Wellington Phoenix Men

Nix v Everton

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Either of those names would be terrific, and attract far more than Davids. I'd also throw Dennis Bergkamp out there (if we can get him on the plane). Oska2009-03-04 17:30:31
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Lonegunmen wrote:
HN, Richard Johnson? I dont suppose Manure would let Ronaldo guest but what about the other Ronaldo??


You mean Sammy Blackburn....the ginger Ronaldo....?


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Shearer??   Even at his age and battered body, he'd fix our scoring issues.Lonegunmen2009-03-03 19:01:59
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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The comparison with the Auckland/Beckham game is not relevant.

The reasons for the failure of that game were -
 
1) Ridiculous ticket prices
 
2) Most of those interested had probably already seen Beckham in Wellington
 
3) Credit crunch / game near xmas
 
4) Game was played against an 'Oceania XI' that was basically a load of journeymen plus Karembeu and Davids, i.e. nobody actually cared about either team
 
 
The differences with this game could be -
 
a) Prices could be a little more realistic, no more than $60 in my opinion
 
b) there are PLENTY of Brits in town who would go to this game, including ex-pats, tourists, backpackers etc etc
 
c) game is nowhere near xmas but at the start of the season when people will be excited for the new season beginning - there could be new signings on both sides as well.
 
d) both teams actually have fans - some Everton fans will inevitably come over for the trip, Phoenix obviously have fans, and people will actually give a f**k about who wins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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i agree with jag.  it'd be amazing to see a EPL club live playing the nix and i dont question that any of us would go. However, we know football and would appreciate seeing everton play..i dont know if the rest of the non football fanatic public would be so keen to fork out $80-100 to go.
 
David Beckham, the biggest name in world football couldn't sell out Westpac stadium, and that was including all the schoolgirls who only went to see him and probably didn't even know there was a game of football on, lets be honest.
To make this match financially plausible we'd need to sell what? 25,000 tickets? (if everton only play two games on the tour) and im not totally convinced that we could sell 25,000.
i'd assume most football purists in the country came to beckham the first time and then you add the schoolgirl factor to that and they barely scraped 30,000 together.
to all of us everton >>>> beckham and the 'galaxy', but to most of the rest of the country beckham would be a far bigger attraction than a team who's best player won't be able to play anyway!
i guess im saying i dont trust the rest of the country to realise how big of a deal this would be and pack out the stadium.
francsernal2009-03-03 19:49:39
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I would buy 5 tickets for myself to see them play here no doubt.
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I don't like the idea of us having a guest player, however, if we did then it would be awesome to have Zidane, Kluivert, Kahn, Nelsen, or Brazillian Ronaldo.

A good idea I think is the FFA should get an A League first XI to play Everton.  That would attract a lot of interest and also mean Perth and us would split costs with the FFA.
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i'd quite enjoying booing fellaini
 
and watching Toffeeman and Big Dunc trying to fake 'mixed emotions'
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Great news, can't wait!

I think it should cost a max of $75 inc fees.
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b) there are PLENTY of AUSSIES in town who would go to see Cahill, including ex-pats, tourists, backpackers etc etc

Fixed :D

Seriously though, Cahill is very well known in Australia, especially since the World Cup. He's the best Socceroo there is. Good attendance figures will be guaranteed in Aus IMO.

Unlike here...
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I wonder how the timing would affect this...
 
By means of comparison, the Beckham game was in the middle of the regular season, momentum for the Phoneix was building and you got a ticket to the Adelaide game the night before with your Beckham ticket.
 
This game is slated for July...a week before the season proper, but also around the time the PSC will be underway.  It'd be great to see some sort of two-for-one deal - for e.g. buy a ticket to this game and get a ticket for the Phoenix v Gold Coast (apparently the the round two game in 2009/10)...or similar.
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For all those who keep writing about $100 tickets. Tony P said
If you have to make ticket prices $90 or $100, you're not going to get the people to do it.


Got that?


Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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tigers wrote:
i'd quite enjoying booing fellaini
 



ED!!!! 
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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I really think we would get a very good crowd to Nix versus Everton - sports fans of a whole range of sporting preferences know the English premiership and have heard of Everton and would jump at the chance to watch a top class side play.
 
What a great night out - come and watch "our team" play a top premiership side packed with internationals like French international Louis Saha, Nigerian internationals Joseph Yobo and ..., Portugese international Nuno Valente, Danish international ........
 
I don't think we'd get a "Beckham" crowd (32,000) but I do think we would crack 20,000.
 
Tony P was saying on the radio the all up cost of hosting Everton would be about $1.1m. Assuming 20,000 that's an average ticket price of $55. If half the crowd are adults and half kids that's prices of about $80 and $30 respectively - which sounds about right. Anything over 20,000 would be a financial bonus for the club.
 
What a brilliant way to launch the new season; sell season tickets and the new kit.
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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I love the title of this thread "Nix v Everton". Two great football names put so expertly together. I am surrounded by a warm glow. 
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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Get either Boban or Suker as the guest players.

If we can't get them, then go with Dave Cross. Great wide player.
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Hard News wrote:
Wide yes... Great ?


As a wall.
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Torne wrote:

Hard News wrote:
Wide yes... Great ?
As a wall.


Just nipped in ahead of me.
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Would Everton finishing 4th this season (still a possibility) and qualifying for the early rounds of the champions league not scupper this whole thing?
 
Would be interesting how some of the toffees on here would be feeling if it is looking like a go-er and the team are 2 points of 4th with 2 games to go......

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Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
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This honestly sounds like a terrible idea. The only reason LA Galaxy got such a big crowd is because of the circus that is Beckham. Outside of possibly Arteta and Cahill - who would draw the crowds? 

a.haak

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valeo wrote:
This honestly sounds like a terrible idea. The only reason LA Galaxy got such a big crowd is because of the circus that is Beckham. Outside of possibly Arteta and Cahill - who would draw the crowds?�




Who else?


chocnut2009-03-03 23:12:22
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valeo wrote:
. Outside of possibly Arteta and Cahill - who would draw the crowds? 


Howard, Hibbert, Osman, Yobo, Jagielka, Baines, Gosling, Neville, Fellaini, Saha, Pienaar,  Jo, Castillo, Nash, Lescott, Van der Meyde, Jacobsen.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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Whitby boy wrote:
 
Tony P was saying on the radio the all up cost of hosting Everton would be about $1.1m. Assuming 20,000 that's an average ticket price of $55. If half the crowd are adults and half kids that's prices of about $80 and $30 respectively - which sounds about right. Anything over 20,000 would be a financial bonus for the club.
 


I'd assume he meant covering Everton's costs.
There's then the cost of the stadium, ticketing, marketing, staff.........
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arteta will be injured if the game goes ahead im fairly sure.  you guys forgot gollum, it'd be awesome seeing a premiership  manager on the sidelines of the stadium.  but i think that list above proves the point being made, there is no real star on that list, no one thatd be able to draw a crowd of over 20,000 on their own.   francsernal2009-03-03 23:43:05
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Royal, have a listen to the radio, Tony P made it clear that was total costs for hosting the event.

I don't think one name is needed.  A group of known names and a Premier League club, added to the Phoenix fan base, the NZ football fan base, and folks that love an event makes me think 18-20k is reasonably achievable at a realistic price.

There are plenty of people in this country that wouldn't go near an A-League game (no, I don't understand it either) but would jump at the chance to see a Premier League side they watch each week on Television.


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Do you think Happy Ted would come along?
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I struggle to understand the attitude of many football fans in NZ.  For years people will get up in the middle of the night to watch matches, the are devoted to their sides even though many people have never seen them play live, they have a fantastic knowledge of the clubs, history, players, everything, they go out and get tattoos...and then when it is suggested that they might get to watch the team currently sixth, SIXTH in the premiership IN NEW ZEALAND for $50 or $60 they aren't willing to come along because they aren't a big enough name, or Everton don't have a "name" player.
 
I genuinely don't know what more Tony P and the Phoenix can be expected to do to get a Premiership Team here.  FFS people, get off your high horse and realise that this opportunity is not going to come around again.  It is genuinely unlikely that we will ever see a top half premiership side in NZ again.  Man up! 

Normo's coming home

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
completely misread what i was saying, if not everyone else.
i said that while all of us will go no doubt because of the reasons you mentioned, there is not even 5000 of us. if we only need 18-20000 to break even then we should do it easily, im just worried that if we rely on everton to attract 25000+ then it might turn out to be like beckham in auckland which is not what terry needs, a loss.
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Hard News wrote:
Royal, have a listen to the radio, Tony P made it clear that was total costs for hosting the event.

I don't think one name is needed.  A group of known names and a Premier League club, added to the Phoenix fan base, the NZ football fan base, and folks that love an event makes me think 18-20k is reasonably achievable at a realistic price.

There are plenty of people in this country that wouldn't go near an A-League game (no, I don't understand it either) but would jump at the chance to see a Premier League side they watch each week on Television.




Don't need to, you just told me
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Society must have changed. I'm not certain for the better either. Anyone remember when visits from good clubs were much more regular? I don't recall any discussion about star names or the financing it was simply a case of "hey do you see X FC are coming?"  followed by YES!!! and then the next question was "shall we meet up there or all go in together?". It was that simple.

James Dean's comments above are spot on.


Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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I went to see Spurs play at the basin and also QPR and also Sheffield United. I met Tony Currie, Glenn Hoddle and a lot of QPR players I already knew. I'm sure Luton and Swindon also visited but played only up in Auckland - probably against an Oceania lX.
 
Those were the days Dairyflat, when English teams came out here for their end of season tours (Not pre-season) to wind down.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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20000 would be a stretch I reckon..5000 everton fans plus 8000 Nix regulars plus another 5000 football supporters....Galaxy only worked first time cos it was Beckham and people came from all over the country.  Id cap my interest at $30...same price as any pre season game.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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Any chance of any Merseyside based Evertonian fans making the trip do you think?
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Is no one happy??? 80% of the posts have been negative! $80 if thats what it costs is about right - thats less then 30 quid which is  less than a lower Premier League team would charge at the gate.
 
Boro4eva - caps his interest at $30????? 10 quid to watch a Premier League team (with all the costs of them flying out etc etc) get out of dreamland, pull your finger out and live in the real world. This is NZ - this happens pre-phoenix once in a blue moon. If you don't get in behind it, things WON'T happen. Heck I would even pay that to see your Teeside Turnips, if it meant that football grew in this country and event like this become commonplace!
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Don't know what you're on, but most of the posters have said they would go to the game. Sorry I was negative, so what I should have posted was "f**k Yeah, Everton at the ROF? Man, that'll sell out 10 times over". Happy now?

I have said that I doubt that Everton would have enough pulling power to make it viable, but I'll be delighted if it goes ahead and will  be flying down to Welly to watch it if it does.
Jag2009-03-04 14:12:24

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Sorry News. I'll try again.

I think it's a f**king great idea. Everton are just the sort of top notch opposition that'll have the punters falling over themselves to get tickets. Why, I'd sell all 3 of my children just to pay for the flight down to see the game. I can't wait to see legends such as Timmy Cahill, Tim Howard and that bloke with the afro. Well done to all concerned for having the forseight and vision to investigate such a lucrative moneyspinner. Why not go the whole hog and invite Partick Thistle down at the same time and have a 3 sided tournament. That would be the icing on the cake.
 
Even if there's only 7000 of us diehard Nix fans, if we all buy 5 tickets each, the place is sold out. Easy as that.
 
That any better. I've had a long day!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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