Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2012/13

Don't agree on Musa, Fulham see the potential. I think he's going to be another Winston Reid.

Musa was around when we didn't have an academy etc. he was behind the long time solid pairing of dura and siggy. Just bad timing for him. He was hardly amazing when he did get the odd opportunity. Hope he kicks on at Fulham. 

 I know Jacks old man relatively well. I think that boat has sailed primarily due to getting jerked around at Waitakere.

Yeah, I meant mostly in relation to the Fulham and Musa comment - being in the reserves of a Premiership club doesn't mean that great things necessarily follow.

especially when you're only on a half season contract

the jury will be in very shortly

I know - I'm just adding some social commentary.

Come on - a Premiership team wouldn't even pick you for their Under 21 reserves if they didn't see potential. Remember they can choose from a huge pool in Britain. I think RH once again dropped the ball there, I even think Musa could have made a better fist of what Leo Bertos is now being asked to do, against his natural instincts. Musa certainly looked good in his stint at TW.

EG didn't say he didn't have potential TB, he just said great things don't necessarily follow from being in a prem reserve/age grade side. Very different arguments...

He's basically on a trial, he hasn't earned a real contract yet. Good luck to him and I hope he succeeds but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Fair point. My limited knowledge from watching him in TW showed he had real potential. perhaps it was an attitude thing with Ricki. Anyway I do hope Musa kicks on and establishes a professional career in Britain. Likewise Howieson and Payne. We're going to need them for the next generation in the AWs. I think Ian Hogg would have made a good wing back for the Phoenix.

I don't think Hogg is better than Lochhead or Rowe (not necessarily worse), and as we have two of the three main contenders for an AWs spot there isn't really room for him.

With all this talent in NZ and a new TV deal being announced today maybe its time to look seriously at a second NZ A-League franchise?

I'm sure the AFC would love to have another NZ team in the competition.  Lol not sure you meant to open that debate again T_X?

Yet another step forward 4 da game 2day. It has stretched across the ditch as we join the pursuit 4 Beckham 2 Wellington #aleague#Beckham

Can I bet $1 with you at those odds? We sign him,you pay me $50,000. We don't sign him,I give you a dollar. 

Can't see the FFA stumping up cash for us, only for beckham to play most of the games in NZ.

Um. It'd be in a different city. A second team would increase total spectators at A league clubs. It wouldn't decrease the nix crowds at all,if anything they'd increase due to a nz derby game being played 6 times a year. 

Think its would be more to do with Sky money.

Having 1 kiwi team in competition offers the FFA a whole extra revenue stream. Adding more teams from NZ wont be adding a lot more in terms of money they get from sky.

And why would they choose another NZ city when they have other bids sitting in their own backyard?

Yeah I agree. Maybe in the future they may think a nz rivalry would raise interest in the league over here, but at the moment a second team in nz would be well down their priority list. 

Only now has the NRL even begun to consider it. 

Lowry saying today no expansion the end of the new TV deal (2017)

I think there is definately room for a second New Zealaland franchise and that it would appeal to FFA.

The season is too short, and adding another team to the competition will help to alleviate this issue, whilst also provide New Zealand and Australian companies greater sponsohip exposure through additional television coverage.

Secondly, rivalries create bigger crowds and more hype and publicity which will help to promote the game and the league here in NZ / Aus but also abroad.

Also, i would argue that New Zealand now has sufficient talent to run a second competative team, whereas previously this may have not been the case. There are a lot of talented NZ footballers who could potentially play pro or move into the A League from lower level comps.

For example, Spoonly, Rowe, Mulligan, Clapham, Chettleburgh, Ryan Thomas who are all playing amatuer here in NZ and have the potential to step up or be given a second chance.

I think your maths is a little off there Tegal.

Christchurch team plz

3 + 3 = 6 

At least that's what my calculator says.  Maybe it needs new batteries.

EDIT: nope, changed the batteries and it still says 6. 

Turn it upside down: 9=E+E

Another goody for young students: type 5318008 into your calculator, turn upside down, snigger, press AC when the teacher comes over.

Sydney has 4.5 million people, will be interesting how the 2 teams go. Hamilton to Auckland has maybe 1.5 million could that area support a team better than in the past.