Threat by ACC to wind up Phoenix

You are accusing the Dom Post of colluding with WRFU on this. That is such utter utter rubbish.

I choose to believe that it is unrelated.

Correct.

Shooting would be too nice. I�d use torture

I guess you'll only know if you're very close to him.

Somewhat.

I have said merely that the Dom Post will go out of its way to publish a bad story about the Phoenix (see Saturday's effort), and that a key competitor to the Phoenix has a large media and marketing relationship with the Dom Post.

I'm not saying there is collusion between WRFU & DomPost, but like most newspapers (which sell eyeballs to advertisers, not newspapers to punters) a overwriting commercial imperative to look after their advertisers and marketing partners.

[oh, and the WRFU & NZRFU are run by largely clueless idiots, and that Rugby players should be able to cope with a few more games per season without falling down.]

If this was anyone else apart from the Phoenix everyone else would be saying "fair enough, they don't pay after warnings then take them to court".

I just think its great that so many people get worked up about the finances of the Phoenix and the media deem the state of the PHoenix of such public interest as to warrant front page news.

A very informed analysis I�m sure

so if the acc win this thing, the nix are gone burgers ?

ACC levies have rocketed up for many employers recently. It would not surprise me if the analysis underpinning the increase is limited (or at least challengeable) - but that is probably the case for many others. ACC payments are not always fair to the individual business, but ACC will be highly reluctant to make concessions (especially now its public) bc that would only invite every other business with a major ACC grizzle to not pay. Marius Lacatus2010-09-28 13:07:51

Terry's paying it back today according to various news outlets

My contention is that it is the Nixs "fault" should have either been paid or sorted, but I am just astounded that the ACC is making these private matters very public. Once it goes before a court, fair enough it is then public record, unless surpressed, but at this stage the ACC should be saying nothing publicly.

It is the papers responsibilty, like Centry City Football Ltd, to maximise its return to its owners.

Companies don't have rights per se.

Of course Dom Post has every right to pubish this story. There is a question though as to whether ACC should be stoking the media so actively. It may well see this as a high profile opportunity to signal to other employers that they will take a hardline with companies that dont pay their ACC bills.

Does the privacy act apply only to individuals, not to companies? Can't seem to clarify this point...

Yes it applies to companies

From what I have read so far, it is related to Century City Football. I'm no accountant....business guy though...I don't know how it works.

But I somewhat agree with Marius, high profile, showing everyone that ACC wants its money, scaring other businesses etc.

Just like the rates thing, I'm sure it will be resolved.

It will be much cheaper for the ACC to just get the money from CCF that to liquidate the WPX. If therry says he has the money then they'll accept it i guess.
CCF might get a fine though

Dont know, and strangely until now I didn't care.

1. IMHO the Doom Post is running a vindictive campaign against Terry (who knows why) however this is a legimate story. Aside from the vindictive campaign what erks me is I can sense (through article headlines and tone) the pleasure some little f**k at the Doom Post is getting out of this and similar stories.

Every NZ footballer should go to their physio today and claim ACC for an an injury and get treatment every day til we bankrupt ACC( before they liquidate CC)

From the Phoenix site:

"Twelve months ago to the day (Wednesday), professional football in New Zealand was rescued when Wellington property developer Terry Serepisos and Century City Football secured a three-year sub-licence to run a team in the Hyundai A-League"

So Century City Football own the sub-license, but may or may not be the holding company that owns the Phoenix.

This is crazy. We pay huge fess to the ACC as well as a lot of money to our insurance company for our players which we have to by FFA. Our battle has always been about why we pay  so much to the ACC when our claim is nowhere near the levy we pay. But they are a stubborn department. Rest assured the Phoenix will not fold, Terry will never let that happen.

I was never maintaining a conspiracy either- but I fundamentally agree with the above, and count the dom post as a key part of the rugby fraternity.

1. ACC report Century City Football has missed several years of payments. Just how long has the Nix been around. Not several.
2. Keith Mclea is involved in the WRFU and not just a season holder.
3. Until now I liked him. Now he is just a prat as his decisions are affecting more than just a business and unpaid levies. It has implications to many many people. All who pay levies too.
4. If any player gets hurt in NZ they are covered by ACC NZ. If one of ours get hurt in Aus they are covered by ACC and rehab is here in NZ.  Terry should have paid ACC and not Aussie.

Waiting till two PM for the press conference!

LATEST: Phoenix football club owner Terry Serepisos has just confirmed a bank cheque for $260,000 of unpaid levies would reach ACC today if it has not already done so.

"It is being paid 100 per cent.  I can tell you hand on heart if it has not already been done (paid) already it will be by two o'clock," Mr Serepisos said.

The Phoenix football club has announced it will hold a press conference at 2pm to address the move by ACC to put it into liquidation.

skylab892010-09-28 13:40:07

It didn't need clearing up for the majority of the Yellow Fever   

Case closed.

Either way BOB they have been quoted in the paper and by ACC's number two corporate management official. If they were approached by the paper traditionally and correctly they line should have been NO COMMENT. I know cause I used to work there and PRIVACY was then very important.

Official information act only applies when the Privacy Act is not in contention. In this case it probably could be a breach being quoted so explicitly  It would not be a matter of public record untill the judge had received the application and made an interium judgement. A minister of Parliament got racked over the coals for breaking privacy about $ values and this is no different.


skylab892010-09-28 13:52:20

Shirts off...

Which does say:

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1982/0156/latest/DLM65371.html#DLM65371

So there is a degree of interpretation around who's interests are balanced.

(Levy payers right to know v's Phoenix's commercial considerations).

Official Information act has nothing to do with it. If a journo is digging the CEO of ACC should be saying no comment. This is akin to the tax department discussing my arrears (if I had any) in the press.... not that they would be interested of course.