Nix v New bling- match thread

Tut tut everyone, I choose Hibs as an example as it's the other team I watch most closely, but having players ahead of the ball is hardly unique to them and I'm not saying 'play like Hibs and everything will be fine'.

Ok, in some of the games we've played we could have played more attacking - when we've been dominating teams but unable to finish them off. But you shouldn't just play the same tactics against every team. Gold Coast are probably the best attacking team in the league. If we go there with trumpets and everyone charging forward, we could get destroyed. I'm confident we can win this one if we can defend well and tightly mark their danger men. Their defensive unit will let us have more chances that Central Coast Mariners did. I'm not saying play negative, but some caution against these guys might make sense.

We never failed!   We just absorbed the rebels.  (And then got rid of the stupid Scottish Hearts thing)

i believe that if we are going to loose by 1, we may as well loose by 3. We have to give it a go.

at least try new formations/personal, Herbert.

you also appear to believe that if a word starts with "l" and has one "o" in it, you might as well stick in another one for good measure

Should keep it tight away from home and try and play on the counter attack, especially against the leaders. This is the sort of game you DO take a draw from! Its the home games that need to be won.

                  Paston

How's that been working when we've only played it once - against Newcastle?

lol nice edit

wolfman2009-09-30 02:02:59

But Terry has also said something along the lines of the performance must still be there, or he must still be happy with the way Ricki and the team is going. I was one of those looks, more at the timing, rather than the extension itself.

Rubbish - mouthy expansion newbie  upstarts - let's treat them with the contempt they deserve. wolfman2009-10-01 03:04:48

Well we'll see what happens then wont we wolfman....

no I think If we maintain our defense from the last game, then we can hold them off, our attack will be more effecrtive against them too. Its just about taking chances. Daniel, Brown, Leo and Ifill are all getting good chances, but we just have to give Greenacre more ball.

If Daniel, Brown, Leo and Ifill put away the chances they have had (Maybe Ifill aside) then plenty on here won't be able to moan about Greenacre not geting ball

It was dismissed because it had been tried previously S2 i think, but maybe S1, and it was an absolute disaster.  Maybe with the new personnel it would work, but I do think it would either leave us exposed out wide, or short in the midfield.

Sorry, my point was depending on how it was played - if you have bertos in there somewhere, he would look to drift wide, so your down to 2 in the centre, then if you have Caceras/Daniel/Hearfield/ in there with Brown/Lia they aren't going to win you much ball in the middle, leaving a hole there.  If you have Brown and Lia both there, then suddenly we really have less/the same number of people getting forward as we do now.

In the end, I come back to the point that its not the formation, its how the formation is played.  4-2-3-1 (I agree, we aren't playing 4-3-3 no matter how often its repeated) is not inherently negative, just because in the pre game show lineup we have only one up front.

Nah, 3-5-2 wouldn't work for either (All Whites or Phoenix I mean). You have to have a very special breed of wide player to pull that off, and neither side has them.

Not to mention that as a formation,3-5-2 is largely discredited at the highest level. It is to easy to get in behind the defence out wide, and the team loses the overlapping fullback on attack, who can provide the extra numbers when you're moving forward.

The only way this could happen is if the back 3 is effectively a back 5, with the fullbacks having the licence to provide the extra numbers on attack occasionally. But personally think that's way too negative, and also unlikely that you would change to an unfamiliar formation on the eve of the most important game NZ is about to play in 27 years.el grapadura2009-09-30 19:20:54

Totally agree. Listened to Ryan Nelsen being interviewed this morning and whilst he said he'll play whatever formation RH deems fit on the 3-5-2 stuff he stressed the point that you don't just rock up on game day and introduce a new formation they take time to understand roles and for players to adapt to.

Its goina be great watching Siggy and Smeltz up against each other!!!!

did smeltz serve his ban for the red card last week or is he suspended this week?....according the the Fox sport fantasy football he is suspended this week.

hah - i just got that email too. i thought he had served his ban, but my fantasy team shows him as suspended.

He sat out last weeks' match (against melb I believe)

Yes, ban all finished.  Fox sports is run by Australians so no wonder they are a tad slow...

yea he is definitely back this weekend.

Gold Coast - $1.60
Wellington - $5.50
Darw - $3.40

$50 on the nix.

$50 on a draw!

Not any more.

I did send them an email earlier today complaining that it was incorrect. It's fixed now

That was the impression I got from Ricki's quotes.

Season 1, mainly because we didn't have a right back IIRC. Pretty sure it was Lochhead who shifted in to midfield.

Oska = post whore

double your money easily this weekend. phoenix +1 goal start. 2.15 100% positive it will happen

Centrebet auskiwi2009-10-01 23:26:53

That Nix clean sheet one is bizarre in comparison to the others. With GCU paying $1.50 to win,theyre damn confident about it...to do that they would have to knock a goal past us...which means no clean sheet. pretty random odds...they must think most likely outcome is 1-0 to GCU or 0-0