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In The Zone - The End

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about 11 years ago

1. What's the decision making process/business case for a boutique stadium vs hard ball negotiations with Shane Harmon for Westpac? Quite frankly to crack 15,000 on a regular basis could make staying quite attractive, especially if combined with franchise extension from FFA and admission to the ACL.
2. Are you moving admin office to Top of Tory complex next to Football Central?
3. End of season YF vs Phoenix select 11 v 11?

Introducing Mr.Stevens

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Mr Stevens wrote:
3. End of season YF vs Phoenix select 11 v 11?
There is no way, as long as Domes asshole points downwards, that this will ever happen. Put all your stock on the field in a game against supporters where it takes one guy to try relive his 'legend in my own mind' status as a quality footballer and put in the most agricultural tackle and mame someone. Then stand up and say 'well I was going for the ball'. You'd need rocks in your head to commit to that because there is no such thing as a friendly.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 11 years ago

1: Chips, sort them out.

2: My members keyring from 08/09 has broken, will you cover that under the Consumer Guarantees Act?

3: The F&B range at the stadium is far too narrow and over priced. Why no halal pork buns or Irn Bru?

4: Can we be more like the Warriors and put out wear multiple different jerseys.

and finally (and seriously), 5: What is the club doing to maximise our current on-field performance, off the field (ie: media, marketing, and memberships) and have we got sufficient infrastructure/capacity to manage increased demand on our human resources - players and support staff?

E + R + O

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about 11 years ago

energy24.7 wrote:

Can he stop banging on about the bullshark 10k requirement. A solid, consistent 8k is absolutely acceptable for the region. No doubt we want more but bitching about it and threatening for it to be taken away doesn't help with public sentiment to get behind a team that possibly won't exist in the near future (in their minds). Talk the club up at every opportunity and more people will want to be part of it.

 

I don't know about that last bit. Relentless (blind) positivity is a big yawnfest. Honesty is a good thing. But I agree they need to find a new way to address the crowd debate.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 11 years ago

It was interesting seeing Andrew Saville having to do a positive segment on the Nix and still managing to make it sound negative even though we are winning.

Still publicity is publicity.

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about 11 years ago
Dear Domey. I have nothing to do now that the Asian cup is on. In the future can we ensure that it is hosted some where in Asia?
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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about 11 years ago

Dome was bloody good value on the pod recording this morning. 2ndBest should hopefully get it out tonight.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 11 years ago

Smithy wrote:

energy24.7 wrote:

Can he stop banging on about the bullshark 10k requirement. A solid, consistent 8k is absolutely acceptable for the region. No doubt we want more but bitching about it and threatening for it to be taken away doesn't help with public sentiment to get behind a team that possibly won't exist in the near future (in their minds). Talk the club up at every op portunity and more people will want to be part of it.

 

I don't know about that last bit. Relentless (blind) positivity is a big yawnfest. Honesty is a good thing. But I agree they need to find a new way to address the crowd debate.

Plenty of others will cover off the negative  stuff. I just hate the whining from the club about crowds. Do things in the back ground, concentrate on long term gains and creating life long supporters and praise the core 6-8k you're getting rather than cry about not getting 10k right now.

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about 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Have got David 'Thunder' Dome on the podcast this week. Recording tomorrow so post any questions to him here.

You ask about the Wgtn Utd thing?

Founder

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about 11 years ago

Did you ask us to?

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about 11 years ago

no only just read this thread. Do I have to do all your work for you?

Founder

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about 11 years ago

Mr Stevens wrote:

1. What's the decision making process/business case for a boutique stadium vs hard ball negotiations with Shane Harmon for Westpac? Quite frankly to crack 15,000 on a regular basis could make staying quite attractive, especially if combined with franchise extension from FFA and admission to the ACL.
(----)

With all due respect, that is putting cart before the horse.  

The business case should be made on a likely franchise extension assuming Asian Confederation bosses do not object (probably should not, and I hope not, as this is a small fry issue for them). It should not be made on us playing in the ACL if we win the league (they would not let us do it as this was the basis of the permission for us to play in HAL, which is in Asia - a different confederation as we are in Oceania).

We already know we can crack 8,000 with a good performance, and in finals we may be able to have regular 10,000 crowds. The business case for the future to examine is: will we lose money at a large stadium (Westpac) even with 10K? Would building a smaller rectangular stadium make us drop the attendances below the current 8,000? What is the sensitive point of cost vs earning capacity?

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 11 years ago

Feverish wrote:

no only just read this thread. Do I have to do all your work for you?

From what I've heard the WU committee are convening this month to make a decision on it. Pretty late really. 

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about 11 years ago

energy24.7 wrote:

Feverish wrote:

no only just read this thread. Do I have to do all your work for you?

From what I've heard the WU committee are convening this month to make a decision on it. Pretty late really. 

Yeah but would be interesting to know the philosophy behind it

Founder

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about 11 years ago
I'm looking forward to this one If he's answered a third of these questions I'll be happy.
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about 11 years ago

#InTheZone 148 is out at www.yellowfever.co.nz/podcasts

Phoenix General Manager, David 'Thunder' Dome, joins the podcast to talk all things back office, including our licence, finances, crowds and fixtures, while the rest of the podders review the Phoenix's demolition of Brisbane Roar. Young All Whites, coach Jose Figueira, dials in before they depart for their World Cup qualification tournament, and Team Wellington's Pat Fleming looks back at their match with Qatar.


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about 11 years ago

Awesome! Just in time to listen to as I eat dinner! Thanks guys.


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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about 11 years ago

Great podcast lads.

Kudos to Dome for being so up front.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 11 years ago

Domey, Domey, give us a wave.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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about 11 years ago

I can't believe Domey spoke to the media! 

Sheesh!!! ;o)


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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about 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Mr Stevens wrote:
3. End of season YF vs Phoenix select 11 v 11?
There is no way, as long as Domes asshole points downwards, that this will ever happen. Put all your stock on the field in a game against supporters where it takes one guy to try relive his 'legend in my own mind' status as a quality footballer and put in the most agricultural tackle and mame someone. Then stand up and say 'well I was going for the ball'. You'd need rocks in your head to commit to that because there is no such thing as a friendly.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

5 v 5? Supporters' BBQ/Festa? FFS after 8 year's worth of support don't u reckon we're worth the recognition and a little thank u?

Introducing Mr.Stevens

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about 11 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

Mr Stevens wrote:

1. What's the decision making process/business case for a boutique stadium vs hard ball negotiations with Shane Harmon for Westpac? Quite frankly to crack 15,000 on a regular basis could make staying quite attractive, especially if combined with franchise extension from FFA and admission to the ACL.
(----)

With all due respect, that is putting cart before the horse.  

The business case should be made on a likely franchise extension assuming Asian Confederation bosses do not object (probably should not, and I hope not, as this is a small fry issue for them). It should not be made on us playing in the ACL if we win the league (they would not let us do it as this was the basis of the permission for us to play in HAL, which is in Asia - a different confederation as we are in Oceania).

We already know we can crack 8,000 with a good performance, and in finals we may be able to have regular 10,000 crowds. The business case for the future to examine is: will we lose money at a large stadium (Westpac) even with 10K? Would building a smaller rectangular stadium make us drop the attendances below the current 8,000? What is the sensitive point of cost vs earning capacity?

With all due respect etc etc;I did say if........and quite frankly its not for you or I to determine what goes  into the business case; I'm simply asking what's the process.

Introducing Mr.Stevens

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about 11 years ago

That was farken great!! I know you do get Domey on every so often but it would be great if you could get Domey on a couple of times a year for a third of the pod to field fan questions, keeping us posted and giving us some insight into the behind the scenes reality of the club that would be fantastic and a really great way for the club to communicate with the fans directly. I really like to hear a bit about the financial and political realities of the club the from the horses mouth. Also if Ernie can get on a couple more times that'd be cool...

Anyway top pod, even more so than usual.

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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about 11 years ago

Ernie would make a great Podcast, his dry sense of humour is an unexpected bonus for us.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 11 years ago

Hoping to get Ernie on next week. Stay tuned.

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about 11 years ago

Mr Stevens wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Mr Stevens wrote:
3. End of season YF vs Phoenix select 11 v 11?
There is no way, as long as Domes asshole points downwards, that this will ever happen. Put all your stock on the field in a game against supporters where it takes one guy to try relive his 'legend in my own mind' status as a quality footballer and put in the most agricultural tackle and mame someone. Then stand up and say 'well I was going for the ball'. You'd need rocks in your head to commit to that because there is no such thing as a friendly.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

5 v 5? Supporters' BBQ/Festa? FFS after 8 year's worth of support don't u reckon we're worth the recognition and a little thank u?

I didn't say we were not worth the recognition. I said if you owned the cattle, would you put them at risk...

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Hoping to get Ernie on next week. Stay tuned.

No Way! Major score if you do!

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 11 years ago

It's a shame that Football United wasn't a success. As a fan, I loved it.

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about 11 years ago

Great work as per guys, and thanks Thunder for fronting the (non) media!

E + R + O

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about 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Hoping to get Ernie on next week. Stay tuned.

Exciting. Since you are just giving me what I want can we also have Ifill on the pod... like all the time. Just every week or so.

Cheers.

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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about 11 years ago

Nice work guys, just heard the podcast referenced on The Mix 98.2 (in Auckland) during the news saying Domey said the timing of the cricket world cup was unbelievable. Coverage is spreading.

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about 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Mr Stevens wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Mr Stevens wrote:
3. End of season YF vs Phoenix select 11 v 11?
There is no way, as long as Domes asshole points downwards, that this will ever happen. Put all your stock on the field in a game against supporters where it takes one guy to try relive his 'legend in my own mind' status as a quality footballer and put in the most agricultural tackle and mame someone. Then stand up and say 'well I was going for the ball'. You'd need rocks in your head to commit to that because there is no such thing as a friendly.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

5 v 5? Supporters' BBQ/Festa? FFS after 8 year's worth of support don't u reckon we're worth the recognition and a little thank u?

I didn't say we were not worth the recognition. I said if you owned the cattle, would you put them at risk...

Make it a FIFA tournament on the Playstation or Xbox then.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 11 years ago

Rumney72R wrote:

Nice work guys, just heard the podcast referenced on The Mix 98.2 (in Auckland) during the news saying Domey said the timing of the cricket world cup was unbelievable. Coverage is spreading.

Yeah, heard on Radio Sport too - bluddy funny after the "don't talk to the media" thread on here (as mentioned on the poddy too), absolute crack up!
E + R + O

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about 11 years ago

Rumney72R wrote:

Nice work guys, just heard the podcast referenced on The Mix 98.2 (in Auckland) during the news saying Domey said the timing of the cricket world cup was unbelievable. Coverage is spreading.

 

Podcast is ruining New Zealand media. Just like the Phoenix are ruining the ASBP.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 11 years ago

Great pod

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about 11 years ago

We need to fast track Roly on the citizenship, this would be very helpful to get us to the 2018 World Cup. Phoenix has to bend some laws for the greater good of the country.

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about 11 years ago

for the last time, Roly can not play for the All Whites. he's played youth football for the Dutch.

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about 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

for the last time, Roly can not play for the All Whites. he's played youth football for the Dutch.

A-Rod on the other hand, can become an All White
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about 11 years ago

Correct

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