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Season 2024/25 - General Discussions Thread

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over 1 year ago
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
Thanks for that RR. Was rather puzzling.
At this stage, I would be happy to just get drip fed the draw. Give us the first month or two cuz its getting ridiculous now.
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over 1 year ago


Full Draw out tomorrow
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over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago · History
Appears that Round 1 is Whacking Day vs the Snakes. Seems like it is at Sky Stadium.
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over 1 year ago
Looking forward to the derby game on the 2nd of November. Hopefully some AFC fans come down for it so we can hit them with “Same old Auckland, always cheating” and “Auckland get battered everywhere they go”
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over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago · History
RR


Full Draw out tomorrow
9am announcement according to a CCM post, so 11am NZ time we will have all the fixtures!

Also the CCM post specifically says Izuzu ute A League fixtures so who knows when we will get the women's fixtures
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over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago · History
And when in Auckland we sing “Auckland’s a sh*t hole I want to go home”
Gooner 4 Life
Looking forward to the derby game on the 2nd of November. Hopefully some AFC fans come down for it so we can hit them with “Same old Auckland, always cheating” and “Auckland get battered everywhere they go”
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over 1 year ago


No Waitangi Day match against Auckland, but we'll see them a few weeks afterwards at least!
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over 1 year ago
https://aleagues.com.au/news/a-league-fixtures-reaction-breakdown-everything-you-need-to-know-tv-schedule-talking-points/

"More detail on the broadcast schedule for the Liberty A-League Women will be shared in the coming weeks, along with latest information for New Zealand following the appointment of an official broadcast partner."

Sky obviously haven't yet bought the rights for this season
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over 1 year ago
Half a Pint
https://aleagues.com.au/news/a-league-fixtures-reaction-breakdown-everything-you-need-to-know-tv-schedule-talking-points/

"More detail on the broadcast schedule for the Liberty A-League Women will be shared in the coming weeks, along with latest information for New Zealand following the appointment of an official broadcast partner."

Sky obviously haven't yet bought the rights for this season
 Please sky... Or TVNZ would be all good. Not some stupid streaming service I have to buy seperately
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over 1 year ago
From the Phoenix website:
The club are only considering taking one game out of Wellington, against the Central Coast Mariners on Saturday, January 25.
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over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago · History
Also the Phoenix site has all the kick off times listed in NZT so I'll paste that here as well:

Round 1 – Sunday, October 20 – Wellington Phoenix vs Western United – Sky Stadium – 4pm

Round 2 – Saturday, October 26 – Wellington Phoenix @ Perth Glory – 11.45pm
Round 3 – Saturday, November 2 – Wellington Phoenix vs Auckland FC – Sky Stadium – 5pm
Round 4 – Sunday, November 10 – Wellington Phoenix @ Central Coast Mariners – 6pm
Round 5 (Unite Round) – Sunday, November 24 – Wellington Phoenix vs Melbourne Victory – Allianz Stadium – 3.30pm
Round 6 – Weekend bye round
Round 7 – Saturday, December 7 – Wellington Phoenix @ Auckland FC – 5pm
Round 8 – Saturday, December 14 – Wellington Phoenix vs Macarthur FC – Sky Stadium – 5pm
Round 9 – Sunday, December 22 – Wellington Phoenix @ Western Sydney Wanderers – 7pm
Round 10 – Saturday, December 28 – Wellington Phoenix vs Newcastle Jets – Sky Stadium – 5pm
Round 11 – Mid-week bye round
Round 12 – Friday, January 3 – Wellington Phoenix @ Melbourne City – 7pm
Round 13 – Saturday, January 11 – Wellington Phoenix vs Adelaide United – Sky Stadium – 5pm
Round 14 – Wednesday, January 15 – Wellington Phoenix vs Sydney FC – Sky Stadium – 7pm
Round 15 – Monday, January 20 – Wellington Phoenix @ Macarthur FC – 9pm
Round 16 – Saturday, January 25 – Wellington Phoenix vs Central Coast Mariners – venue TBC – 5pm
Round 17 – Weekend bye round
Round 18 – Thursday, February 6 – Wellington Phoenix vs Brisbane Roar – Sky Stadium – 5pm
Round 19 – Friday, February 14 – Wellington Phoenix @ Melbourne Victory – 9.35pm 
Round 20 – Saturday, February 22 – Wellington Phoenix @ Auckland FC – 5pm
Round 21 – Friday, February 28 – Wellington Phoenix vs Melbourne City – Sky Stadium – 7.30pm
Round 22 – Saturday, March 8 – Wellington Phoenix @ Western United – 8pm
Round 23 – Saturday, March 15 – Wellington Phoenix @ Sydney FC – 7pm
Round 24 – Saturday, March 29 – Wellington Phoenix vs Western Sydney Wanderers – Sky Stadium – 5pm
Round 25 – Sunday, April 6 – Wellington Phoenix @ Newcastle Jets – 7pm
Round 26 – Saturday, April 12 – Wellington Phoenix vs Melbourne Victory – Sky Stadium – 5pm
Round 27 – Friday, April 18 – Wellington Phoenix @ Adelaide United – 9.35pm
Round 28 – Saturday, April 26 – Wellington Phoenix @ Brisbane Roar – 5pm
Round 29 – Friday, May 2 – Wellington Phoenix vs Perth Glory – Sky Stadium – 7.30pm


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over 1 year ago
heaps of 5pm Saturday games, good for families and those that want to head into town afterwards!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 1 year ago
Half a Pint
From the Phoenix website:
The club are only considering taking one game out of Wellington, against the Central Coast Mariners on Saturday, January 25.

Christchurch?

Note Monday January 27th is a holiday in Australia next year, Australia Day 26th Jan falling on a Sunday 
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over 1 year ago
Half a Pint
https://aleagues.com.au/news/a-league-fixtures-reaction-breakdown-everything-you-need-to-know-tv-schedule-talking-points/

"More detail on the broadcast schedule for the Liberty A-League Women will be shared in the coming weeks, along with latest information for New Zealand following the appointment of an official broadcast partner."

Sky obviously haven't yet bought the rights for this season

They always tend to leave it late, trying to get it cheaper,
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over 1 year ago
RR
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https://aleagues.com.au/news/a-league-fixtures-reaction-breakdown-everything-you-need-to-know-tv-schedule-talking-points/

"More detail on the broadcast schedule for the Liberty A-League Women will be shared in the coming weeks, along with latest information for New Zealand following the appointment of an official broadcast partner."

Sky obviously haven't yet bought the rights for this season

They always tend to leave it late, trying to get it cheaper,

TVNZ on demand! 🤞
Hopefully they're trying to bulk out their sporting offerings.
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over 1 year ago
As long as we can still watch away games on YouTube...

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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over 1 year ago
coochiee
Half a Pint
From the Phoenix website:
The club are only considering taking one game out of Wellington, against the Central Coast Mariners on Saturday, January 25.

Christchurch?

Note Monday January 27th is a holiday in Australia next year, Australia Day 26th Jan falling on a Sunday 

I'd love to have a game down here, or maybe more realistically Dunedin due to a bigger and better stadium. Been a hot minute since the Nix played in the south
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SamCoughlan
coochiee
Half a Pint
From the Phoenix website:
The club are only considering taking one game out of Wellington, against the Central Coast Mariners on Saturday, January 25.

Christchurch?

Note Monday January 27th is a holiday in Australia next year, Australia Day 26th Jan falling on a Sunday 

I'd love to have a game down here, or maybe more realistically Dunedin due to a bigger and better stadium. Been a hot minute since the Nix played in the south

January 25th the Dunners scarfies would still be out of town? If so definitely not Forysth Barr.

Addington holds 17,000. That's enough. It's actually not a bad venue in the summer months. Close to the action, boutique size. But I went there for the British Lions vs Crusaders mid winter rugby game in 2017. Freezing cold, a mudbath all around the scaffolding seating area, toilets, food & drink areas all pretty average.

But yeah Nix might as well take the CCM match there in January next year, build relationships with Mainland Football and potential Canterbury sponsors, businesses etc. Laying the groundwork for annual visits to the new flashy roofed stadium from 2026.
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over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago · History
coochiee
SamCoughlan
coochiee
Half a Pint
From the Phoenix website:
The club are only considering taking one game out of Wellington, against the Central Coast Mariners on Saturday, January 25.

Christchurch?

Note Monday January 27th is a holiday in Australia next year, Australia Day 26th Jan falling on a Sunday 

I'd love to have a game down here, or maybe more realistically Dunedin due to a bigger and better stadium. Been a hot minute since the Nix played in the south

January 25th the Dunners scarfies would still be out of town? If so definitely not Forysth Barr.

Addington holds 17,000. That's enough. It's actually not a bad venue in the summer months. Close to the action, boutique size. But I went there for the British Lions vs Crusaders mid winter rugby game in 2017. Freezing cold, a mudbath all around the scaffolding seating area, toilets, food & drink areas all pretty average.

But yeah Nix might as well take the CCM match there in January next year, build relationships with Mainland Football and potential Canterbury sponsors, businesses etc. Laying the groundwork for annual visits to the new flashy roofed stadium from 2026.
People make a big deal about Dunedin Stadium games and if its Uni holidays or not.
There are heaps of football fans dedicated to grass roots football right through Central Otago and Southland not just in Dunedin. Deserving of an opportunity to see the AW's at Forsyth Barr.
Students are not guaranteed to buy tickets. The main reason you see so many of them at Highlanders games is because O week participation includes free tickets to Highlanders games. So they are essentially attending for free. Which is a great imitative by Otago rugby. But I don't think whether its uni holidays or not should be a determining factor on holding games of this level at Forsyth Barr. Look how well The Football ferns were supported when they played there. That wasn't a student fest. 

Edit. Lost track thought comments were about AW games in the south for WC qualifying. Comment still applies for a one off Nix game though, though to a lesser degree.
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over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago · History
The Nix played at FB years ago (Roar?) the crowd was tiny, and all the post match stuff I read was it was big mistake not having the game when the students were back

Similar to Highlanders you’d tie it in somehow to the Orientation festivities 

All moot though. Dome seems keen on games in ChCh going off the podcast recently. It’s a bigger population and commercial market than Dunners after all, and the club apparently have a good existing relationship with Mainland Football.
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over 1 year ago
coochiee
The Nix played at FB years ago (Roar?) the crowd was tiny, and all the post match stuff I read was it was big mistake not having the game when the students were back

Similar to Highlanders you’d tie it in somehow to the Orientation festivities 

All moot though. Dome seems keen on games in ChCh going off the podcast recently. It’s a bigger population and commercial market than Dunners after all, and the club apparently have a good existing relationship with Mainland Football 

I was at that Roar game!

IIRC, it was the first event at FB since it opened and it was packed with people mostly wanting to see the new stadium rather than how the Nix were looking in preseason. We lost about 6-1, and I think we had both Maceo Rigters and Billy Mehmet trialing with us before other sides snapped them up.

Memories!
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over 1 year ago
I went down for a game against Melbourne Heart.1-0 win with a goal from Jeremy Brockie. Crowd was just over 3000. Nix have never been back since.
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dunnix
coochiee
The Nix played at FB years ago (Roar?) the crowd was tiny, and all the post match stuff I read was it was big mistake not having the game when the students were back

Similar to Highlanders you’d tie it in somehow to the Orientation festivities 

All moot though. Dome seems keen on games in ChCh going off the podcast recently. It’s a bigger population and commercial market than Dunners after all, and the club apparently have a good existing relationship with Mainland Football 

I was at that Roar game!

IIRC, it was the first event at FB since it opened and it was packed with people mostly wanting to see the new stadium rather than how the Nix were looking in preseason. We lost about 6-1, and I think we had both Maceo Rigters and Billy Mehmet trialing with us before other sides snapped them up.

Memories!

That was the same match Ifill, at the time, became our all-time leading goalscorer.

Sorry my bad, I meant the December 2011 Roar fixture, forgot we versed them at FB in preseason as well.

Annoyingly it was Mehmet who ended up taking that Glory finals game to extra time where we obviously know what happened.
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ChCh is also geographically pretty central in the SI, and football fans will drive there from Dunners, Nelson, Cheviot, Granity or wherever. 

I reckon they will get 10K plus at Addington if the Nix are tracking well, next January (if they take the CCM game there). 20K plus in early 2026 when the sparkling new Te Kaha Stadium is first opened. Then 15K plus there ongoing in future seasons IF the Nix are not cellar dwellers. That's presuming it's just one Nix game per season in the Garden City, not two like Auckland got the last few years.

Surman leaves, another Cantab in Sheridan gets his chance. Luke Supyk. Tze-xuan Loke, Dublin Boon, Matt Foord other Mainlanders who might be in the first team one day. Heaps in the ALW squad.

I'll definitely go to a game at Te Kaha once it opens, and I live in Aussie. The stadium (walking distance to a rebuilding vibrant downtown) will be an attraction in itself for the first 3-5 years after it's completed.
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Maybe some visa players on loan out of Japan. Most be a few J1 reserve keepers good on the ball, keen on some playing time?

https://wellingtonphoenix.com/news/australia-cup-round-of-32-preview-2/

A new season offers new challenges, but Italiano is refreshed after the offseason break. 

“I went away to Thailand and Japan for an extended period. 

“Japan was an eyeopener in terms of football content and I got a lot of good ideas, met with a lot of clubs.

“It was a really special time for me.”
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over 1 year ago
Home game on Nov 2nd, could end up a Happy Birthday if the Nix win!!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 1 year ago
Watching the horrifying self destruction of the Wahs this year has me nervous.

Please please please Nix, don't have Chiefy be another coach that has an incredible year 1 and a terrible year 2.
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over 1 year ago
Bananas
Watching the horrifying self destruction of the Wahs this year has me nervous.

Please please please Nix, don't have Chiefy be another coach that has an incredible year 1 and a terrible year 2.
i think most of what happened with the warriors this season was not something the coach could change. Consistent injuries caused constant changes to the team lineup, especially the spine which was almost constantly in a state of change. If that happens to the Nix and we're forced to play mostly kids, there is a good chance we won't make the 6, chief couldn't be blamed for that.

That being said, what do we consider a good season when compared to last? I think I'd be happy with top 4 or even top 6 depending on how good other teams are. 
 
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over 1 year ago
anaveragestem
Bananas
Watching the horrifying self destruction of the Wahs this year has me nervous.

Please please please Nix, don't have Chiefy be another coach that has an incredible year 1 and a terrible year 2.
i think most of what happened with the warriors this season was not something the coach could change. Consistent injuries caused constant changes to the team lineup, especially the spine which was almost constantly in a state of change. If that happens to the Nix and we're forced to play mostly kids, there is a good chance we won't make the 6, chief couldn't be blamed for that.

That being said, what do we consider a good season when compared to last? I think I'd be happy with top 4 or even top 6 depending on how good other teams are. 
 
Obviously you always want to build on the previous year’s achievements so I’d love us to win something. But if we end up top 4 and win a finals game I’ll be happy.
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over 1 year ago
Not as important as making finals, or winning an actual trophy, but I imagine doing better than AFC overall in the 3 derby games, plus being higher than them on the ladder, will become a new measure of a successful season or not.
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over 1 year ago


No Central League action this weekend, so a nice pre season warm up win for the lads.

Still reckon Nathan Walker is a good shout for a scholarship contract too.
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over 1 year ago
coochiee
Not as important as making finals, or winning an actual trophy, but I imagine doing better than AFC overall in the 3 derby games, plus being higher than them on the ladder, will become a new measure of a successful season or not.
True. I don't want AFC to be bad - I think it would be really good for NZ if they were quite good actually. Us 1st and them 2nd will do nicely with us winning all the derby games 🔥🔥🔥
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over 1 year ago
YoungHeartHM


No Central League action this weekend, so a nice pre season warm up win for the lads.

Still reckon Nathan Walker is a good shout for a scholarship contract too.

Wish these weren't behind closed doors, would love to go to some preseason matches since we ain't seeing them till October.
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over 1 year ago
didn't they used to advertise these games? it is a shame they're all behind closed doors these days.
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over 1 year ago
claytonn
didn't they used to advertise these games? it is a shame they're all behind closed doors these days.
Yeah I went to the game vs Olympic last season and it was good fun, that game was either advertised or someone on this forum posted about it
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over 1 year ago
anaveragestem
Bananas
Watching the horrifying self destruction of the Wahs this year has me nervous.

Please please please Nix, don't have Chiefy be another coach that has an incredible year 1 and a terrible year 2.
i think most of what happened with the warriors this season was not something the coach could change. Consistent injuries caused constant changes to the team lineup, especially the spine which was almost constantly in a state of change. If that happens to the Nix and we're forced to play mostly kids, there is a good chance we won't make the 6, chief couldn't be blamed for that.

That being said, what do we consider a good season when compared to last? I think I'd be happy with top 4 or even top 6 depending on how good other teams are. 
 

It's not unique to the Wahs.  Off the top of my head when Todd Payton went to the Cowboy's they had an incredible season, then had an atrocious second season.

And I feel like I've seen heaps more examples of it.

I almost think that the number of kids Chief will have may be our chance to dodge that bullet as he has a lot of new players to mould.

For me, making the 4 would still be an incredible season, but honestly exciting games that keep me engaged and we at least consistently have a fighting chance.
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over 1 year ago
Part of it is other teams working you out in the second season and in the Wahs case, SJ regressing back to poor form cuz of injuries etc.

Chief will change how he sets us up as they is dependent on the players he has, rather than fitting players into a system. Hopefully that allows him to avoid those second season blues.
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