Hi team
Another quality podcast. Patrick - back to referee school for you
My two cents worth on the Bonevacia goal.
In the day and age where VAR is in use, ARs are now largely coached to keep the flag down for as long as possible because replay will clean it up - it picked up the offside, which is what happened. It’s designed to stop the situation my old mate ran into at WC2014 where a goal is ruled out when a player is onside.
If there was no VAR, and the flag goes up for O/S, we would not have the shot on goal and Joe Public has nothing to complain about. The outcome of where the ball ends up is what has caused the outcry when that is an immaterial outcome to the fact that play does not progress after the O/S - full stop, the end. That is fact and law.
As to the referee signal, blow the whistle and signal direction 1st. This is a fundamental. After that, you then signal if the restart is IDFK (arm up) or DFK (nothing). It’s how I have signalled every single O/S since about 2006 when it was pointed out to me my error and also how I coach other referees so don’t confuse what Chris Beath did or did not do at the time to interpret what his decision was. What is important, is did he go to position and THEN signal IDFK (which would acknowledge the O/S). Haven’t seen the footage to confirm that. If he does, then his “story” 100% stacks up with what he said after the game.
As for the ‘what does football expect’ line - yeah I’m hearing this more and it is valid - in certain situations. I’m hearing it more and more when referees want to justify softing out of a hard decision because they don’t have the stones to enforce the laws of the game.
An example of what would football expect: swap out Singh on his handball goal for a Jets defender but the ball does not go in. ‘Football’ would not expect a handball decision and penalty there because it’s a harsh call. ‘Football’ does not like seeing goals scored with the arm at all even accidentally. Hence you can have same situation, different shirt on, different outcomes because common sense. This situation here, where an offside situation occurred because an attacker in an O/S position interferes with a defender and his ability to challenge the play, is not a ‘football expects’ situation. It’s O/S, don’t pass go, don’t collect $200 bones. After that, what happens is immaterial.
A lot of people don’t like it, but had this been blasted over, no one would be arguing the nuance and would accept it. So how does the ball going in after the fact when an infringement occurs make a difference. The answer is that it does not.