Wellington Phoenix Men

Pre-Season 2012/2013

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

It was a lochhead error 

Dissapointing that our most experienced back 4 of the tourny let in 3. Although sounds like goals werent based on poor defending.


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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

It was worth losing just for that match report.

 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Is there any more local games before the Wanderers game down in ChCh? Speaking of the ChCh game, will there be many heading down for the game?

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Ryans Rovers wrote:

Is there any more local games before the Wanderers game down in ChCh? Speaking of the ChCh game, will there be many heading down for the game?

Still to play Young Heart Manawatu (semi local), not sure on date though so could possibly be after Wanderers

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The Wanderers game is on the 23rd and YoungHeart is on the 29th.

Being an afternoon game, it is tempting (but expensive) to fly down in the morning and return that evening.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Have heard the Nix are playing Petone at Porirua Park this Sunday at 2.

 

Can anyone confirm this?




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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I need to find an old email but pretty sure there is a game vs Petone and possibly one vs TeeDubs before the Wanderers games.

Of course these are not 'matches'.  They are competitive trainings.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wibblebutt wrote:

Have heard the Nix are playing Petone at Porirua Park this Sunday at 2.

 

Can anyone confirm this?

What i heard a few weeks ago/

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yes. Was planned a few weeks ago

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

^^ So thats 100% confirmed? I love these Porirua Park games

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mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]-->Sun 9th Game: WPX vs Petone 2:00pm K/O (Porirua Park)

Guess I'll have to sprint from masters tourney 5th place playoff which finishes @ 01:50 out there.

 

 

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Got my hopes up when I read Petone, but I don't think I can't get out to Porirua. Is there a reason for playing it in Porirua rather than Petone?

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Isn't Petone being dug up for turf?

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If not, P-town Park is much better than Petone memorial anyway.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

http://garethsworld.com/blog/wellington-phoenix/where-to-now-for-the-wellington-phoenix/#.UEP56Bck9JQ.twitter

Heaps of really exciting points from Gareth in there!
Top points:

  1. Adding 14-16 year olds to academy
  2. 2 young indians are gonna be joining the academy
  3. Gareth wants us touring all over the world in similar deals

I was more interested in this part: "Developments on the football scene in India are really exciting and even include the possibility of an IPL (International Profession League) as they have successfully launched with cricket."

Does this refer to Champions League Cricket or the Indian Premier League? Or are they just talking about a Football Federation or something?

Would be neat if the Indians were divising some kind of additional champions league competition or other international club competition (that the Phoenix can actually have the opportunity to be a part of).

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

asmodeus_82 wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

http://garethsworld.com/blog/wellington-phoenix/where-to-now-for-the-wellington-phoenix/#.UEP56Bck9JQ.twitter

Heaps of really exciting points from Gareth in there!
Top points:

  1. Adding 14-16 year olds to academy
  2. 2 young indians are gonna be joining the academy
  3. Gareth wants us touring all over the world in similar deals

I was more interested in this part: "Developments on the football scene in India are really exciting and even include the possibility of an IPL (International Profession League) as they have successfully launched with cricket."

Does this refer to Champions League Cricket or the Indian Premier League? Or are they just talking about a Football Federation or something?

Would be neat if the Indians were divising some kind of additional champions league competition or other international club competition (that the Phoenix can actually have the opportunity to be a part of).

If they tour India again, I hope they have the contacts/ respect now to play more major clubs. The two I-League clubs they played were about the weakest in the league, in the most remote parts. These sorts of criticisms of facilities in the press wouldn't arise if playing in major cities where I've seen some great stadia more like A-League level used by I-League clubs:

"It remains to be seen whether the Phoenix have been scared off returning to India by poor training facilities and playing surfaces.

The final two games were played on artificial turf but, before that, one ground was rock hard and the other flooded.

"It was good but if you could guarantee decent training facilities and pitches it would've been better," Ifill said."

Blackburn (who are Indian-owned) played in India last year, Bayern Munich in 2008 and then Brazilian champions Sao Paulo had five matches against I-League teams in 2007.

There are real signs of progress in Indian football with the Federation's new Dutch input - a Dutch national coach (Wim Koevermans, former Dutch national youth team coach, Ireland High Performance Director) and a Dutch national technical director (Rob Baan, ex-Dutch national coaching staff, PSV and Feyenoord technical director, top-level club manager). India beat the Cameroons in the final of the Nehru Cup last week in Delhi. 

Rob Baan

India's top striker, Sunil Chhetri, signed for Sporting Lisbon in July - the first Indian to sign for a high-profile European club. He had previously signed for Queens Park Rangers in 2009 but had a work permit refused, and had a stint in Major League Soccer with Kansas City in 2010. 

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INDIAN PREMIER LEAGUE (referred to in Gareth Morgan's blog quoted above);

Don't get your hopes up about this one - no possibility of the Phoenix taking part. Will only consist of Indian franchises who will sign marquee veteran foreign players and coaches. Probably to be played April-May 2013.

Inaugral comp was supposed to take place Feb-April this year in football hotbed Bengal but was deferred to next year:

 "The first proposal of an IPL-like meet in football came from a Kolkata-based company. It was supposed to kick-off in March 2012 as a six-team intra-Bengal affair with the Indian Football Association (IFA) which helms the sport in the state. Players such as Robert Pires, Fabio Cannavaro, Hernan Crespo, Jay-Jay Okocha and Robbie Fowler had confirmed too. Officially, the meet has been deferred because the IFA couldn’t provide grounds."

Also canned because the national body (AIFF, All India Football Federation) were opposed due to such a tournament encroaching on its I-League national comp played at the same time:

AIFF PLAN IPL STYLE FOOTBALL LEAGUE

July 10, 2012 19:09 IST

"The All India Football Federation (AIFF) and International Management Group (IMG) are having serious talks about starting a franchise based football league in the model of the highly successful Indian Premier League (IPL) Twenty20 cricket tournament.

AIFF general secretary Kushal Das admitted that the federation is indeed planning to hold an IPL-style league but everything is at a very preliminary stage.

"Everything is at a discussion stage and nothing has been finalised as of now. But we do plan to hold an IPL style league," Das said after his meeting with IMG officials.

Interestingly, the idea of having a franchise-based league was mooted by a Kolkata based company Celebrity Management Group (CMG) under the aegis of Indian Football Association but AIFF didn't give a go-ahead.

However, the AIFF is now planning to do the same eight-team league with players' auction. Some of the aged retired stars like Fabio Cannavaro and some like Hernan Crespo are likely to play alongside top Indian players like Sunil Chhetri, Jeje Lalpekhlua and Syed Rahim Nabi.

AIFF is planning to create a two-month window after the I-League finishes which will allow the top Indian players to participate in the league. However after a gruelling six-months of national league, it will certainly be questionable whether it is wise to allow the top Indian players participate considering that their jaded bodies would require much-needed rest."

See:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2087353/Robbie-Fowler-Fabio-Cannavaro-Robert-Pires-join-Indian-football-reboot.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-16784221

http://www.hindustantimes.com/sports-news/Football/AIFF-keen-on-IPL-style-football-meet-next-year/Article1-891470.aspx

http://www.rediff.com/sports/report/indian-football-planning-indian-premier-league-style-tournament/20120710.htm

 

    Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Wow thanks for the awesome reply.

    I thought that the I-league was already that for India (I-league=A-league of inida=logic ?) so I was confused as to what Gareth could have meant. 

    Would be really cool to create an additional champions league comp for various regional franchises (not necessarily for champions) to play during the first part of the offseason, maybe do like a regional round robin like superrugby to reduce travel expense.

    "Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Interested in the Petone game

    With the NZ boys away how will the team line up ?

    Will Lia, Sanchez and Downey front up?  (given up on Pantelis)

    Who will pair with Durante in the centre of defence......Solomons? (didn`t seem to be in favour in India)

    And of course Right Back....... Lia, Downey or Yoof

    Even though it`s a minor friendly, I`m intrigued 

     

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Im assuming we'll be seeing Gouldy in goal, yes?? Or perhaps whoever doesnt play on Friday if AWs back by then??

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    AJ13 wrote:

    Im assuming we'll be seeing Gouldy in goal, yes?? Or perhaps whoever doesnt play on Friday if AWs back by then??

    Surely it would be Basalaj in goal?
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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Basalaj?


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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    playwithFire wrote:

    Basalaj?

    Unless i'm much mistaken he is our youth academy keeper who used to play for team Wellington? Or else where in the asb prem. 

    "Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Sorry, that was a resposne to AJ13, rather than a question about Scott. I actually know him quite well through his stream connections


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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Apparently the games not going ahead on Sunday due to the phoenix lacking numbers with sickness and all whites away. Possibly being moved to Weds

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Poolfan wrote:

    Apparently the games not going ahead on Sunday due to the phoenix lacking numbers with sickness and all whites away. Possibly being moved to Weds

    Good start to the season  "Default to the Bling"

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Stiiiink

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Anyone organising anything for the Christchurch game on the 23rd?

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Rosco wrote:

    Anyone organising anything for the Christchurch game on the 23rd?

    I haven't seen much mentioned at all about the game on the forum, especially compared to the Dunedin game last year. Maybe after the AW game mid week it might get some focus.

    Atm you can get $69 airfares down Sunday morning, and back Monday afternoon with Air NZ. Flights back Sunday night are $199. Hoping the Sunday night return might come down a bit cheaper closer to the date, so I can pop down for the day.

    Question for those ChCh based fans, is there much buzz about the game? Will you guys beat the mark Dunedin set last year?

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Most people I have asked didn't know about the game...Ive only managed to drag 10 people along
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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Yeah there has been bugger all, if any, publicity about it.  I certainly haven't been exposed to any and I would consider myself in the target market.

    So what sort of a YF contingent do you think we'll get?  The smart thing to do would be to have a few warm-up beers at Tower Junction Ale House.

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Yea should be more advertising. Pretty much nothing to do in Chch. I think if people knew about it they would come.

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    I dont know whos in charge of marketing and advertising, but theyre doing an exceedingly mediocre job at it.

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/wellingtonphoenix/news-display/Clemenger%20sign%20on%20with%20the%20Phoenix/47890

    How's my driving? - Whine here

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Needs more Ahmad.

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    over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    AJ13 wrote:

    I dont know whos in charge of marketing and advertising, but theyre doing an exceedingly mediocre job at it.

    Needs more player appearances at Wendy's for sure.
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    over 13 years ago

    Nix game vs Petone on sunday was canned, it is now on 2moro night

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    over 13 years ago

     Why on earth would they have the game tomorrow when the All Whites are playing.  Screws my plan to go to Porirua to watch the game.

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    over 13 years ago
    AJ13 wrote:

    I dont know whos in charge of marketing and advertising, but theyre doing an exceedingly mediocre job at it.

    I dunno, heard an add on the radio today that seemed to suggest the Nix have teamed up with Calendar Girls. That's a different approach to the usually family orientated way! 

    Fuck this stupid game

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