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Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2012/13

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steve-O wrote:


We have to refresh that squad in the pre season and ideally bring in at least 4 new players.


Im inclined to think that we maybe need more and a full rebuild is in order. Certainly we probably need more than than just one creative midfielder as I cant see the Lia, brown combination continuing because if it does then sh*t we might need a new manager as well

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
paullt wrote:
Steve-O wrote:


We have to refresh that squad in the pre season and ideally bring in at least 4 new players.


Im inclined to think that we maybe need more and a full rebuild is in order. Certainly we probably need more than than just one creative midfielder as I cant see the Lia, brown combination continuing because if it does then sh*t we might need a new manager as well


One may hope.el grapadura2012-03-17 19:33:00
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Louis Fenton for yoof please
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Whitby boy wrote:
Steve-O wrote:


We have to refresh that squad in the pre season and ideally bring in at least 4 new players.
 
1. A striker
 
2. A creative midfielder
 
3. A left sided player; FB / Midfielder (Traore would have been perfect)
 
4. A DM or RB (to complement Manny)
 
All good enough for the starting 11. 
 
 
1 = import slot & $$$
2 = import slot & $$$
3 = Pantelis?
4 = import slot & $$$

We have the import slots available, but we won't have the money. We have a squad that should be able to compete for the top 6 spots next year, so I don't see the owners throwing cash at new players.
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
There is no point making the finals every year if you are not genuinely capable of winning it so more investment is required.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
paullt wrote:
playwithFire wrote:
Would rather take a punt on a foreign striker than sign Cazarine. I would even prefer Golgol to him. No Draper thanks - although what a strikeforce - Draper and Pavlovich.



Anyone with two goals in his name deserves a contract

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Pity he hasn't scored any yet.
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steve-O wrote:
There is no point making the finals every year


Damn right. Anything the Nix can actually achieve is clearly worthless.

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ryan's Rovers wrote:
Whitby boy wrote:
Steve-O wrote:


We have to refresh that squad in the pre season and ideally bring in at least 4 new players.
 
1. A striker
 
2. A creative midfielder
 
3. A left sided player; FB / Midfielder (Traore would have been perfect)
 
4. A DM or RB (to complement Manny)
 
All good enough for the starting 11. 
 
 
1 = import slot & $$$
2 = import slot & $$$
3 = Pantelis?
4 = import slot & $$$

We have the import slots available, but we won't have the money. We have a squad that should be able to compete for the top 6 spots next year, so I don't see the owners throwing cash at new players.
 
If my recollection is correct Gareth has stated that the full salary cap will be available for recruitment but they would not be throwing money at a marquee e.g. Kewell or Emerton.
 
With the full cap available, potentially 3 imports spots free and some very smart recruiting we should be able to fill those key positional vacancies with significantly better players than we currently have.
 
I don't know which, if any, of the Roar's imports is a marquee but delete any one of Berisha, Broich, Enrique, Adnan and Issey and look at the quality of the other 4 - recruited within the salary cap.
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Doloras wrote:

Steve-O wrote:
There is no point making the finals every year
Damn right. Anything the Nix can actually achieve is clearly worthless.


So you would be happy to keep getting to finals with a squad that's not good enough to win it? Me, I would rather we moved up a level but if you're happy to ALMOST win then good luck to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
would love to see draper back, just coz hes a kiwi kid. and can he be any worse than pav?? but i only want to see him back if hes good enough to start!
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
"I've got a spot on the wing waiting for you if you want it. Just say the word Fatty"
 
 
terminator_x2012-03-19 13:31:24

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I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steve-O wrote:
There is no point making the finals every year if you are not genuinely capable of winning it so more investment is required.

I have been happy with the consistency, and I'm sure being in the finals on a consistent basis is good for building a fan base and marketing revenue. Not sure if I would like the boom and bust cycle a lot of clubs in the HAL go through.
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
As long as you're in the finals, you're a chance.
 
Also remembering the
 
The aim should always be to win the league mind you, as everybody wears the same celery cap (except Melbourne, but they're sh*te)
 
This year was a bit of an exception, and it is quite amazing how well we have done considering the circumstances at the beginning of the season.
Tegal2012-03-19 14:11:30

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Not sure if Speculation is the right place to put this, but cant be bothered starting new thread.

With Gold Coast more than likely to be gone next season, is there a way we could take advantage of their successful youth team setup, and attach our club onto it?

Their youth team really should be kept if possible as it has been immensely successful, but what if the Phoenix were able to help contributing towards this team (still based in Gold Coast) and then have them as our youth team? We would be assisting the league, and it would save a lot of kids an uncertain future.

Then we would have the ability to pull some of those talents into our squad when needed.

Only issue for me would be the distance between travel between the two locations, and the need for young kiwis to be included.

But Im sure guys like Lindsay would be okay with being based in the Gold Coast every now and again.

Just an idea, without all the logistics thought through, but surely with such a successful system already in place, we should try and either take it over completely, or pick up any staff and knowledge of the current runnings of it?


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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Am sure Lindsay would still be able to take advantage of his sponsor perks despite being based in the Gold Coast! Tegal2012-03-19 16:12:10

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
terminator_x wrote:
"Creative attacking mid you say. Have you ever though about playing left fullback..."
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Fixed.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
playwithFire wrote:
Not sure if Speculation is the right place to put this, but cant be bothered starting new thread.

With Gold Coast more than likely to be gone next season, is there a way we could take advantage of their successful youth team setup, and attach our club onto it?

Their youth team really should be kept if possible as it has been immensely successful, but what if the Phoenix were able to help contributing towards this team (still based in Gold Coast) and then have them as our youth team? We would be assisting the league, and it would save a lot of kids an uncertain future.

Then we would have the ability to pull some of those talents into our squad when needed.

Only issue for me would be the distance between travel between the two locations, and the need for young kiwis to be included.

But Im sure guys like Lindsay would be okay with being based in the Gold Coast every now and again.

Just an idea, without all the logistics thought through, but surely with such a successful system already in place, we should try and either take it over completely, or pick up any staff and knowledge of the current runnings of it?


I like this. I've pondered the same before. Gold Coast Little Nixers.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

A bunch of kiwi lads on the hammer on the Gold Coast?  That's an end of season tour, not an academy.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:

A bunch of kiwi lads on the hammer on the Gold Coast?  That's an end of season tour, not an academy.

 
Sounds more like schoolies week.
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Gooner 4 Life wrote:
Hard News wrote:

A bunch of kiwi lads on the hammer on the Gold Coast?  That's an end of season tour, not an academy.

 
Sounds more like schoolies week.



This.Oh Noes.

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
terminator_x wrote:
"I've got a spot on the wing waiting for you if you want it. Just say the word Fatty"
 
 
 

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
paullt wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
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There are three KFC's within 5 minutes drive of our very impressive training facilities. Just say the word fatty!!
 
 
 
Fixed
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mitch Cooper....GC midfielder, 17 years old. Plays for Oz under 17.
 
Worth a youth spot at the Nix?
 
Apparently lived in NZ for 8 years....qualifies for NZ passport.
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

NZ Passport not an issue, unless you mean potential to play for All Whites?

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah I dont mind Cooper and Barker Daish. Level headed midfielders but a bit more dynamic than Lia & Brown.

Wouldn't mid them at all, although their chance at getting game time may be an issue


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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:

A bunch of kiwi lads on the hammer on the Gold Coast?� That's an end of season tour, not an academy.


Good thing they wont be on the hammer. The current academy kids seem to manage okay


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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:

Lindsay = Barker-Daish and Cooper but with the right nationhood.

Hmm he seems to be more of a holding midfielder / distributer whereas I'd see the GCU lads as guys who will push a little higher up the field and hold onto the ball a bit more.
Sounds like Cooper could have the right Nationhood if he wants


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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Getting Mitch Cooper ahead of other A-League clubs would be a bit of a coup, albeit not a huge one.
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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No thanks

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
http://www.skysport.co.nz/article/football/headlines/ffa-reminds-clubs-of-rules-58874/

"As the exit queue at Gold Coast United swells up, Football Federation Australia has stepped in to remind all A-League clubs that any approaches for their off-contract stars are to come through them.

In-form wing-back Daniel Bowles on Thursday signed with Adelaide, joining teammates Adama Traore (Melbourne Victory), James Brown (Newcastle) and Chris Harold (Perth) in a growing player exodus.

There will no doubt be more to follow, with the future of the embattled club still uncertain and all but a handful of players coming off-contract at the end of April."

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I want a fast GCU youth player!
Wel-nix geet me one!!! all the teams at school have one!
bu bu bu but you said we had the whole salary cap to play with...
I want the little indian one, barkerdaish?

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Lindsay, Rowe, Fenton >

They'd all be out injured with splinters from being benched before ever getting on the pitch
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