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Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA (Part 2)

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and fatter. 


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Hard News wrote:

fml.

May close this thread for the afternoon because just reading it is causing me to lose IQ points.

Please, please fudgeing stop.

You're right, we shouldn't question the club at all, they can do no wrong. If you don't like what's been written, don't read it mate.
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Napier Phoenix wrote:
Hard News wrote:

fml.

May close this thread for the afternoon because just reading it is causing me to lose IQ points.

Please, please fudgeing stop.

You're right, we shouldn't question the club at all, they can do no wrong. If you don't like what's been written, don't read it mate.

How exactly do you know whether you like what is being written until you read it?

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2ndBest wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Hard News wrote:

fml.

May close this thread for the afternoon because just reading it is causing me to lose IQ points.

Please, please fudgeing stop.

You're right, we shouldn't question the club at all, they can do no wrong. If you don't like what's been written, don't read it mate.

How exactly do you know whether you like what is being written until you read it?

Perhaps once you have read the thing you shouldn't have read because you didn't like it you can use quantum tunneling to shift the particles which constitute your physical form to another parallel universe where you did not read the offending posts? You could thus exist in a dual state where you have not read the posts but know that you don't like them. Of course there would exist in that universe a version of you which hasn't read the posts and doesn't know if he likes them or not. You would probably have to kill this version of you so that it didn't get too confusing

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Actually, that wouldn't work because the version of you which quanum tunneled would have read the posts regardless of which reality it was in.

Well, I give up. I'm stumped

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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2ndBest wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Hard News wrote:

fml.

May close this thread for the afternoon because just reading it is causing me to lose IQ points.

Please, please fudgeing stop.

You're right, we shouldn't question the club at all, they can do no wrong. If you don't like what's been written, don't read it mate.

How exactly do you know whether you like what is being written until you read it?

You look at who posted it first, then you'll probably know 


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FFS have i missed something again is it the off season already.


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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The Phoenx need to issue a press release before their fan group tears itself apart judging from this thread.

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Ryan wrote:

The Phoenx need to issue a press release before their fan group tears itself apart judging from this thread.

Dont you mean drink themselves into oblivion.Oh wait.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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This is some serious backtracking.

David Gallop wrote:

"We're talking to Wellington Phoenix, we think that there's a result that can be a win-win for both sides,"

"But we're not there yet, we've got to keep those talks going.

"We've said for some time that we're looking for a greater contribution from the Wellington Phoenix and from the other stakeholders in New Zealand.

"But at the same time we recognise the place they have in the A-League."

https://www.3news.co.nz/sport/ffa-confident-phoenix...

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they recognise the contribution we make yet 2 days ago write an article in the SMH not recognising our contribution to the fox TV deal. 


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The club is doing the right thing by not negotiating via the media.

It is the FFA who are looking bad with all the leaks.

The mistake the club made is not starting this process soon enough.

The license should have been sorted out before the season started.

Having all this happening with only four months to go is farcicial (farcical?)

Of course, that may have been a delay on the FFA's side.

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Bevan wrote:

The club is doing the right thing by not negotiating via the media.

It is the FFA who are looking bad with all the leaks.

The mistake the club made is not starting this process soon enough.

The license should have been sorted out before the season started.

Having all this happening with only four months to go is farcicial (farcical?)

Of course, that may have been a delay on the FFA's side.

this licence situation has been going on since the petone stadium was first mooted - has been going on for ages and i'm inclined to proportion more blame to the ffa than the nix
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Ryan wrote:

The Phoenx need to issue a press release before their fan group tears itself apart judging from this thread.

I recommend tearing ourselves apart into those who want to go back to the end of last season, and those who want to fast forward to the beginning of the next season

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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Bullion wrote:
Bevan wrote:

The club is doing the right thing by not negotiating via the media.

It is the FFA who are looking bad with all the leaks.

The mistake the club made is not starting this process soon enough.

The license should have been sorted out before the season started.

Having all this happening with only four months to go is farcicial (farcical?)

Of course, that may have been a delay on the FFA's side.

this licence situation has been going on since the petone stadium was first mooted - has been going on for ages and i'm inclined to proportion more blame to the ffa than the nix

I actually think that the reason that Welnix seemed to not support the Petone stadium idea in public after they first raised it was because it needed a 20 year license to be commercially viable, and the FFA told them they wouldn't grant one after the idea had been raised. Welnix probably wanted to stay onside so they didn't say anything publicly but that meant lots of us (myself included) didn't think they were doing enough to support the idea in public. In reality they knew it was dead in the water but didn't want to say why.

That's my theory anyway.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Mainland FC wrote:
Ryan wrote:

The Phoenx need to issue a press release before their fan group tears itself apart judging from this thread.

I recommend tearing ourselves apart into those who want to go back to the end of last season, and those who want to fast forward to the beginning of the next season

We should start threatening to kill each other. Then it becomes a life and death situation and we are allowed to care about it again.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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ConanTroutman wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Bevan wrote:

The club is doing the right thing by not negotiating via the media.

It is the FFA who are looking bad with all the leaks.

The mistake the club made is not starting this process soon enough.

The license should have been sorted out before the season started.

Having all this happening with only four months to go is farcicial (farcical?)

Of course, that may have been a delay on the FFA's side.

this licence situation has been going on since the petone stadium was first mooted - has been going on for ages and i'm inclined to proportion more blame to the ffa than the nix

I actually think that the reason that Welnix seemed to not support the Petone stadium idea in public after they first raised it was because it needed a 20 year license to be commercially viable, and the FFA told them they wouldn't grant one after the idea had been raised. Welnix probably wanted to stay onside so they didn't say anything publicly but that meant lots of us (myself included) didn't think they were doing enough to support the idea in public. In reality they knew it was dead in the water but didn't want to say why.

That's my theory anyway.

I thought I recognised Gallop as one of the Nimbys when I attended. That explains a lot.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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ConanTroutman wrote:
Mainland FC wrote:
Ryan wrote:

The Phoenx need to issue a press release before their fan group tears itself apart judging from this thread.

I recommend tearing ourselves apart into those who want to go back to the end of last season, and those who want to fast forward to the beginning of the next season

We should start threatening to kill each other. Then it becomes a life and death situation and we are allowed to care about it again.

Would add to an increase in IQ in NZ .... sorry I was hit on the head by a bus when I was 5.

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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The biggest atrocity about this Save The Nix campaign  is the misuse of ‘licence’ and ‘license’.

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2ndBest wrote:

The biggest atrocity about this Save The Nix campaign  is the misuse of ‘licence’ and ‘license’.

Would you care to educate us further?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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2ndBest wrote:

The biggest atrocity about this Save The Nix campaign  is the misuse of ‘licence’ and ‘license’.

Is their something wrong with how we have been using those words? 

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Licence is the noun. License is the verb.

So you are given a HAL licence. Which grants you a license to play. Or, James bond has a license to kill. But also needs a driver licence.

(Basically 'licence' is what the Nix are after).

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assuming those Sky stats are correct, on a per capita basis that would be 55K viewers in Aus for a game. Which doesn't take into account time zone difficulties of watching Phoenix away games (ie Perth).

Here are the rating in Aus for the latest round for comparison.

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It's all nonsence.

E + R + O

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No, it's a matter of principal.

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Olyroos fail to qualify for Rio. Possible funding implications for the FFA. Nothing really going well for them at the moment. Time for a change?
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2ndBest wrote:

Licence is the noun. License is the verb.

In Brit English. US English, it's license both ways.

/professional copyeditor


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2ndBest wrote:

ssuming those Sky stats are correct, on a per capita basis that would be 55K viewers in Aus for a game. Which doesn't take into account time zone difficulties of watching Phoenix away games (ie Perth).

Here are the rating in Aus for the latest round for comparison.

What should metrics for FOX is that we are only 2K less than MVCvBri,  4k less than PERvManCity. They would love to show only Sydney derby's, not going to happen.

Maybe it is not really our problem if they can't sell the product. A top cracker game like Victory vs Roar and only 42K viewers?

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Outpost wrote:

No, it's a matter of principal.

I really don't see how that effects us though

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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ConanTroutman wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Bevan wrote:

The club is doing the right thing by not negotiating via the media.

It is the FFA who are looking bad with all the leaks.

The mistake the club made is not starting this process soon enough.

The license should have been sorted out before the season started.

Having all this happening with only four months to go is farcicial (farcical?)

Of course, that may have been a delay on the FFA's side.

this licence situation has been going on since the petone stadium was first mooted - has been going on for ages and i'm inclined to proportion more blame to the ffa than the nix

I actually think that the reason that Welnix seemed to not support the Petone stadium idea in public after they first raised it was because it needed a 20 year license to be commercially viable, and the FFA told them they wouldn't grant one after the idea had been raised. Welnix probably wanted to stay onside so they didn't say anything publicly but that meant lots of us (myself included) didn't think they were doing enough to support the idea in public. In reality they knew it was dead in the water but didn't want to say why.

That's my theory anyway.

They were behind it, to the tune of $19 to $23 million.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/9964066/Deal-hinges-on-longer-contract-for-Phoenix

Morgan said it would be a long haul recouping his arena investment, which is why he would not invest without a 10-year A-league licence either.

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daily update for hepatitis: we still don't have a licence. 


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Tegal wrote:

daily update for hepatitis: we still don't have a licence. 

are we any closer?

Founder

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Feverish wrote:
Tegal wrote:

daily update for hepatitis: we still don't have a licence. 

are we any closer?


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Tegal wrote:

daily update for hepatitis: we still don't have a licence. 

No, its got to come from Rob.
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Bullion wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Bevan wrote:

The club is doing the right thing by not negotiating via the media.

It is the FFA who are looking bad with all the leaks.

The mistake the club made is not starting this process soon enough.

The license should have been sorted out before the season started.

Having all this happening with only four months to go is farcicial (farcical?)

Of course, that may have been a delay on the FFA's side.

this licence situation has been going on since the petone stadium was first mooted - has been going on for ages and i'm inclined to proportion more blame to the ffa than the nix

I actually think that the reason that Welnix seemed to not support the Petone stadium idea in public after they first raised it was because it needed a 20 year license to be commercially viable, and the FFA told them they wouldn't grant one after the idea had been raised. Welnix probably wanted to stay onside so they didn't say anything publicly but that meant lots of us (myself included) didn't think they were doing enough to support the idea in public. In reality they knew it was dead in the water but didn't want to say why.

That's my theory anyway.

They were behind it, to the tune of $19 to $23 million.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/9964066/Deal-hinges-on-longer-contract-for-Phoenix

Morgan said it would be a long haul recouping his arena investment, which is why he would not invest without a 10-year A-league licence either.

That was part of my point - they needed the license/licence to make it viable and they were told by the FFA they weren't going to get it so they gave up on the stadium idea for the time being at least. Remember there was a lot of misinformed criticism in the local media and idiot NIMBYs braying on about it and at the time it seemed like no one from WelNix or the club was publicly rebutting the stupidity

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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SurgeQld wrote:

It's all nonsence.

I think you mean nonce sense



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martinb wrote:
SurgeQld wrote:

It's all nonsence.

I think you mean nonce sense


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2ndBest wrote:

Licence is the noun. License is the verb.

So you are given a HAL licence. Which grants you a license to play. Or, James bond has a license to kill. But also needs a driver licence.

(Basically 'licence' is what the Nix are after).

FFA needs to license The Nix for 10+10 years.

The Nix will then have a licence for 20.

But so far FFA behaviour has been nothing but licentious.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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