We should do what the All Blacks do....plunder the Pacific Islander
footballers and make them kiwis.!!!
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We should do what the All Blacks do....plunder the Pacific Islander
footballers and make them kiwis.!!!
im sorry but ive read this enough. if you are going to make
statements at least make them true, the only player in the current
all blacks who you could truly make this claim about is sitiveni
sivivatu, all the others moved here many years ago with familys to
improve there chances in life.
but back to the topic, i would like to see the nix develop new
zealand football. i think it is a good vehicle for that purpose but
i think we should walk before we run. give it 2 or 3 seasons to
make sure the club is ticking over and then lets look to add new
dimensions
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Let's just hope there are positive spin-offs at every level.
Increasing the length of the season in NZ will produce better
players here that will stand a better chance of becoming Phoenix
players, or pros elsewhere.
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We should do what the All Blacks do....plunder the Pacific Islander
footballers and make them kiwis.!!!
im sorry but ive read this enough. if you are going to make
statements at least make them true, the only player in the current
all blacks who you could truly make this claim about is sitiveni
sivivatu, all the others moved here many years ago with familys to
improve there chances in life.
but back to the topic, i would like to see the nix develop new
zealand football. i think it is a good vehicle for that purpose but
i think we should walk before we run. give it 2 or 3 seasons to
make sure the club is ticking over and then lets look to add new
dimensions
I understand your concern about needing to do things gradually
bopman, to ensure that existing things are bedded down well before
undertaking new ventures. While some things, I
think, can wait a while (such as realistically aiming to win
the A-League), waiting 2 or 3 seasons after the Aussies have set up
a youth legaue would be too late and detrimental to the
Phoenix.
The Aussie clubs would have a huge advantage over us by
having a head start in the youth league both in relation to the
A-League and the youth A-League. In relation to the A-League
they would immediately have larger squads to select
from. Additionally, in terms of the youth league involvement,
they would be building a solid platform from which to develop and
progress football. The Phoenix would be left behind in a
catch-up position.
As I said in my previous post above, I think the youth
league, and the Phoenix's involvement from the start, is
crucial to the Phoenix and to NZ football generally. I
thinks we have to be in there from the beginning on this
one, and if the FFA refuses us inclusion in the youth league,
it would create an unlevel playing field between the Aussie clubs
and the Phoenix.
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Ok. 11 pages long and really can't read 'em all.
Summary please...
I let my guitar speak for me
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Ok. 11 pages long and really can't read 'em all.
Summary please...
1. We were going to sign Andrew Dewhurst and Prince Phillip, but now we're not so sure
2. Rangers sh*t on Northern Spirit and we should look at organising to become friends with a club like Stockport County, so we can steal all their best players off them
3. We're going to sign loads of Fijian, Tongan and Samoan rugby players so that they can play for the All Whites
4. A Welsh club team will never win the World Cup
5. Newcastle Jets want to sign Montgomery Burns
6. Doesn't matter where he was born or where he grew up, Shane Smeltz is a Kiwi
7. Apparently there's a bloke with one arm playing for QPR (Don't know who his other arm is playing for!!!)
That about covers it, I think
Jag2008-01-10 23:45:22
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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A couple of things about Kevin Phillips...
1 - he's currently on a little over $20k/week. WBA
had to outbid Sunderland to sign him last season and gave him a
very tasty contract to get him to sign.
2 - he's settled in the midlands, the other deciding factor in
his move to WBA rather than Sunderland was that he wouldn't have to
move his wife and kids.
3 - he thought he was finished when he got injured earlier
this season.
4 - if WBA get promoted they'll almost certainly release
him. If they don't they'll offer him a 1 year deal on reduced
cash.
I'd say the chances of him joining Nix are slim - there's a
lot of clubs in the midlands who'd probably offer him good terms
for the next couple of years (Coventry, Wolves, even Walsall -
especially if they go up this year). Still, never say
never.
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Phillips and Durante fine, both class for sure. Good point made on
World of Football about Australia perhaps not footing it in the
Asian Confederation because they play too much of an English style
game in the A-league. Nothing wrong with that as such, as I see it,
but could we perhaps be looking in Asia or elsewhere if Phillips
fell through? There are plenty of footballers of a very high
calibre in the world. The point was that in many other parts of the
world, the football is more about close skills, ball control and
retention, and controlling the tempo, and not such a hectic,
full-on, hard tackling game. What would players such as Phillips
and Durante provide? The immediate answer is, 'another goalscorer
and a good solid defender to shore up the leaky defence.'
Any other views on this? Where do we think the
A-league/Phoenix are in the equation? Do we want a very English
styled team, or should there be more players from other parts of
the world? Ok, we'll leave the Brazilians out of the equation for a
minute! Seo for instance is the only Asian player in the A-league.
Unusual given that Australia is now in Asia.
Not stupid - Shinji Ono and Naohiro Takahara are both back in Japan after stints in Europe. However, Takahara has signed with Urawa Reds, AFC Champion's League Winners.
I feel the biggest problems will be many West Asians are making plenty of coin at home, and will be difficult to tempt here, East Asians are often perceived as too slight to make in the British/European leagues. As you said, A-League style is more English than Asian at presentwolfman2008-01-11 04:42:30
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Another thing - the J-League and K-League seasons end Oct/Nov
(depending if you're in the p/offs). We could look at guest/loan
players from them, and get 12 or so games + playoffs out of them.
There may be other leagues that are off when A-Leagues is on too.
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Gary Megson, Ricki Herbert, I know who I'd rather play for!
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[QUOTE=Ronaldunno]We should do what the All Blacks do....plunder
the Pacific Islander footballers and make them kiwis.!!!
im sorry but ive read this enough. if you are going to make
statements at least make them true, the only player in the current
all blacks who you could truly make this claim about is sitiveni
sivivatu, all the others moved here many years ago with familys to
improve there chances in life.
Sorry I stand corrected!!!
What I should have said was that NZ rugby plunders the Pacific Islands.
Club rugby and first XV rugby are full of Pacific Islanders who have been recruited(plundered) under often bogus "academic" scholarships. Of course they will come here to better their lives.
What I'm saying is that NZ football should keep an eye out for talented PI footballers to strengthen the game here. We don't always have to rush to Europe or Brazil for talent.
Who knows there might be another Tim Cahill lurking somewhere in Samoa!!!!
By the way....Sivivatu came to NZ as a teenager under a "academic" scholarship to play football...he switched to rugby later....at St Stephens college I think.
p.s profound appologies for soiling a football site with rugby....personally I hate reugby
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[QUOTE=Ronaldunno]We should do what the All Blacks do....plunder
the Pacific Islander footballers and make them kiwis.!!!
im sorry but ive read this enough. if you are going to make
statements at least make them true, the only player in the current
all blacks who you could truly make this claim about is sitiveni
sivivatu, all the others moved here many years ago with familys to
improve there chances in life.
Sorry I stand corrected!!!
What I should have said was that NZ rugby plunders the Pacific Islands.
Club rugby and first XV rugby are full of Pacific Islanders who have been recruited(plundered) under often bogus "academic" scholarships. Of course they will come here to better their lives.
What I'm saying is that NZ football should keep an eye out for talented PI footballers to strengthen the game here. We don't always have to rush to Europe or Brazil for talent.
Who knows there might be another Tim Cahill lurking somewhere in Samoa!!!!
By the way....Sivivatu came to NZ as a teenager under a "academic" scholarship to play football...he switched to rugby later....at St Stephens college I think.
p.s profound appologies for soiling a football site with rugby....personally I hate reugby
Stop with the rugby please!!
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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Sorry...will never mention the R game again
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Rugby? Whats rugby? Oh and why cant we sigh Phillips? Sydney signed
Dwight York and he plays in the premership and dear I mention
it we signed Elrich from the premership as well
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Rugby? Whats rugby? Oh and why cant we sigh Phillips? Sydney signed
Dwight York and he plays in the premership and dear I mention
it we signed Elrich from the premership as well
he makes a fair point, the distinction would have to be though
that phillips still seems to be playing great football and scoring
goals and you couldnt say that about either yorke or elrich
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A couple of things about Kevin Phillips...
1 - he's currently on a little over $20k/week. WBA
had to outbid Sunderland to sign him last season and gave him a
very tasty contract to get him to sign.
2 - he's settled in the midlands, the other deciding factor in
his move to WBA rather than Sunderland was that he wouldn't have to
move his wife and kids.
3 - he thought he was finished when he got injured earlier
this season.
4 - if WBA get promoted they'll almost certainly release
him. If they don't they'll offer him a 1 year deal on reduced
cash.
I'd say the chances of him joining Nix are slim - there's a
lot of clubs in the midlands who'd probably offer him good terms
for the next couple of years (Coventry, Wolves, even Walsall -
especially if they go up this year). Still, never say
never.
I can guarantee that Wolves won't sign him, under any circumstances. Walsall won't be able to afford his wages, Coventry may if they can sort out their takeover, but he isn't really a Dowie sort of player. I think the odds are that he'll stay at the s**t, whatever happens to them concerning promotion to the prem.
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Great Summary Benjamin, can we maybe separate the development of NZ
& Phoenix football and transfer speculation for next season
into 2 separate threads?
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Ok. 11 pages long and really can't read 'em all.
Summary please...
7. Apparently there's a bloke with one arm playing for QPR (Don't know who his other arm is playing for!!!)
I thought he played drums for Def Leppard?
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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What, his other arm? Or the QPR guy? 
I've seen Rick Allen playing with Def Leppard. Amazing.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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is it handball if the ball hits his stump
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Is he allowed to take Throw Ins?
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Apparently he was going to raise money for charity by rowing across
the Atlantic single-handed 
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Heres your coat jag... 
chocnut2008-01-11 15:22:52
chocnut2008-01-11 15:22:52
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Staying on the one-armed theme, I'm pretty sure that one of the
Uruguay forwards who played in the first ever World Cup final only
had one arm, and I think he may even have scored in the final where
Uruguay beat Argentina 4-2 in Montevideo.
Maybe we should try to sign him.
Maybe we should try to sign him.
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Staying on the one-armed theme, I'm pretty sure that one of the
Uruguay forwards who played in the first ever World Cup final only
had one arm, and I think he may even have scored in the final where
Uruguay beat Argentina 4-2 in Montevideo.
Maybe we should try to sign him.
Maybe we should try to sign him.
Someone would have to hold the paper still!!!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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"Doctor, doctor. I can't feel my legs"
"I know, we've cut your arms off!"
Coat's on, taxi's waiting........
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Someone would have to hold the paper still!!!
Snarf.
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Leave these 'armless men alone you bullies
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Hey, somebody's got to shoulder the responsibility of getting all
these bad puns in....
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Leave Jag alone, his puns are 'armless!!!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Just lending a Helping Hand!!!
C-Diddy2008-01-11 15:26:20
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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best page on this forum in a long time
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He was going to rob a bank, using a shotgun. Luckily the police managed to disarm him.........
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I heard he plays cricket unfortunately he always get
stumped....chocnut2008-01-11 15:33:41
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I might be going out on a limb here, but I think this has turned
into quite a funny thread....
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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