SKY Coverage

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As long as it's not bumped for re-runs of Bass fishing greats I understand Sky's point of view. The first time it's bumped for world triathlon hi-lights or a repeat of a 6 day old league game I'll get frothy.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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liverpoolfan1 wrote:

Just got the SKY guide for August. From what I can see, eight of the 20 A-League games in August are live, including all three Phoenix games. The rest are all delayed by up to a day, but some as little as an hour.

Not as bad as they blatantly were last year at least. Remember the delayed games that werent shown for the first time until after the highlights show,a lot of games were first shown on wednesday.

Still rubbish though. "live sport,Live sport - except 'soccer'"

Allegedly

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Hard News wrote:

Agree with this.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

which is what was happening last year,so the angst was justified. if there are 2 league and 1 union game on live at the same time then not a lot can be done (assuming opening up the highlights channel isnt an option). as long as delayed coverage is within a reasonable time also,something else that didnt happen last year with a lot of games not being shown until midweek.Tegal2010-07-29 16:33:09

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Paulinho wrote:

Hard News wrote:

Agree with this.

Yep.Better than last season is good, but kayaking instead of A-League live would get me ..
rapidly paddled off.

Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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Tegal wrote:

There is often two league games on at a time. If an A-League game is also on at the same time as two league games and one rugby, I think it is reasonable for us to expect they should drop one of the league games and show the football, showing the dropped league game after the other. Surely more people will watch one A-League game rather than two NRL games at the same time. I'm not sure what happened last year when this situtation arose (if it did) but this is what I would expect to happen if it did.

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Footpaul wrote:

Tegal wrote:

I'm pretty sure ratings for non-Phoenix A-League matches are paltry. Think more folks would watch the NRL, no matter how many were on at the same time. If it was an Toyota Cup match then maybe.

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When Sky started showing most of the games last season I watched at least 2 live and the rest were MySky'd and I watched them throughout the rest of the week. I am not sure how MySky works in terms of viewing numbers. If I record a match on MySky but don't watch it live, yet still watch it days after - do I still count as a viewer in Sky's little stat book?

Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic

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I'm looking at the schedule now and programming the MySky. It's a bit weird. It says it there is a replay of the Adelaide/Jets game at 2am on Wednesday - I can't find the original schedule for the match, then there is the Heart/Mariners game Live at 9.30pm on Thursday on Sky Sport 3, which is replayed almost immediately at midnight on SS1. Why not show a replay of a different game? It is midnight so it isn't like they are replaying it straight away to capture an audience...

Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The Wednesday before the Heart Mariners opener ?

How's my driving? - Whine here

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mikecj wrote:

That's the first match of the season so there aren't any other matches - unless they were to show Nix vs Boca or something.

I don't know how the MySky thing works with viewing numbers - isn't the whole thing done by taking a sample survey where respondents get an extra black box recorder attachment thingy?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Or maybe replay Sydney's 5-3 thrashing in the festival of the football

Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic

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mikecj wrote:

Or maybe replay Sydney's 5-3 thrashing in the festival of the football

Or maybe come and live in Oz and get every game live.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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mikecj wrote:

SS3 is not HD, so sometimes replay on SS1/2 (in HD) is useful for MySkying at least. They sometimes do the same thing with Formula 1 (another "minority" sport which has always been a must see in our house, although normally has to be recorded because of late time on a work/school night - we will still watch in spite of Ferrari cheating!)

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mikecj wrote:

Others have already told you that there is only ONE game on the Thursday evening.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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It's absolute nonsense. It's pretty clear to everyone (other than Sky) that football has 'taken off' here in a big way, much more so than even as recently as this time last year, and surely there would be more of an audience for it?

We KNOW they can get other channels as they did for the winter olympics etc so Sky are clearly adopting an attitude that they don't really care.

Even though there will surely be more interest in the Phoenix this year, what's the chances there will still be no pre/post/half time match analysis? Pretty high I would expect.

I would think a football channel is viable and the rights to Bundesliga etc are probably a bit less than you might think...and of course there's the SPL too! $500 and a packet of crisps for that coverage but I'd be subscribing if it was on and there are plenty of other Scots who would too...if you did the same thing for other countries + Championship (plenty English here supporting the championship teams) then I think it could work.

Any entrepreneurs on here fancy giving it a shot...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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I think you overestimate how many people would actually watch it...A football channel is not viable here. Not that many people watch 2 aussie teams play average football,so it is completely fair that if there are 3 other higher rating live games of sport on at the same time,that A league would get bumped,as long as there is delayed coverage within a reasonable timeframe (not midweek).

I agree,I actually think itd be possible for them to open up the highlights channel for such games,and think they should do so. But i dont actually know the costs of this or how it works,so am working on the assumption that it isnt possible.

As soon as games get bumbed for golf highlights or anything that isnt Live sport,as happened last year,Ill be the first to change my stance.

Allegedly

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I think it's viable - how can they ever know if it isn't trialled? How many on here would pay, say $10 a month more for a football channel? Possibly a fair few.

It certainly doesn't have to be on air 24/7. I reckon more people would subscribe to this than would tune into your average A-League game.

I think there might be more people tune into the likes of Rangers v Celtic than would for Perth v North Queensland and games like that.

I also think if the Aussies can manage to show all games, we can too - they are pretty much watching that very same 'higher rating live sport' at the same time as well.

Steve-O2010-07-31 13:56:29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

thats like saying america has nuclear weapons so we should be able to also..apples and oranges.

Allegedly

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I agree that a football channel is not viable. I don't believe the appetite for no Nix A-League is that high among football fans other than Phoenix nuts. Additionally, most live international and clubfootball is on in the early hours of the morning our time, so I don't think ratings would be that high.

I still maintain that should rugby and two league games be on at the same time as an A-League game, the live A-League should bump one of the league games, which should be played afterwards. Just in the interest of fairness. And replays should never bump an A-League live game, or any live sports for that matter.

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Tegal wrote:

thats like saying america has nuclear weapons so we should be able to also..apples and oranges.

Not really. Ok there's a bigger population, but football is still a minority sport there but is well catered for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Footpaul wrote:

I still maintain that should rugby and two league games be on at the same time as an A-League game, the live A-League should bump one of the league games, which should be played afterwards. Just in the interest of fairness. And replays should never bump an A-League live game, or any live sports for that matter.

I bet they would be higher than on the endless replays and other rubbish they show overnight. And they manage to show the EPL through the night? If the EPL could be shifted onto any prospective football channel, then it could well be viable.

Additionally there are plenty of highlights packages etc that could be shown at 'normal' times.

As the for 2 NRL games at once, surely Sky has the capacity to introduce interactive technology where you could press the 'red button' on your remote and watch whatever game you wanted?

This is done in the UK (and I think Australia) where, for example, you have the choice of 6 Champions League games via the red button.

Of course, all of the above is wishful thinking, but whilie I may overestimate the appeal of such a channel, some of you may be underestimating!

Steve-O2010-07-31 18:28:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

What is the lineup for this week? Don't get Skywatch so can't check...

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Friday.
Live
- Phoenix vs. Gold Coast - 7pm - SS2
Delayed Coverage
- Heart vs. Jets - 11.30pm - SS2

Saturday.
Live
- Melbourne Voctory vs. Glory - 9:30pm - SS3

Sunday.
Delayed Coverage
- Fury vs. Sydney - 10am - SS2
- Central Coast vs. Adelaide - 8pm - SS2

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

BIG ups to sky for the football league highlights show today at 7pm on ss2!

Awesome IMO and hope thats something theyre doing all season!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

richierich8 wrote:

BIG ups to sky for the football league highlights show today at 7pm on ss2!

Awesome IMO and hope thats something theyre doing all season!

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richierich8 wrote:

BIG ups to sky for the football league highlights show today at 7pm on ss2!

Awesome IMO and hope thats something theyre doing all season!

This.
I have checked the online programme guide and it's scheduled for 6:30pm next Monday, immediately before the Premier League Review show.

I'm going to send them a thank you email (a little different from previous correspondence!) and also suggest that if there is more positive feedback they may wish to consider the longer version which contains extended highlights (BBC shows a 75 minute's "Football League Show" - although I expect there are quite different rights issues to the shortened highlights Sky showed).

I know, I know, its serious!

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Turfmoore wrote:

richierich8 wrote:

BIG ups to sky for the football league highlights show today at 7pm on ss2!

Awesome IMO and hope thats something theyre doing all season!

Send heaps of thank you emails! :)

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

What's this football league show? The Championship and League 1 and 2? I am astonished.

Still no SPL though...only then can I forgive...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Stefan wrote:

no replays then?

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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Steve-O wrote:

Footpaul wrote:

Additionally there are plenty of highlights packages etc that could be shown at 'normal' times.

As the for 2 NRL games at once, surely Sky has the capacity to introduce interactive technology where you could press the 'red button' on your remote and watch whatever game you wanted?

This is done in the UK (and I think Australia) where, for example, you have the choice of 6 Champions League games via the red button.

Of course, all of the above is wishful thinking, but whilie I may overestimate the appeal of such a channel, some of you may be underestimating!

This isnt the UK or Australia. It is sh*tty little NZ with a population of 4million. We only just got Tivo and mysky etc.

It also cost money to get the rights to show those games in the early hours of the morning,so while it would rate very slightly higher than a replay of something,itd also cost them more for maybe a handful more viewers. The Uk and Australia have economies of scale,those games in the early hours of the morning,proportianately would rate the same in Aus,but theyd still get a lot more people,therefore it is more likely to be worth it.

You have to stop with the "they do it in other countries" argument because it doesn't stack up. The rugby channel barely survives here and that is our national sport,how do you think a channel dedicated to our 3d or possibly even 4th rated sport would go,with most of the games being played between 1am and 4am?

Allegedly

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I'm a shift worker. MySky is a godsend. Also depending on the shift I am doing, I am one of those nerds who watches sport between the hours of 12am and 6am. But I MySky EVERYTHING, I rarely watch anything live or as it is broadcast now and I feel that apart from some live events this OnDemand culture of TiVo, MySky, MyFreeview and On Demand services through the internet via devices such as PS3's could become the norm.

You can tell that I am a new father who is currently on early shifts at the moment. my lack of sleep is apparent in my rambling post but the point I am trying to make is...because I record everything, I end up getting effectively my own "football" channel. Over the course of 2 days I will have stacked up a mass of 10, 12 games sometimes, more than enough to satisfy me during the time I am not working, and the baby is sleeping.

I know that not everyone is stupid enough to work shifts like I am, but I think that people are starting to have a lot more control on what they can and want to watch. Whats more, if they can't find it on Television, they can usually find it on the internet - the obvious example for me is Poker. I watch a stupid amount of poker considering the nature of the game. I really shouldn't watch it, but I am strangely drawn to it. The coverage on NZ television is limited at best, The WSOP and a few other smaller events maybe - but there is so much more on YouTube, and my partner loves it how I chew up our Data cap watching poker on YouTube.

Networks know that consumers will search out their desired content and will adapt. Internet onDemand is in my mind evidence of this.

Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic

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yeah I have been thinking about mysky for a LONG time. But I'm with Telstra, and they haven't got one yet.
Am very pissed that they said it would be ready for the WC but wasn't.

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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I have to say that after having MySky for some time now, I'm not sure how I ever got by without it. I can't usually watch the 6pm news at 6pm, but I never miss it now. Plus I can watch both channel's sports news in full. Live pause is perfect for a small interruption to sports viewing and being able to stack 10-12 games and then pick and choose when I get time to actually watch them is brilliant. It's the best thing ever.

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Turfmoore wrote:

richierich8 wrote:

BIG ups to sky for the football league highlights show today at 7pm on ss2!

Awesome IMO and hope thats something theyre doing all season!

just sent them a "thank you" before reading this (and yep, it made a nice change)

couldn't find an email addy but this worked

http://skytv.custhelp.com/app/ask

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Steve-O wrote:

What's this football league show? The Championship and League 1 and 2? I am astonished.

Still no SPL though...only then can I forgive...

Yeah, what are you lads talking about and when is it on?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yer sorry I'm still not happy. I think that if there are 2 live games of league on, plus English cricket, that one of the league games can be delayed until after the other. Then we can watch live A-League.

I let my guitar speak for me

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If live A-League games rated as well and therefore had as much value as the league games then Sky would bump them.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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newzealandpower wrote:

Stefan wrote:

no replays then?

I think there is a replay of the nix game at like 2am or something.
I didn't go into any depth though.

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loyalgunner wrote:

Steve-O wrote:

What's this football league show? The Championship and League 1 and 2? I am astonished.

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Still no SPL though...only then can I forgive...

Yeah, what are you lads talking about and when is it on?

10pm tonight sky sport 2

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