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Phoenix v Jets - Sunday 22

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hmm,but they way we play seems to require more defensive work in that position,rather than just being a deep playmaker.
 
But alright,ill bow down to greater knowledge

Allegedly

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ard Righ wrote:
How is McKain doing? Shouldn't he be fit by now?
He was training ok today but did seem to maybe have a bit of a problem at the end.
You know we belong together...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sigmund is still waiting for a Facebook fan page to be formed in his honour. Game saving goalie Mark Paston is fast approaching 1,000 fans on the social networking site.


Anyone going to do this for him?
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ben-Sigmund/174780363794

Found this.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
disco_mart wrote:
This is clear cut:  Mulli is an AW and needs match time. We all know he has been found out both at the Nix as well as for the AWs but he is a mid who, WHEN REQUIRED plays RB.  If any of you were present at the U17 games in '99 you would have witnessed Mully playing in the mids and playing very well (he was NZs top scorer).  I know thats 10 years ago but still valid point. Plus is a better setpiece taker then virtually anyone else in the AWs or the NixHe's not been given an adequate chance to prove himself.  Give him a wee run then judge... if he's still crap then, c u!


Oh. So he spends 10 years of his professional career mostly as a right back who's pretty much failed to impress in most places he's been, but what really testifies to his ability is an age-grade tournament held ten years ago where he looked half-decent? If he was such a talented midfield player, wouldn't one of the professional coaches he's worked with for the past decade have recognised that talent, and given him the opportunity to express and showcase it?


Post of the day El Grap. He is a right back that can't cut it and when he has had chances, he has been ordinary. Got an extended run early last year and was rubbish, got a run at the confeds and was..... yup you guessed it. But 3rd time is the charm right? Say it with me.... Rubbish

If his form at training (that everyone raves about) is so good, he would have started ages ago when they were looking for wins not draws.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Fair enough that he's never performed competitively at CM other then '99, but I;ve never seen him play as well in training and preseason games at RB as he does at CM.

You know we belong together...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
aitkenmike wrote:

I agree JV, I think that I will give the side one flat game in the aftermath of a momentous occasion in NZ Football, but as you say, only one.

 
Come on. We said this after the first leg as well - they were tired.
 
Then we said we'd probably be due a let down after the Gold Coast 6-0 games as well.
 
And now they'll be a bit flat 8 days after a morale boosting WIN and qualifying for the World Cup?
 
We can't afford to drop any more unnecessary points and no AW-related excuses will be acceptable this weekend IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah if anything they should be playing the football of their lives.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
chocnut wrote:
Yeah if anything they should be playing the football of their lives.


Have to make sure that we are still on the high of last week--- easy to say-- Newcastle are no mugs, and also expect the weather to be around 30.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
if anything i think it will lift the team. costa, mulligan, etc will know they have to play hard to get chosen in the AW squad. Paston's form as soared. we now need to produce some good wins and prove that saturday wasnt just a one off.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Leggy wrote:
chocnut wrote:
Yeah if anything they should be playing the football of their lives.


Have to make sure that we are still on the high of last week--- easy to say-- Newcastle are no mugs, and also expect the weather to be around 30.


30 if we're lucky

It's getting up to 40 here in Melbourne this weekend apparently

a.haak

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh that's just great. 40 degrees and I've got the in-laws invading this weekend to mess up my football viewing....
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
darkhorse wrote:
if anything i think it will lift the team. costa, mulligan, etc will know they have to play hard to get chosen in the AW squad. Paston's form as soared. we now need to produce some good wins and prove that saturday wasnt just a one off.
 
yea exactly, a world cup spot on the line should make those boys play out of their skins
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I reckon Bertos will be starting again, he looked a lot fresher with his last few starts off the bench, and now the WC qualifier is out of the way, I think his mind will be back on the Phoenix games.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
That's pretty harsh on Daniel/Costa though, who have been brilliant for the Phoenix for the last few games and one of them would have to drop out.
You know we belong together...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oska wrote:
That's pretty harsh�on Daniel/Costa though, who have been brilliant for the Phoenix for the last few games and one of them would have to drop out.


Depends how fresh and fit the players are I guess. Daniel has been playing his best since our first season, but Bertos looks to have his attacking flair back.

With Lia out:

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Ifill
       Costa   Greenie

I know Ifill likes to play wide, and tends to get there, but I think he suits our team playing more central, when he gets in the middle, he creates a heap of opportunities for those around him and for himself.

Bench:
Caceres
Hearfield
Ferrante
Crowther

Looks about right :P

If Greenacre is out with injury, move Ifill up front with Costa, start Caceres, and bring Marco onto the bench :)Ard Righ2009-11-18 12:30:18
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oska wrote:
That's pretty harsh on Daniel/Costa though, who have been brilliant for the Phoenix for the last few games and one of them would have to drop out.


Don't think Costa was great against Perth - screwed up our two best chances (though Leo probably would've too)

a.haak

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ard Righ wrote:
Oska wrote:
That's pretty harsh�on Daniel/Costa though, who have been brilliant for the Phoenix for the last few games and one of them would have to drop out.


Depends how fresh and fit the players are I guess. Daniel has been playing his best since our first season, but Bertos looks to have his attacking flair back.

With Lia out:

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Ifill
       Costa   Greenie

I know Ifill likes to play wide, and tends to get there, but I think he suits our team playing more central, when he gets in the middle, he creates a heap of opportunities for those around him and for himself.

Bench:
Caceres
Hearfield
Ferrante
Crowther

Looks about right :P

If Greenacre is out with injury, move Ifill up front with Costa, start Caceres, and bring Marco onto the bench :)


We would get slaughtered in the middle with that team.

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Caceres
       Ifill   Greenie

Bench:
Costa
Hearfield
Mulligan
Crowther
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
mulligan should get a bench spot before ferrante

rojas, so special

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ScoobyD wrote:
Ard Righ wrote:
Oska wrote:
That's pretty harsh�on Daniel/Costa though, who have been brilliant for the Phoenix for the last few games and one of them would have to drop out.


Depends how fresh and fit the players are I guess. Daniel has been playing his best since our first season, but Bertos looks to have his attacking flair back.

With Lia out:

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Ifill
       Costa   Greenie

I know Ifill likes to play wide, and tends to get there, but I think he suits our team playing more central, when he gets in the middle, he creates a heap of opportunities for those around him and for himself.

Bench:
Caceres
Hearfield
Ferrante
Crowther

Looks about right :P

If Greenacre is out with injury, move Ifill up front with Costa, start Caceres, and bring Marco onto the bench :)


We would get slaughtered in the middle with that team.

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Caceres
       Ifill   Greenie

Bench:
Costa
Hearfield
Mulligan
Crowther


I honestly think whatever we do, we're going to struggle in the midfield without Lia or McKain fully fit.

And since we did a decent job against Newcastle last time, and the fact we need wins from now onwards to stay in the Top 6, I'd say attacking formation away is a worthwhile gamble to take for this game.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

When are travelling squads named ?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Team was training at Nairnville Park arttificial turf today just accross the road from my house looked good and fit although missing Diego and a few AW eg Sigmund Lochy but still looked really good. Saw Mulligan training really hard and well. got them to sign my ball they are all Good guys and you can really sense  the team chemistry all of them get along real well

Shogan2009-11-18 14:03:48
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Shogan wrote:

Team was training at Nairnville Park arttificial turf today just accross the road from my house looked good and fit although missing Diego and a few AW eg Sigmund Lochy but still looked really good. Saw Mulligan training really hard and well. got them to sign my ball they are all GC and you can really sense  the team chemistry all of them get along real well

 
GC ?
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
good guys or C**T
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ScoobyD wrote:
Ard Righ wrote:
Oska wrote:
That's pretty harsh on Daniel/Costa though, who have been brilliant for the Phoenix for the last few games and one of them would have to drop out.


Depends how fresh and fit the players are I guess. Daniel has been playing his best since our first season, but Bertos looks to have his attacking flair back.

With Lia out:

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Ifill
       Costa   Greenie

I know Ifill likes to play wide, and tends to get there, but I think he suits our team playing more central, when he gets in the middle, he creates a heap of opportunities for those around him and for himself.

Bench:
Caceres
Hearfield
Ferrante
Crowther

Looks about right :P

If Greenacre is out with injury, move Ifill up front with Costa, start Caceres, and bring Marco onto the bench :)


We would get slaughtered in the middle with that team.

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Caceres
       Ifill   Greenie

Bench:
Costa
Hearfield
Mulligan
Crowther


How exactly would Caceres stop us getting slaughtered in the middle when he can't defend and normally drifts out wide?

a.haak

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
ScoobyD wrote:
Ard Righ wrote:
Oska wrote:
That's pretty harsh on Daniel/Costa though, who have been brilliant for the Phoenix for the last few games and one of them would have to drop out.


Depends how fresh and fit the players are I guess. Daniel has been playing his best since our first season, but Bertos looks to have his attacking flair back.

With Lia out:

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Ifill
       Costa   Greenie

I know Ifill likes to play wide, and tends to get there, but I think he suits our team playing more central, when he gets in the middle, he creates a heap of opportunities for those around him and for himself.

Bench:
Caceres
Hearfield
Ferrante
Crowther

Looks about right :P

If Greenacre is out with injury, move Ifill up front with Costa, start Caceres, and bring Marco onto the bench :)


We would get slaughtered in the middle with that team.

            Paston
Manny Dura Siggy Lochy
            Brown
Daniel                 Bertos
            Caceres
       Ifill   Greenie

Bench:
Costa
Hearfield
Mulligan
Crowther


How exactly would Caceres stop us getting slaughtered in the middle when he can't defend and normally drifts out wide?
Looked fine at training today
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think Caceres if he plays should play out wide. Looks best down the left flank. But who knows, I haven't seen a lot of him.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mulligan chance
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
smeltzfan1 wrote:
Mulligan chance
 
 
looked really good at training
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mulligan is likely to be the one in for Lia

Don't be surprised to see Diego on the bench either
Royal2009-11-18 16:15:23
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Got to remember that training is not a game though. Theyre effectively in training matches against the reserves. I think Mulligan may get the nod,if only just to keep formation and style of play.

Allegedly

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 Yea you ar right but if hes proving himself at taining and in training games hes worth a shot how else do you get into the team? I say GIVE MULLI A CHANCE! and if hes sh*t drop him
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Shogan wrote:
 Yea you ar right but if hes proving himself at taining and in training games hes worth a shot how else do you get into the team? I say GIVE MULLI A CHANCE! and if hes sh*t drop him
 
Injury, suspension, internationals, family ... etc.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
simon_hampton wrote:
Shogan wrote:
 Yea you ar right but if hes proving himself at taining and in training games hes worth a shot how else do you get into the team? I say GIVE MULLI A CHANCE! and if hes sh*t drop him
 
Injury, suspension, internationals, family ... etc.
 
fair point sorry my bad point taken under the rock i go haha
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
you know when you go to a restaurant and you have a crap meal or service and you think, "i'm never coming back here, it's rubbish" and then a few weeks, months or years later you think, "it wasn't that bad was it? i'll give it another try" and you do and IT'S STILL RUBBISH??

meet dave mulligan.

please prove me wrong, dave.craiga2009-11-18 17:47:03
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
craiga wrote:
you know when you go to a restaurant and you have a crap meal or service and you think, "i'm never coming back here, it's rubbish" and then a few weeks, months or years later you think, "it wasn't that bad was it? i'll give it another try" and you do and IT'S STILL RUBBISH??

meet dave mulligan.

please prove me wrong, dave.
 
 
Yea i would love him to prove everyone wrong
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
not going to happen
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
craiga wrote:
you know when you go to a restaurant and you have a crap meal or service and you think, "i'm never coming back here, it's rubbish" and then a few weeks, months or years later you think, "it wasn't that bad was it? i'll give it another try" and you do and IT'S STILL RUBBISH??

meet dave mulligan.

please prove me wrong, dave.
cant be worse than ferrante

rojas, so special

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
start mulligan after all he is are only fit dm
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
is it his name? is that why you're keen to give him another go? don't be fooled, it's football not golf
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