Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2012/13

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Not sure if Speculation is the right place to put this, but cant be bothered starting new thread.

With Gold Coast more than likely to be gone next season, is there a way we could take advantage of their successful youth team setup, and attach our club onto it?

Their youth team really should be kept if possible as it has been immensely successful, but what if the Phoenix were able to help contributing towards this team (still based in Gold Coast) and then have them as our youth team? We would be assisting the league, and it would save a lot of kids an uncertain future.

Then we would have the ability to pull some of those talents into our squad when needed.

Only issue for me would be the distance between travel between the two locations, and the need for young kiwis to be included.

But Im sure guys like Lindsay would be okay with being based in the Gold Coast every now and again.

Just an idea, without all the logistics thought through, but surely with such a successful system already in place, we should try and either take it over completely, or pick up any staff and knowledge of the current runnings of it?

Why don't we just sack the entire Nix team then hire the whole GC team and then re-sign Ifill, Durante, Siggy, Paston and Muscat.......

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Remember we had a player exodus when our future was unsure, But the core stayed.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The core had better be hard tomorrow.Send a message - step aside,here we come!!

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Surprised we didn't make a move for Bowles - has already showed more at right back than Hearfield or Lia ever has. Could've been a cheap fix to our chronic right back issue.valeo2012-03-24 20:03:58

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

valeo wrote:

Surprised we didn't make a move for Bowles - has already showed more at right back than Hearfield or Lia ever has. Could've been a cheap fix to our chronic right back issue.

Has the FFA signed off on a transfer or is a "yes i will transfer during the off season"

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

is cameron lindsay the only aleague contracted player to not see a minute this season?

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Pantelis will mnake it two. Culina makes it 3.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

bringbacksmeltz wrote:

is cameron lindsay the only aleague contracted player to not see a minute this season?

Surely some back up keepers haven't featured?

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Redmayne getting his first minutes tonight for Brisbane.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

11 new players please....and maybe a managerpaullt2012-03-25 20:16:29

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Whatever

COYN

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

paullt wrote:

11 new players please....and maybe a manager

Sure, that's really sensible.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

paullt wrote:

11 new players please....and maybe a manager

Sure, that's really sensible.

It worked for Victory and Adelaide didn't it? ...

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Ryan's Rovers wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

paullt wrote:

11 new players please....and maybe a manager

Sure, that's really sensible.

It worked for Victory and Adelaide didn't it? ...

sensible or not, the core of our team has remained constant and not very good..changes are needed

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

paullt wrote:

11 new players please....and maybe a manager

So you don't want Ifill, Manny, Siggy, Dura, Lochead, Sanchez or Smith?

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

CloneMM wrote:

paullt wrote:

11 new players please....and maybe a manager

So you don't want Ifill, Manny, Siggy, Dura, Lochead, Sanchez or Smith?

didnt say that..said i'd like 11 new players (squad and reserves included)

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

CloneMM wrote:

paullt wrote:

11 new players please....and maybe a manager

So you don't want Ifill, Manny, Siggy, Dura, Lochead, Sanchez or Smith?

KEEP:

Ifill, Manny, Siggy, Dura, Sanchez, Smith + Daniel, Bertos, Ward, Paston, Lia

DROP TO SUBS BENCH (NO LONGER TO START GAMES , JUST SQUAD PLAYERS):

Lochhead, Greenacre, Brown

AX:

Pavlovich, Warner (sign young NZ keeper or bring back Liam Reddy (unhappy at being 2nd choice at Sydney)

HAVEN'T SEEN ENOUGH TO FORM AN OPINION

(BUT POSSIBLY AX):

Tsattalios, Downey, Pantelis, Lindsay, Griffiths

Should sign at least 5/6 new capable first team players and clear out enough dead wood to make way...

Big Pete 652012-03-25 23:07:47

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Harsh on Lochead without a replacement.

Allegedly

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I reckon Pantelis deserves a shot at least! I rated him at Adelaide and reckon he could add another dimension to our attacks. A bit injury prone though

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Big Pete 65 wrote:

Pavlovich, Warner (sign young NZ keeper or bring back Liam Reddy (unhappy at being 2nd choice at Sydney)

There is a reason why he is number 2 at Sydney.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

del Piero is off contract with Juve at the end of this season. Lets get him as a marquee. Who wants to organise a bikini carwash to pay his wages?

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

We can bitch and moan about getting rid of Pav, but fact of matter he is here for next year, unless someone else wants him or he agrees to a release. It is called a contract!

As for caqlling for Pantelis to be dropeed? WTF? At least give the guy a chance to get on the pitch.

Lochhead has his limitations going forward at times, and at times he is close to our best attacking option going forward. But he does give our back four an air of solidity. He is also locked in for next year, and in the absence of something better coming out of the woodwork will continue to command a regular place.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Pantelis was flash in preseason, well the bits I saw.

We cant drop Pav, although we can split ways on mutual consent, if Ricki were to tell him that he wasnt going to get any game time next year, then maybe he would prefer to seek playing time somewhere else.

Im not sure on Ward. He is a good squad player really, versatile, but a bit erratic and inconsistent - Smith is better, but unfortunately an improt.

I have also come to the realisation that with Ricki as coach, we are never going to have an attacking midfielder, well not of the classic number 10 creative type anyway.

Sanchez has to go, simply because we arent using him right, he needs to be in behind one or two strikers to really operate. And with Ricki as coach next year, I just cant see him getting a real shot in that role.

Just got to wait till the 2013/14 season when we potentially get a new coach to come in and do a bit of a clear out and stamp in a new policy.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sack Ricki? You're joking.

Allegedly

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

I think Smith should be signed and played - put your best players in their best positions (that applies across the board).

Apart from that i cant disagree with anything else here.

chuckywolf2012-03-26 12:23:32

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeah, course he has to go , I mean he has only taken a "unfancied" club to the Finals for the last three years, a feat not achieved by any other club / coach, despite having major constraints on funding and staffing. Of course he should be top of the list to be given the arse

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

But..but...He hasn't played the amazing cameron lindsay, and therefore has to go.

Allegedly

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

always somebody waiting to voice their support for mediocrity

rojas, so special

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

But by that logic, 9 managers should be sacked at the end of the season, because they didn't win the league.

Allegedly

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

bringbacksmeltz wrote:

always somebody waiting to voice their support for mediocrity

Always somebody waiting to make there voice heard for the sake of it

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Big Pete 65 wrote:

Ifill, Manny, Siggy, Dura, Sanchez, Smith + Daniel, Bertos, Ward, Paston, Lia
DROP TO SUBS BENCH (NO LONGER TO START GAMES , JUST SQUAD PLAYERS):Lochhead, Greenacre, Brown

It's probably better to wait till after the finals but just remember that the players you list are probably the majority of the salary cap and include every import slot available. If you keep all those players, leaving aside any youth player excelling unexpectedly, you are not going to improve the team.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

bringbacksmeltz wrote:

always somebody waiting to voice their support for mediocrity

Always someone who seems to believe that "mediocrity" can be avoided by an effort of will; and that disaster is better than mediocrity.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If mediocrity is three successive finals campaigns.... bring it on

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think this whole attitude is the "great Kiwi knocking shop" attitude. Anything from NZ sucks because it's from NZ. No achievement is good enough for anything in NZ - it must be criticised. Compare this to, say, the Melbourne Irony, who somehow come 8th and are considered "the best team in the league" by commentators and fans.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

We need to get an aura first.

"Phoenix till they lose"

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

WP Twitter:
Significant player announcement to be made at approx.3.30pm on Phoenix website. Stay tuned. #halwpsyd

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Ifill has re-signed, Manny has re-signed, Durante has re-signed.

I'm thinking maybe Sanchez, Smith or Greenacre announce something significant?

Unless we have picked someone up???

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wellington Phoenix?@WgtnPhoenixFC

Significant player announcement to be made at approx.3.30pm on Phoenix website. Stay tuned. #halwpsyd

Hmmm what will that be

Danni re-signed???

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

SBW tries his hand at football, signs with the Nix with options to box, play for the ABs and league. Golf also a long-term option.

Edit: Ricki said: "We felt like we just needed an aura. Now we've got one."

Junior822012-03-26 15:05:23

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think Sanchez makes sense as they were supposed to be negotiating with him earlier in the year.

I would love if we somehow signed someone up now though. Killen quits asia... wins playoffs for nix

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