?

Its online at http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/4643851/Ryan-Nelsen-deserved-sportsman-of-year-award

Got quite a few upset comments already...

yea I hit that thing with some comments of my own too :)

So much negativity and vitriol going around.
Isn't it supposed to be a celebration of sporting achievement?
Pathetic behaviour by some.

The only way to satisfactorily shut the oafish mouths of losers like Deaker is for the "AB's" to lose in the quarter final of the World Cup.  Again.  I will laugh so much I will vomit.  There is nothing like the boorish rugby "establishment" being shat on from a great height.

I am a fan of all sports, and have always enjoyed my rugby immensely. My family are all rugby-mad (season tix holders, old man is chairman of the local club etc etc) but they appreciate football for what it is, they watch it as nz sports fans, and they were happy for the AWs last night. Why can't other people be like that?

First para is good, but c'mon we should really get away from a them and us attitude.

The worst part is the All White haters think the All Blacks should've got it...

The Kiwis did a far better job than the ABs, and, if not them, the Netball.

That's paulm's very point.

With all the 'anti' sentiment, even a rugby watcher like paulm is being driven into the world of schadenfreude.

I have to say I feel very much the same way (although I'll probably still be supporting the All Blacks come RWC time).

I have to say that much of the rugby community just don't get it. More fools them.

Dick Taylor has just resigned from the judging panel in protest at the All Whites winning the supreme award.

That is pathetic.

What a Dick.

It boggles the mind how a judge on a panel thinks that resigning because his vote didn't win, is a good idea. ScoobyD2011-02-11 12:24:02

P.S. Dick Taylor seriously dude that's just whacked

Hes a dick.

Angst on Twitter is incredible.

Nice to see celebs like Andy Mulligan getting amongst the AW's support though.

Unfortunately this kind of reaction facilitates the us and them mind set. I love watching the AB's, why does supporting one mean you don't support the other? Celebrate both and stop acting like jock d*ckheads.

What, is he still alive???

Mr Taylor should maybe take a leaf out of Brendan Telfer's book. Haven't really got much time for Telfer but, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, this morning he openly admitted he didn't vote for the AWs but was heaping congratulations on them for winning it.

The whole debate makes me laugh for several reason, as people seem determined NOT to celebrate the fact we do well globally for such a small country.

Dick is the President of the Canterbury Rugby Supporters Club, so maybe it is to be expected.

And as noted in Stuff.co.nz, he is also the President of the Canterbury Rugby Supporters Club.

Truly pathetic behaviour. Blotted his copybook well and truly.

I was at QE2 when Tayler won his gold in 1974. Fantastic performance and I'll always remember it.

But, I'll also always remember Winston's goal (for the elation of the moment) and how NZ defied the odds at the 2010 World Cup.

Both worthy winners.

How pathetic .  There were 28 judges on the panel.  Doesn't Dick Tayler believe in democracy?

Oh for crying out loud...

Bit of an insult to all the other judges as well.

Has Eric Young waded in yet?

Mate, I had the same debate, this morning, with that Mikeysmokes guy that you are having now. We should invite him on here and ask him to make a reasoned argument that is more than it is about winning.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10705483

Biggest dick award.

Someone should buy him a ticket so he can go to a country other than NZ. what a plonker.

Fairly typical behaviour down here. See it almost daily

This bit cracked me up from the article:
"There are holes in this approach. First, the assumption that great sportsmen and women have a broad knowledge across a range of sports is flawed. Those that have lived within the bubble of a single sport rarely have the time or the inclination to look outwards."

Unlike SOME in our sporting media that live in the bubble of a single sport and rarely have the inclination to look past rugby. The clown can't even see his own hypocrisy!

not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere but who else loved ricki's terry plug last night! That was awesome