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Phoenix City - Farewell

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over 7 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Feverish wrote:

are those two young aussies coming here going to eligible for an NZ u20 team (as per Cam)?

They're here already - they both played on Sunday - Rudan said they are eligible, we only have his word for it at the moment.

He said they are eligible for NZ u 20?

Rudan said they can play for New Zealand. As you can imagine, inquiries have been made to try to establish that is correct. They're both born 1999 so in the U-20 frame.

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over 7 years ago

New episode! http://yellowfever.co.nz/podcasts and in your podcast app of choice!

The Phoenix are back! Patrick jumps back into the pod team this week after the first round of the new season, featuring a debut win for Mark Rudan, a raft of VAR controversy, and a Wel Clasico full of goals in the Handy Prem.

https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/thekidsareallwh...


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over 7 years ago

Phoenix are back, Patrick is back, life is good!

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over 7 years ago

Brilliant - this will get me thru to lunch.


Just started listening and confess to cracking up at the intro. Must be a quiet day at the office!

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over 7 years ago

Thxs for the pod guys well done!.

Mr Positive

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over 7 years ago

cracking intro :)

Founder

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over 7 years ago

Great Pod, esp the intro

factcheck though - Cam was right - The last time we won the first game of the season (2-0 v Sydney, 2012-13) we finished last

Saturday was only the second time we have won the first game of the season. 

it was however the 4th time we have won the first HOME game of the season - in 2009-10 we beat Perth 2-1 and 2011 we beat Jets 2-0 but these were the second games of the season

Anyway good to have Pat back - theres a good balance that doesn't work as well when there's only 3 of you

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

Great Pod, esp the intro

factcheck though - Cam was right - The last time we won the first game of the season (2-0 v Sydney, 2012-13) we finished last

Saturday was only the second time we have won the first game of the season. 

it was however the 4th time we have won the first HOME game of the season - in 2009-10 we beat Perth 2-1 and 2011 we beat Jets 2-0 but these were the second games of the season

Anyway good to have Pat back - theres a good balance that doesn't work as well when there's only 3 of you

Ahhh crap this is where I was getting confused. Many apologies to Cam because I told him he was wrong when he very much correct!

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 7 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Great Pod, esp the intro

factcheck though - Cam was right - The last time we won the first game of the season (2-0 v Sydney, 2012-13) we finished last

Saturday was only the second time we have won the first game of the season. 

it was however the 4th time we have won the first HOME game of the season - in 2009-10 we beat Perth 2-1 and 2011 we beat Jets 2-0 but these were the second games of the season

Anyway good to have Pat back - theres a good balance that doesn't work as well when there's only 3 of you

Ahhh crap this is where I was getting confused. Many apologies to Cam because I told him he was wrong when he very much correct!

Not the first time, not the last time.

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over 7 years ago

Loving having the pod back nice and regular and footy to talk about.

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over 7 years ago

Feverish wrote:

cracking intro :)

Got to the station earlier today, plugged in the pod, & 5 seconds later, I'm giving it full Warbz. 

Fortunately, it's a small suburban station, & not many people are heading to work at 12:45pm.


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over 7 years ago

Did you guys record this week? Any guest on the show or coming up?.

Mr Positive

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over 7 years ago

We recorded on Thursday night so I'd imagine it will be out today. If not poke your sticks in Pat's direction. 

A few guests are planned and requested but timings as always are proving the sticking point - watch this space however as we will get them on eventually.

"He's operating a turnstile down the left flank"

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over 7 years ago

new pod. listen wherever you usually do.

The Phoenix came back from Brisbane with a point, can they continue their form so far into the WSW game this weekend? TeeDubs continued their season with a 3-0 win over Waitak and host their first home game of the season this weekend, and NZF have released their action plan following the Moir report.

https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/thekidsareallwh...


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over 7 years ago

Not listed yet in the pods my app can see

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 7 years ago

Hi team

Another quality podcast. Patrick - back to referee school for you

My two cents worth on the Bonevacia goal.

In the day and age where VAR is in use, ARs are now largely coached to keep the flag down for as long as possible because replay will clean it up - it picked up the offside, which is what happened. It’s designed to stop the situation my old mate ran into at WC2014 where a goal is ruled out when a player is onside.

If there was no VAR, and the flag goes up for O/S, we would not have the shot on goal and Joe Public has nothing to complain about. The outcome of where the ball ends up is what has caused the outcry when that is an immaterial outcome to the fact that play does not progress after the O/S - full stop, the end. That is fact and law.

As to the referee signal, blow the whistle and signal direction 1st. This is a fundamental. After that, you then signal if the restart is IDFK (arm up) or DFK (nothing). It’s how I have signalled every single O/S since about 2006 when it was pointed out to me my error and also how I coach other referees so don’t confuse what Chris Beath did or did not do at the time to interpret what his decision was. What is important, is did he go to position and THEN signal IDFK (which would acknowledge the O/S). Haven’t seen the footage to confirm that. If he does, then his “story” 100% stacks up with what he said after the game.

As for the ‘what does football expect’ line - yeah I’m hearing this more and it is valid - in certain situations. I’m hearing it more and more when referees want to justify softing out of a hard decision because they don’t have the stones to enforce the laws of the game.

An example of what would football expect: swap out Singh on his handball goal for a Jets defender but the ball does not go in. ‘Football’ would not expect a handball decision and penalty there because it’s a harsh call. ‘Football’ does not like seeing goals scored with the arm at all even accidentally. Hence you can have same situation, different shirt on, different outcomes because common sense. This situation here, where an offside situation occurred because an attacker in an O/S position interferes with a defender and his ability to challenge the play, is not a ‘football expects’ situation. It’s O/S, don’t pass go, don’t collect $200 bones. After that, what happens is immaterial.

A lot of people don’t like it, but had this been blasted over, no one would be arguing the nuance and would accept it. So how does the ball going in after the fact when an infringement occurs make a difference. The answer is that it does not.

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over 7 years ago

Congrats on 150 pods guys

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 7 years ago

Congrats on 150 pods guys

A shame that I picked the worst way possible to announce that news. 

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 7 years ago

pod jinx

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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over 7 years ago

Thanks Team!

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over 7 years ago

Next up: City Phoenix

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over 7 years ago

Good listen. Thanks.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 7 years ago

Did you guys record this week?

Mr Positive

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over 7 years ago

Recording in about 15 mins...

"He's operating a turnstile down the left flank"

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over 7 years ago

Hopefully Patrick is there. I only really care what he thinks.

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over 7 years ago

New pod!

The Phoenix have gone down 2-0 in an uninspiring performance, we discuss what can be changed to turn around the fortunes of the team. Meanwhile, Patrick goes on a rant about the VAR, and mixed fortunes for the Wellington teams in the Handy Prem.

https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/thekidsareallwh...


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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

Great passion about those hand balls.  

tldr - I thought they got the calls right

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Duras is more vulnerable to getting called for a penalty, imho, because his arm is outside his body and gives him a better chance of obstructing the flight of the ball.  So there is benefit, or potential motive, for his arm being where it was.  In the other case I think no way could you say that.

Watching both in real time I thought Dura might get away with it, but we'd need to be lucky, and no way that's a penalty for the other one. 

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

The individual magic so far has come from Singh, Rufer and Krishna.

Rufer hit a good long shot. Singh hit a good free kick, and has made openings , but has been scuffing shots. Krishna has made space, but there's no one in the box or only one to finish.    



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over 7 years ago

Gotta say, I'm a big fan of the intro music each week. 

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over 7 years ago

Great VAR rant... and now the EPL are introducing it. Can we please have their VAR refs and they have ours for a while?

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 7 years ago

New pod just came through to my app.  I wondered why the team were so eager to talk about the last game... turns out its pre-disaster.

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over 7 years ago

https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/thekidsareallwh...

"A bit of a late episode, recorded before all the football action from the weekend. With Team Wellington's imminent trip to the UAE to take part in the Club World Cup, we chat with head coach José Figueira. Elsewhere, Nix chat, FFA elections and"

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over 7 years ago

Is there a pod this week?>

Mr Positive

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over 7 years ago

Cool to hear you guys getting excited for the TW World Club tourney. Should be great.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 7 years ago

Editing it at the moment ?


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over 7 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Editing it at the moment ?

Looking forward to hearing how pumped up & excited you are about going to the match this weekend.

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