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Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 2)

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well said........couldnt agree more....more walking and less talking methinks
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valeo wrote:
His ego is too big and I think his wife is English
re above
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why all the beating up on fallon. always seems like a nice bloke.
 
I think Fallon's great. During the World Cup he was coming out with some of the best Christian comedy since Monty Python's Life of Brian.
 
Seriously, you would never have read a story like this about that po-faced English lot for instance.
 
Here's Rory showing Craig Stanaway how to really get down with the locals...
 
 

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boo-radley wrote:
Jade North


Yep, that is definitely a name

a.haak

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terminator_x wrote:
why all the beating up on fallon. always seems like a nice bloke.
 
I think Fallon's great. During the World Cup he was coming out with some of the best Christian comedy since Monty Python's Life of Brian.
 
Seriously, you would never have read a story like this about that po-faced English lot for instance.
 
Here's Rory showing Craig Stanaway how to really get down with the locals...
 
 
 
I think he's just a bit fo a different character and he actually says real stuff.  I was a bit down on him after the t-shirt thing, I think is was spectacularly poorly handled and then also the not wanting to play the mexico friendly.  But in SA he was a champion, first out to great the fans, would always stick around and best of all he looked like he enjoyed doing it, not doing it because he thought he should or even worse, because it might change people's opinion of him.
 
He genuinely looked like he was having the time of his life which was infectious

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dont you guys remember he was the only one with a few management staff that hung around and gifted there leftover gears to the poor african township, the kids. He's not cocky, he's positive and full of energy. Ive noticed when ever someone scored in there warm up games and WC, that hes the first there to congradulate and show passion. My opinion

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terminator_x wrote:
why all the beating up on fallon. always seems like a nice bloke.

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I think Fallon's great. During the World Cup he was coming out with some of the best Christian comedy since Monty Python's Life of Brian.

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Seriously, you would never have read a story like this about that po-faced English lot for instance.

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Here's Rory showing Craig Stanaway how to really get down with the locals...

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Rory, Rory Jackanory

T-shirt, post Bahrain comments, traveling to play Mexico. After all of this I thought he was a bit of a prima donna (from Plymouth Argyle!).

After reading the post-WC story where he takes excess kit to the locals and is quite refreshingly honest about what if any long-term impact it will have (i.e. sweet FA), I think he is a bit of a prima donna with a very generous spirit.

On balance I can live with his outbursts because I think he is no Bellamy or Bowyer (or Dyer or Terry or Rooney or...)
Junior822010-07-16 21:55:43

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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He's a bit weird but that's what makes him interesting, and let's face it, how many sportspeople live up to the label of 'personalities' now days? Doesn't seem to have been in any way a disruptive or egocentric individual in the AWs set up, quite the contrary, and that's what counts for me. Poor bastard is half of his father so you've got to expect a fair dollop of craziness.
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The interesting thing is that pretty much everything we heard from him pre-the World Cup was being filtered through the media "Fallon says this, Fallon says that". I'm wondering now how much of that was just the media looking for a story or Rory (or his management) just not putting himself across very well.

At the World Cup itself I thought he was a breath of fresh air, even though he didn't have a great tournament on the pitch.

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Crowther stays in Finland and Moss comes back? Didn't we say we might get three keepers as well?


Tando Velaphi please... Aussie + 3rd keeper... Above all.... in great form! Class keeper
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We can ignore Rory, I'm pretty sure Reidy (Peter Reid, Argyle's new manager) wants him based on a number of articles published in local papers and Argyle's website, plus we (Argyle) have already sold off a number of strikers over the last couple of weeks.
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Oska wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfNoELP39Bc&playnext_from=TL&videos=exMt7V7KLA4

Imagine Rory doing that, at the RoF, for the Nix...
 
my word, that is quite a goal
 
love the swindon fans going absolutely mental behind the goal
 
in my opinion fallon clearly just wants to live the dream, be the hero and be loved by the fans. I really think the phoenix can offer that to him if our approach is smart enough. Marquee him, do it, get his ass over here.
 
He's a daily rent-a-quote - even if he didnt play that well i think he'd generate a sh*tload of interest for football here given his constantly optimistic and sometimes controversial comments. Let's not forget that the 'fairweather' supporters are the ones we need to lock in to keep this footballing boom going, and most of those supporters only identify with the headlines - after fallon's bahrain goal he was all over those headlines. If we signed him i guarantee we'd get most of the fairweather fans interested and through the phoenix turnstiles......
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have to agree with ya paulm. Im not sure if he would necessarily be worth marquee though. If we could get a kiwis included in the aussie marquee bracket then yeah lets do it. Unless Ricki and co have no intent on signing another marquee then I guess they could. But i honestly want us to be signing some sort of marquee this year. Preferably of the CAM or ST type. 


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I very much doubt we will be signing a marquee this season

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Season tickets arrived (exactly as ordered - well done Ticketek !), dusting off Nix gear, warming up vocals at Boca game next week ......
 
Three weeks until the season kicks off, only four weeks until our first game. New players to settle in to their new home, training routines to get used to, combinations to be gelled and formations sorted out.
 
Over the speculation - let's get these new players signed and here and get the show on the road.
 
 
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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valeo wrote:
I very much doubt we will be signing a marquee this season


I doubt it too.

But i would like a marquee player. Not necessarily a Huge name or anything. Someone who is just playing at that higher level than the league who we generally couldnt afford. Surely Terry can put a portion of McKains fee towards higher wages?


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Fallon's great value. I thought he was the talisman of our cup campaign. I was a bit ratty when Ricki pulled him against Paraguiay. Would have liked to have seen him Wood and Smeltz on together...he was still winning plenty ofball in the air, which Wood didn't quite do. Would have liked to see Wood and Smeltz playing off him all that last half. He had the habit of turning up with something. Says mad sh*te, but hey i don't care if he always plays his heart out.




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disco_mart wrote:
We can ignore Rory, I'm pretty sure Reidy (Peter Reid, Argyle's new manager) wants him based on a number of articles published in local papers and Argyle's website, plus we (Argyle) have already sold off a number of strikers over the last couple of weeks.


Am sure Peter Reid won't be swayed by articles in local press.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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martinb wrote:
Fallon's great value. I thought he was the talisman of our cup campaign. I was a bit ratty when Ricki pulled him against Paraguiay. Would have liked to have seen him Wood and Smeltz on together...he was still winning plenty ofball in the air, which Wood didn't quite do. Would have liked to see Wood and Smeltz playing off him all that last half. He had the habit of turning up with something. Says mad sh*te, but hey i don't care if he always plays his heart out.


Thought he was actually a bit sh*t at the world cup. Didn't react well to how the other teams dealt with him. He didn't adapt at all. Personally, I thought he spent more time getting pulled up than winning the ball.

I don't really have time for him. In saying that, his work off the field with the kids in S.A was exceptional.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
martinb wrote:
Fallon's great value. I thought he was the talisman of our cup campaign. I was a bit ratty when Ricki pulled him against Paraguiay. Would have liked to have seen him Wood and Smeltz on together...he was still winning plenty ofball in the air, which Wood didn't quite do. Would have liked to see Wood and Smeltz playing off him all that last half. He had the habit of turning up with something. Says mad sh*te, but hey i don't care if he always plays his heart out.


Thought he was actually a bit sh*t at the world cup. Didn't react well to how the other teams dealt with him. He didn't adapt at all. Personally, I thought he spent more time getting pulled up than winning the ball.

I don't really have time for him. In saying that, his work off the field with the kids in S.A was exceptional.



Exactly.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Leggy wrote:
disco_mart wrote:
We can ignore Rory, I'm pretty sure Reidy (Peter Reid, Argyle's new manager) wants him based on a number of articles published in local papers and Argyle's website, plus we (Argyle) have already sold off a number of strikers over the last couple of weeks.


Am sure Peter Reid won't be swayed by articles in local press.


I think Disco was implying the gaffer was talking positively about him in the paper and on their website.
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Leggy wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
martinb wrote:
Fallon's great value. I thought he was the talisman of our cup campaign. I was a bit ratty when Ricki pulled him against Paraguiay. Would have liked to have seen him Wood and Smeltz on together...he was still winning plenty ofball in the air, which Wood didn't quite do. Would have liked to see Wood and Smeltz playing off him all that last half. He had the habit of turning up with something. Says mad sh*te, but hey i don't care if he always plays his heart out.


Thought he was actually a bit sh*t at the world cup. Didn't react well to how the other teams dealt with him. He didn't adapt at all. Personally, I thought he spent more time getting pulled up than winning the ball.

I don't really have time for him. In saying that, his work off the field with the kids in S.A was exceptional.



Exactly.


harsh.

attackwise nobody had a great game against paraguay, except maybe Leo. Italy- don't get me started. Slovakia was tough...

he is a limited player, but you could never say he was lazy. Sure he didn't adapt well, but he was up against some class opposition. The way Itlaly reacted shows the threat they thought he was. I thought he was all heart.

Plus he had a hand in some great moments that will stay with me esp in qualifying and build up to create the confidence we carried into the cup...


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martinb wrote:

Leggy wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
martinb wrote:
Fallon's great value. I thought he was the talisman of our cup campaign. I was a bit ratty when Ricki pulled him against Paraguiay. Would have liked to have seen him Wood and Smeltz on together...he was still winning plenty ofball in the air, which Wood didn't quite do. Would have liked to see Wood and Smeltz playing off him all that last half. He had the habit of turning up with something. Says mad sh*te, but hey i don't care if he always plays his heart out.


Thought he was actually a bit sh*t at the world cup. Didn't react well to how the other teams dealt with him. He didn't adapt at all. Personally, I thought he spent more time getting pulled up than winning the ball.

I don't really have time for him. In saying that, his work off the field with the kids in S.A was exceptional.



Exactly.
harsh. attackwise nobody had a great game against paraguay, except maybe Leo. Italy- don't get me started. Slovakia was tough...he is a limited player, but you could never say he was lazy. Sure he didn't adapt well, but he was up against some class opposition. The way Itlaly reacted shows the threat they thought he was. I thought he was all heart. Plus he had a hand in some great moments that will stay with me esp in qualifying and build up to create the confidence we carried into the cup...


Not harsh at all. Total truth. Other than scoring the goal against Bahrain and nod for Smeltz v Serbia he did very little. I don't buy that he brought confidence to the team. The person who did that was Nelsen. he's not EPL standard.

I actually thought he was one dimensional and didn't offer anything extra compared to Wood

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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He offered some mongrel compared to Wood! I think he'd thrash the A-League given his height and the fairly physical nature of the leagues style of play!

On a side note, call me lazy for not trawling through all the threads, but do we have 4 key names that relate to the 4 "spots" Ricki's looking to fill?
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Theories:

South American - Magno Vieira
Australian - Jade North
Asian - no idea
AW - Boyens, Ivan, Clapham, Moss
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Scottishbhoy wrote:
martinb wrote:
Fallon's great value. I thought he was the talisman of our cup campaign. I was a bit ratty when Ricki pulled him against Paraguiay. Would have liked to have seen him Wood and Smeltz on together...he was still winning plenty ofball in the air, which Wood didn't quite do. Would have liked to see Wood and Smeltz playing off him all that last half. He had the habit of turning up with something. Says mad sh*te, but hey i don't care if he always plays his heart out.


Thought he was actually a bit sh*t at the world cup. Didn't react well to how the other teams dealt with him. He didn't adapt at all. Personally, I thought he spent more time getting pulled up than winning the ball.

I don't really have time for him. In saying that, his work off the field with the kids in S.A was exceptional.

 
Harsh. He was very good against Bahrain, in the WC lead up games and then against Slovakia. Italy were so fearful of his and Killen's aerial dominance that they adopted the preconceived tactic of screaming and diving whenever either challenged for the high ball. A cooperative ref responded to their theatrics and they were both thereafter rendered ineffective. Paraguay naturally applied the same tactic with the same result.
 
Quite how Fallon, or Killen for that matter, should've adapted to this I'm not sure. Ricki didn't put them in there for their dribbling skills or speed - their ability in the air was the key to his strategy going forward.
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What happened to that Song fella from Newcastle?

Also, potential Asians, Sutee Suksomkit? Had a loan at Melbourne early last season. Thought he was pretty average but Ricki may have had other ideas.
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Song is in France.
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Fallon was quality against Bahrain, gave them real problem, and was a major factor in qualifying.

As for the world cup then given the nature of the points which were largely defensive (no shame in that) then the defenders are always going to shine more than the forwards. u gotta remember al the guys were playing agasint superior defenses to the a league. Fallon would be great for the phoenix but theres no chance he would come.
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Scottishbhoy wrote:
martinb wrote:

Leggy wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
martinb wrote:
Fallon's great value. I thought he was the talisman of our cup campaign. I was a bit ratty when Ricki pulled him against Paraguiay. Would have liked to have seen him Wood and Smeltz on together...he was still winning plenty ofball in the air, which Wood didn't quite do. Would have liked to see Wood and Smeltz playing off him all that last half. He had the habit of turning up with something. Says mad sh*te, but hey i don't care if he always plays his heart out.


Thought he was actually a bit sh*t at the world cup. Didn't react well to how the other teams dealt with him. He didn't adapt at all. Personally, I thought he spent more time getting pulled up than winning the ball.

I don't really have time for him. In saying that, his work off the field with the kids in S.A was exceptional.



Exactly.
harsh. attackwise nobody had a great game against paraguay, except maybe Leo. Italy- don't get me started. Slovakia was tough...he is a limited player, but you could never say he was lazy. Sure he didn't adapt well, but he was up against some class opposition. The way Itlaly reacted shows the threat they thought he was. I thought he was all heart. Plus he had a hand in some great moments that will stay with me esp in qualifying and build up to create the confidence we carried into the cup...


Not harsh at all. Total truth. Other than scoring the goal against Bahrain and nod for Smeltz v Serbia he did very little. I don't buy that he brought confidence to the team. The person who did that was Nelsen. he's not EPL standard.

I actually thought he was one dimensional and didn't offer anything extra compared to Wood



He also scored a good goal against Slovenia

I thought that Fallon was easily our best attacking player in the warm ups but unfortunately it didn't translate to the real thing

a.haak

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In the warm ups and qualifiers Fallon was brilliant up front for the all whites however by the world cup teams had learned to dive while competing with him and thus rule him out of the game - however thought he failed to react appropriatly and therefore had a shocker at the world cup
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Might as well call this the Fallon thread,
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re Fallon: He's still a young enough fellow.  The fact he couldn't adapt to the way he was whistled and played professionally out of games says something about his own ability to adapt.  But it also says something about the coaching staff as well.  I was surprised they had not anticipated it and had not come up with a plan B for Fallon.
re thread: looks like no-one has a real clue about these four player buys for the season. no leaky ship this phoenix mjp22010-07-17 22:05:30
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I just hope the South American isn't Viera.  Fills me with nothing but dread. 

North, though, yes please.
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Some Kosta kid seems to have had a good game against Everton. Can we nab him?
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back on track please

Normo's coming home

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Well we can take Vicelich off the All White list. Off to China for four months now.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10659532

Positive article this. Also indicates that Vieira is unlikely with three of the signings overseas still. And then one All White makes 4 signings? However it did sort of sound like the third signing might not be so likely. Hopefully we get some positive news over the next week.
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