Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2012/13

it would be great for NZ if it was the case. Although teams with ACL would still have to count kiwis as foreigners.

Hmm when can we find out about the Nix in the ACL/ OCL?

I would prefer OCL because it makes more sense. 

We wouldn't be able to field a team in the ACL and I don't want it to change our recruitment policy. On the other hand if we joined Asia...

difficult to be eligable for either, we play in an asian leage, so logically if we won that league we should qualify for the ACL, trouble with this is that our Kiwi's would suddenly be foreigners and half our team would be ineligable. Solution - have all players registered as Australians if we make the ACL criteria. Playing in the OCL would just be a farce, how would we qualify? by winning the A-League?

OCL would simply be by entering the group stages by default. Or having a preseason comp against another team that's trying to qualify. Not that easy, but we have to be eligble to play in one or the either

I'm actually in favour of this suggestion, but it would have kinks that'd need tweaking, and, as was stated before, it was the rule.

Joining Asia wont be happening. All there is to be gained from joining Asia would be the possibility of Nix playing ACL, the AWs playing in the Asia cup in place of Oceania cup, and harder qualification births for World Cups, Confeds cup, and Olympics. NZF football maintain there are more benefits to staying in Oceania than there are moving to Asia. We'd be playing more WC qualification matches, but we wouldnt be playing anymore friendlies ($$$). And what would the cost be of playing more of these WC qual games anyway? Id imagine it to be huge.

Cannot see Nix joining ACL ever. Cant see FFA changing their import rules to suit a Kiwi outfit which could ultimately see an Aussie club lose a place in the ACL.

so essentially if/when we win the A-league the FFA is going to ahve an almighty fight on it's hands.....winning gives us the right to play in the ACL - this will open up an huge can of worms which the FFA and NZFA are not ready for.

AFC have confirmed we aren't eligible.  Thus no can to open.

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I imagine it'd open the debate again. But only for about 5 minutes. Neither option can really work. Even if we were given eligibility to qualify, we'd have too many foreigners (they are not going to bend the rules for us in that regard).

For Oceania, I don't see how we could qualify for it. We could possibly be given automatic entry, but that hardly seems fair. I also don't see how that benefits Oceania. Or the Phoenix for that matter. 

Not really phoenix, but Warner looks like he is about to sign for Floriana in Malta

 Isn't there a 'where are they now' thread?

Couldn't find it.

so what's the point of it all, we can win the league but not qualify for a club championship - that seems a little unfair to me and defeats a big part of winning it all.

 At this stage, I would be happy with just winning the league.

 When it gets to that point, then we can argue the case with FIFA about a rule change.

I suppose, but a big motivation for winning the league is the qualification to the ACL, the aussie players would be looking forward to that.

Would prefer it if we knew our chance of O-League sooner than later. 

FIFA should have a pathway for every pro/semi-pro club in the world to play in the club world cup... surely we can be eligible in the O-League

No chance.

We're an FFA registered team.

We have to be eligble for the Club World Cup.

Can we register the Phoenix as a NZF team as well as an FFA team?

unlikely, it's a shame really, but I guess it is the drama of a team based in on confederation playing in another conferation's tournament.

I'd say a major motivation for winning the league,is winning the league - not qualification to some tournament. Ask any player and they won't respond with "yeah I really want to qualify for the ACL" they'll say "yeah I really need a new toilet seat"

I agree with you Tegal. ACL qualification is an added bonus to doing well in the league, rather than the aim.

Would also be nice and complementing the other code in this country for us to have a toilet seat while they compete to have a log.

I was gonna speculate about whether we should have a crack at getting Harry but it seems I'm in the wrong thread...

(kidding).

We do have a long term injury replacement slot open for Pantelis. I think we should look at getting another wide midfielder, but I just don't think there is any decent Aussies/Kiwis that are available.

I personally think we are crying out for a central midfielder.

Did someone say Dan Keat?

Its a shame Sanchez is injured.

who would you drop?

Yeah I'd back Tom Biss or one of the young guns over Dan Keat.

I'd love to see him competing with smith for that central midfield position. I was really looking forward to that once I heard tim brown was leaving. 

I'd have to agree with this, however it does seem a lot of the time that the midfielders have instructions not to come to far forward of the halfway line and this may be what our problem is. They may not be under any orders of course but Smith was brought in as an attacking Midfielder but seems reluctant to do this............