vs Roar, Sun 12 Feb, 5 pm

I'm still pretty certain (but not 100% as I don't have 'smoking gun' replay) is that it wasn't offside. The best shot I could find is Berisha half a stride in fron of Durante, with the ball some well in the air already. From the shot, it's clear Berisha is in full stride, Durante at best is flat-footed, at worst has just stepped up. Extrapolating the situation to the moment the ball was passed, I'd say at worst Berisha was level with Durante, therefore not offside. But like I said, I've had a hard time finding a really good replay I could pause at the time the ball was passed.

Interestingly, in the TWs game earlier in the day, Musa made an almost identical challenge on Slefendorfas, penalty and a yellow card, and not a single soul at the ground grumbled about it. Durante's challenge I certainly didn't see as a shoulder to shoulder, it was pretty much a full body charge/check which is legal in ice hockey, but not in football.

Furthermore, I see a lot of people here have stated their first goal was offside - I have to say I was very interested to check this out, as watching it live I felt it was very close and I looked towards the AR as soon as Berisha received the ball. So I've looked at some replays, which are not completely conclusive. But based on the evidence within them, I'm 99.9% certain that Berisha was on and the goal is legitimate. The replay quite clearly shows that Durante was not very alert to danger, however. [/QUOTE]He was offside - get a new VCR
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As for Brown's challenge - and I'm speaking from memory here - he pretty much played the man, and not the ball, in a promising counter-attacking move by the opposition. Even if there isn't much contact (and remember, there DOES NOT have to be contact for a referee to blow up for a foul) I can easily see why a referee would want to caution a challenge like that with a yellow card.

Not sure if you have seen the replay yet, but at the time I rewound it on mysky and paused it on the frame when the ball was hit - it looked like, as I said, the feet were on, but the body was off. The AR looked to be a couple of metres out of position aswell.

I went back because I was fuming as I thought it was well off, but felt better after pausing it as it looked so close I couldn't really complain.

Berisha was offside.This screen grab is the exact moment the ball is played on the left hand side of the screen. Even at this angle it is pretty clear that Berisha is in front of Durante and at the angle the linesman saw it (he is right in line at the bottom of the screen) I think he should have seen it. Tight call, but it was offside.

If the ref thinks he did a great job, why leave by a side door.

Because some idiot would have probably thrown a bottle.

Berisha was offside.This screen grab is the exact moment the ball is played on the left hand side of the screen. Even at this angle it is pretty clear that Berisha is in front of Durante and at the angle the linesman saw it (he is right in line at the bottom of the screen) I think he should have seen it. Tight call, but it was offside.

Looks onside to me. I've frozen it too.

Not worth getting worked up over.

I thought if any part of their body was level with the defender, that they were onside.

He is leaning. It's also a pretty terrible angle. But they look to be even to me.

Berisha is right on the end of the darker green grass,it's hard to tell exactly where Durante is,but the closest nix player is JUST inside the darkest green...Durante is behind him so he is pretty much on the edge also.

Not worth getting worked up over,it's very close.

Look on the bright side,at least no one was asked to wear black.

Interesting you say that, the reason we mow that pattern is to assist with off sides. It's A-League regulation.

Interesting you say that, the reason we mow that pattern is to assist with off sides. It's A-League regulation.

Just gotta put it out there mate - the info you supply us about the stadium is always bloody interesting.
Now are there actually cats??

Oh come on El G, if we can see Durante's body at this angle then the linesman would have clearly seen Berisha in front of him (the linesman is looking right down that line in the grass).

You asked for proof, you got it.

But it's not clear - the only part of Berisha's body that's clearly in front of Durante is his arm, and that doesn't count. The others (head and torso) are much closer to Durante, and you need to be able to see where Durante's feet/hips/shoulders are to be able to firmly say offside or not, and you can't do that from this shot.

i wanted to know if there were really cats too, cant believe that there is

what are their names? who feeds them?

But it's not clear - the only part of Berisha's body that's clearly in front of Durante is his arm, and that doesn't count. The others (head and torso) are much closer to Durante, and you need to be able to see where Durante's feet/hips/shoulders are to be able to firmly say offside or not, and you can't do that from this shot.