I was looking more at the way forward but you are entitled to view it as you do.
Yeah that's where you went with it eventually but you still said the blinkers have come off for some people, which really was just you saying everyone is finally agreeing with you.
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Didn't someone say that Boxall was looking at options away from the club? Was that just to get a loan or to actually leave? I would have thought he was suitable CB cover, Siggy and Dura just stayed fit a lot.
I'm a big fan of Siggy but I totally agree he sucked dead puppies through a straw this season. And JV should in future remember something about glass houses and stones when he tells me off for twisting facts to make myself right. :)
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I think we missed the work rate of Tim Brown in front of the back 4 this season. Although Dura and Siggy were below their best, at times everyone was streaming through our nonexistent midfield. Makes the job a lot harder! Boxall was on a hiding to nothing in the limited chances he got for the same reason and also back combinations take time to click so the odd game here and there isn't really a fair reflection of his ability.
Sorry if this starts the usual resulting 10 page discussion, but Our midfield was just as infuriatingly bad and empty with Tim brown in it.
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Sorry if this starts the usual resulting 10 page discussion, but Our midfield was just as infuriatingly bad and empty with Tim brown in it.
Sorry if this starts the usual resulting 10 page discussion, but Our midfield was just as infuriatingly bad and empty with Tim brown in it.
Sorry if this starts the usual resulting 10 page discussion, but Our midfield was just as infuriatingly bad and empty with Tim brown in it.
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Sorry if this starts the usual resulting 10 page discussion, but Our midfield was just as infuriatingly bad and empty with Tim brown in it.
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I'm a big fan of Siggy but I totally agree he sucked dead puppies through a straw this season. And JV should in future remember something about glass houses and stones when he tells me off for twisting facts to make myself right. :)
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Yeah that's where you went with it eventually but you still said the blinkers have come off for some people, which really was just you saying everyone is finally agreeing with you.
People have realised that as much as he is tenacious, he is technically deficient, more so on the ball. I know late in the year season there was a call for Boxall because he is better on the ball and I think more so, would have been inclined to hold the line and not rush out. I do wonder what he plans to do with Sigmund because I don't think he can turn him into a technically better footballer. Perhaps discipline and positional awareness?
Essentially, if you are not named Muscat or Durante, you probably should be worried if you are a defender under Merricks regime. In some respects Pedi Bojic would be nice but you bring a massive headcase into the mix and why would he come here?
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Yeah that's where you went with it eventually but you still said the blinkers have come off for some people, which really was just you saying everyone is finally agreeing with you.
People have realised that as much as he is tenacious, he is technically deficient, more so on the ball. I know late in the year season there was a call for Boxall because he is better on the ball and I think more so, would have been inclined to hold the line and not rush out. I do wonder what he plans to do with Sigmund because I don't think he can turn him into a technically better footballer. Perhaps discipline and positional awareness?
Essentially, if you are not named Muscat or Durante, you probably should be worried if you are a defender under Merricks regime. In some respects Pedi Bojic would be nice but you bring a massive headcase into the mix and why would he come here?
I believe Bojic is going to Sydney.
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Yeah that's where you went with it eventually but you still said the blinkers have come off for some people, which really was just you saying everyone is finally agreeing with you.
People have realised that as much as he is tenacious, he is technically deficient, more so on the ball. I know late in the year season there was a call for Boxall because he is better on the ball and I think more so, would have been inclined to hold the line and not rush out. I do wonder what he plans to do with Sigmund because I don't think he can turn him into a technically better footballer. Perhaps discipline and positional awareness?
Essentially, if you are not named Muscat or Durante, you probably should be worried if you are a defender under Merricks regime. In some respects Pedi Bojic would be nice but you bring a massive headcase into the mix and why would he come here?
I believe Bojic is going to Sydney.
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Yeah that's where you went with it eventually but you still said the blinkers have come off for some people, which really was just you saying everyone is finally agreeing with you.
People have realised that as much as he is tenacious, he is technically deficient, more so on the ball. I know late in the year season there was a call for Boxall because he is better on the ball and I think more so, would have been inclined to hold the line and not rush out. I do wonder what he plans to do with Sigmund because I don't think he can turn him into a technically better footballer. Perhaps discipline and positional awareness?
Essentially, if you are not named Muscat or Durante, you probably should be worried if you are a defender under Merricks regime. In some respects Pedi Bojic would be nice but you bring a massive headcase into the mix and why would he come here?
None of us have really seen enough of Boxall to know if he is a step up on Siggy or not. He was good against Heart I remember, but all at sea in a couple of other appearances, admittedly in a team which was itself all at sea. There does seem to be a slight obsession with Siggy having let us down because he kept rushing out of the line, actually one of the key factors of his game which saw him top intercept stats in the two previous seasons and helped make him such an effective defender. Clearly Ricki wanted him to continue doing this last season, or at least didn't tell him not to, a coaching failure on Ricki's part, one amongst many unfortunately. The point being that this should be easily rectified by a new coach with a fresh viewpoint.
Anyway, I'm not worried about Siggy. He will either sink or swim under Ernie and I know what my money's on.
Probably why Ernie wants another CB....
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Bojic to Sydney up in the air now. Phoenix to swoop?
I think we missed the work rate of Tim Brown in front of the back 4 this season. Although Dura and Siggy were below their best, at times everyone was streaming through our nonexistent midfield. Makes the job a lot harder! Boxall was on a hiding to nothing in the limited chances he got for the same reason and also back combinations take time to click so the odd game here and there isn't really a fair reflection of his ability.
I think Boxall looks good technically, reasonably strong, reasonably quick, and a good reader of the game. The only downside I can see is that I think central defenders work best as a complementary pairing (which is part of why Dura and Siggy worked so well in previous seasons) and Boxall strikes me as the same sort of CB as Dura, albeit less experienced and confident at this stage. Siggy would complement Boxall better than Dura would, but Siggy was clearly the weaker member of our central defensive pairing last season so you would think if we are dropping one of our starting centrebacks it would be him.
However, Ernie has said he wants to play with fullbacks effectively acting as wingers and 4 creative attacking players. If you want to play with your fullbacks bombing forward on attack then you need at least one defensively solid holding midfielder, possibly 2, who can cover and slow down counterattacks if you lose possession with your fullbacks far up the pitch. Therefore there might be potential for either Dura or Boxall to pop into a DM role to screen the defenders and cover the inevitable open space caused by having attacking fullbacks. I wouldn't want both Muscat and one of Boxall or Dura as a DM pairing because I would doubt their ability to distribute the ball to those attacking players. But I do think that Manny could be an effective attacking fullback - he's got a decent cross on him and has played the role a fair bit under Ricki anyway (although maybe not as attacking as Ernie is planning). So if Manny is at RB then I think Boxall or Dura at DM plus a ball-playing deep lying midfielder (Simon Ellliott from 4 years ago would be perfect) could be effective. The key being, of course, to find that deep lying distributing ball-playing midfielder...
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I think the reason perhaps why there is talk is because Merrick raised this as a position we need a player. Coupled with the fact the Phoenix have allowed Boxall to go to China to trial (I read on here) and is out on loan, doesn't bode well for him staying around. I am just speculating of course
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I also think the owners would let durante go on trial in china if they thought they would get some coin from it so I wouldn't read much into that. Pre Merricks time anyway
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I don't know his words sorry. I'm going on what was mentioned on here
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He said he likes RB and LB to be pretty much wingers. "Bye Bye Lochy..PLEASE ! don't let me go...."
I also think the owners would let durante go on trial in china if they thought they would get some coin from it so I wouldn't read much into that. Pre Merricks time anyway
I don't know his words sorry. I'm going on what was mentioned on here
You should no better than "going what was mentioned on here".
Most of it is uneducated guesswork at best.
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I don't know his words sorry. I'm going on what was mentioned on here
You should no better than "going what was mentioned on here".
Most of it is uneducated guesswork at best.
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I don't know his words sorry. I'm going on what was mentioned on here
You should no better than "going what was mentioned on here".
Most of it is uneducated guesswork at best.
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In the interview he was talking about 3 or 4 of the seven players he could sign being starters, two midfielders to improve transition out of sight, one fast striker and, "ideally" I think was his wording, also a strong defender. The new defender seemed to be last on his list of new starter priorities, though I guess all that can change depending on who becomes available. The impression I got was he felt he could live with our current back four and their back-ups, if he had to, but if the budget and the players available to sign allowed he'd also take on a strong starting defender. My guess from everything else he said about attacking full backs was it would be in that area he might prefer to move. But it was unclear. But no, he did not say centre back or go further than simply saying "strong defender". That's my recollection of the interview.
I'm picking a right back who can cover centre back or vice versa. Apparently the club have signed Rowe and Lochead and Hogg are options so don't think the left hand side is an issue. Also think Lochy will go and Merrick will put faith in Hogg/Rowe
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Sorry if this starts the usual resulting 10 page discussion, but Our midfield was just as infuriatingly bad and empty with Tim brown in it.
yep
and yet....
I'm picking a right back who can cover centre back or vice versa. Apparently the club have signed Rowe and Lochead and Hogg are options so don't think the left hand side is an issue. Also think Lochy will go and Merrick will put faith in Hogg/Rowe
yikes. Has no-one been watching the pattern over the last few seasons? We hate on Lochy like a mofo, then he gets injured and we leak goals down the left (see Ibini v Hogg, etc etc). This kinda feels like Browny all over again. A lot of hating, then he's gone cue rejoicing and we're totally and absolutely pants instead of just pants.
I know Leggy doesn't rate Lochy, but I'd want to see a starter to replace him and at the moment neither Hogg or Rowe can command a starting position at left back.
Siggie had his worst season for the 'Nix, but so did Dura. As some have pointed out prior to that our team has been one of the best in the league for defence on a couple of occasions. Don't think it's only Siggie that is the problem. Which is why it's reasuring that Merrick is talking about some serious rebuilding. Hope he has better luck getting his targets than Ricki.
Would also be unhappy if we lose Boxall. But then the new coach needs to be happy with his players, and his ability to attract players was one of the reasons why he was signed, not his ability to develop NZ talent.
I'm picking a right back who can cover centre back or vice versa. Apparently the club have signed Rowe and Lochead and Hogg are options so don't think the left hand side is an issue. Also think Lochy will go and Merrick will put faith in Hogg/Rowe
yikes. Has no-one been watching the pattern over the last few seasons? We hate on Lochy like a mofo, then he gets injured and we leak goals down the left (see Ibini v Hogg, etc etc). This kinda feels like Browny all over again. A lot of hating, then he's gone cue rejoicing and we're totally and absolutely pants instead of just pants.
I know Leggy doesn't rate Lochy, but I'd want to see a starter to replace him and at the moment neither Hogg or Rowe can command a starting position at left back.
I don't, but I would play him if there was nobody else. When he is playing at his best then he is OK.
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Wonder how Lochhead's injury is going? He's got a bit of a history of them as well so wouldnt be surprised if its a drawn out recovery
Hopefully we'll see a more professional approach to underperformance in the first team with Ernie. Sigmund should have been dropped for Boxall last season for eg... etc etc
Siggie had his worst season for the 'Nix, but so did Dura. As some have pointed out prior to that our team has been one of the best in the league for defence on a couple of occasions. Don't think it's only Siggie that is the problem. Which is why it's reasuring that Merrick is talking about some serious rebuilding. Hope he has better luck getting his targets than Ricki.
Would also be unhappy if we lose Boxall. But then the new coach needs to be happy with his players, and his ability to attract players was one of the reasons why he was signed, not his ability to develop NZ talent.
I reckon his ability to develop players (plus 'overseeing' FSE/academy structure - unanswered question?) was a big part of why he was signed.
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