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Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 2)

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almost 16 years ago · edited about 5 years ago · History
Article here mentions Phoenix are interested in Clapham (has this been raised before?)
 
 
"Joining the camp will be Canterbury midfielder Aaron Clapham - a player Wellington Phoenix have also been tracking."
 
I like us giving guys from the NZFC a crack if they're good enough (Siggy, Coralles and Krishna having trials etc.) as it shows the pathway for young kids. And makes those ACFC knitting circle folks keep quiet about the purpose of the Nix etc.
Paulinho2010-04-20 15:48:41
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almost 16 years ago · edited about 5 years ago · History
Clapham had been training with the Nix the previous season, played in some friendlies too (notably the 3-0 loss to TWs).
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And isn't he a wide midfielder? Cos if we buy another one of those I will inflict some serious self harm.

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He pretty much has a free licence as an attacking mid with Canterbury.

In the Nix friendly against TWs, he played right back first half (awful), and then in the middle in the second half (looked decent, but at a time when both teams made wholesale changes). Looked decent for Canterbury against TWs in Porirua a few weeks back, but I thought Barron looked much better than Clapham in that game.

But Clapham's obviously done well throughout the course of the season, so he deserves the look-in he's getting now. But even if signed by the Nix, don't think he has the quality right now to be anywhere near a starting place.
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I think we must bear in mind one significant fact. Apart from seasoned professional players, it is quite possible to change position to younger, less experienced new players.

Look at Manny. Did he play holding CM for Green Gully? Don't think so. Same for Lia and Hearfield.

So I think, if we sign a player (especially a younger one) from the NZFC or NSW or VPL et cetera, we shouldn't give too much credit to their "usual" position.

Surely we won't buy a keeper and turn him into a winger, but I think you can catch my drift. I reckon Ricky and Luciano know so much about football to find out quite quickly what positions one player may cover best at the Phoenix.

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Look at Manny. Did he play holding CM for Green Gully? Don't think so. Same for Lia.

This from Manny's Phoenix website: "A versatile defender who has excelled in the Victorian Premier League, Muscat adds even more pace and skill on the Phoenix�s flanks. Has the ability to play on both sides at the back and has played regularly as a defensive midfielder with Green Gully."

And I am sure that CM has always been Lia's preferred position.
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Doesnt Danny Invincible come off contract at Kilmarnock at the end of the season?


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Ask Old if he's any good. His name alone would be worth it, really. (even if it isn't pronounced like it's spelt)valeo2010-04-21 02:56:16

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valeo wrote:
Ask Old if he's any good. His name alone would be worth it, really. (even if it isn't pronounced like it's spelt)


Pronounced "In-vinch-e-bee-lay"

Find an Italian to do it for you.
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gings wrote:
Doesnt Danny Invincible come off contract at Kilmarnock at the end of the season?


He's historically been looked with the Raw (like, EVERY season) am assuming he's from that neck of the woods... who knows. I'd buy a shirt tho!


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Agreed. He's not quite there yet but has a huge amount of potential, I think. Is one of the fastest players in the league as well but doesn't get to show it too often playing at DM.

Though I did think he was younger than 23..

I think he'll stay with the Reds, though..valeo2010-04-21 12:45:12

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almost 16 years ago · edited about 5 years ago · History
Should be able to afford him with Ferrante and Mulligan gone.  Get him long term and let Diego go once his contract expires.

Also could bring another Adelaide player in Barbeiro, who I think is coming off contract.
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We need a striker, a creative midfielder and youth spot fillers before we think about adding another player in a position where we have three regular starters already.

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Hard News wrote:
We need a striker, a creative midfielder and youth spot fillers before we think about adding another player in a position where we have three regular starters already.

That is correct (not sure if Marrone suits playing further up the pitch), but should always be looking at improving your squad especially if their is an opportunity to.
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Creative Midfielder is key, we need someone with defence splitting passing abilities...which we have never had. I don't dive in here often, but this is always my one biggest request of the phoenix, bring me the A-League version of FABREGAS!
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Maybe Diego will be good next season...


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valeo wrote:
Ask Old if he's any good. His name alone would be worth it, really. (even if it isn't pronounced like it's spelt)


Agreed, I was thinking he'd be good just to give the media a hand with headlines. He may be too similar to greenacre though


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Hard News wrote:
We need a striker, a creative midfielder and youth spot fillers before we think about adding another player in a position where we have three regular starters already.
Left back cover would be useful as well.
You know we belong together...

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True, but if that player also covers CM (where we currently have Diego and McKain, neither of whom are the most useful cover), it would be very useful.

You know we belong together...

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brumbys wrote:
Creative Midfielder is key, we need someone with defence splitting passing abilities...which we have never had. I don't dive in here often, but this is always my one biggest request of the phoenix, bring me the A-League version of FABREGAS!


Are there many of these in the A league, at all? Not of Fabregas quality, but even of the type you describe.

I don't pay enough attention to the other A-league teams to know if they exist or not (Miller and Hernandez being the exceptions)

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Corica when he was playing was another

Culina at times

a.haak

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I'd love Dodd from Adelaide...  Would add some speed to our attack.
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Mr Adelaide United? He'll see out his career there.
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HarryHotspur wrote:
brumbys wrote:
Creative Midfielder is key, we need someone with defence splitting passing abilities...which we have never had. I don't dive in here often, but this is always my one biggest request of the phoenix, bring me the A-League version of FABREGAS!


Are there many of these in the A league, at all? Not of Fabregas quality, but even of the type you describe.

I don't pay enough attention to the other A-league teams to know if they exist or not (Miller and Hernandez being the exceptions)

 
I'm not sure.
 
All I know is we need one
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remeber Hernandez has Archie and Kruse to run on to the through balls he plays...we don't really have speed in our attack, and what we had we sold in Costa. 


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martinb wrote:
remeber Hernandez has Archie and Kruse to run on to the through balls he plays...we don't really have speed in our attack, and what we had we sold in Costa. 

Though a lot of space Thompson and Kruse do find are in wide areas, something we could take advantage of if Ifill and Bertos are pushed forward, possibly more Ifill.
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I would like a "fast" player. Greenarce would be so much better if he was quick, there was quite a few times when it was his speed getting to the ball that a chance went missing. Greenarce is great, but just another alternative upfront or out wide.
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valeo wrote:
Corica when he was playing was another

Culina at times

Flores?
You know we belong together...

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Luis Garcia wrote:
but just another alternative upfront or out wide.
Up front, yes, but wide players are the last thing we need.
You know we belong together...

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We need a target man for Greenie to run off. He may not be the quickest, buthe is smart.

With a target man up front Ifil and who ever else plays wide will be able to push up more as the cd will have to play tighter as wll the rb and lb to cover flick ons etc etc.
 
Just a question, has Dadi actually been released yet??
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The last word we got was the Euge and Caceres were in negotiations, that was a while back though.

You know we belong together...

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Hard News wrote:
Wehrman has already signed for Newcastle where he will probably be tall and sh*t like he was for Perth.



He will do a decent job
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I hope he doesn't..

Brockie to be Newcastle's best player - outside of that, I hope their whole team fails horriblyvaleo2010-04-24 14:52:49

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TouchMe wrote:

We need a target man for Greenie to run off. He may not be the quickest, buthe is smart.

With a target man up front Ifil and who ever else plays wide will be able to push up more as the cd will have to play tighter as wll the rb and lb to cover flick ons etc etc.
 
Just a question, has Dadi actually been released yet??


didn't he used to be quick in his prime and then get injured? I'm a fan of what Greenies done this year, but feel like I want him to create a bit more, or make some of those low percentage chances every now and then...


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