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24 days ago · edited 24 days ago · History
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
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24 days ago
observerfromuh wrote:
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
Yup, comms and social media are not their strong points.  My 18 year old nephew could nail this.
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24 days ago · edited 24 days ago · History
Possibly every one is on holiday

Saying that I don’t want anyone to hassle Timothy - he needs to focus on figuring out how he is going to stop Marmoush, Doku and Trossard rather then playing on his instagram

Auckland will rise once more

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Turfmoore
24 days ago
The AFC socials team would no doubt be doing a lot better if the same thing had happened to Callan Elliot. A lot of that may be down to the fact that AFC throw a lot more money at advertising/marketing than we do/can though. 
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24 days ago
Let's definitely explore all the ways of somehow making this situation as negative as possible. Great idea.
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24 days ago
austin111 wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
Yup, comms and social media are not their strong points.  My 18 year old nephew could nail this.
Tell me you don’t follow nix socials without telling me you don’t follow nix socials.
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LG
24 days ago
Tommy already down to work earning his $250k

The All Whites are now set to have millions of people paying attention to them who otherwise might not have, as they face Haiti and England in friendlies next week, before turning their focus to their World Cup opener against Iran on June 15 (June 16 NZ time).

Centre back Tommy Smith said the way Payne's profile had "blown up" has "blown his mind".

"We're all asking him every day – you keep track of how many followers he's got.

"In this day and age it shows how quickly social media can take off and become viral.

"It's great for him and it's a nice little side story, but we obviously don't want that to become a distraction for him at the same time."
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24 days ago · edited 24 days ago · History
FFS Some of you really do need to take a think about why you bother coming to this site. In your haste to bash any thing the Nix does its time some of you sat down and had think about what you say. Maybe take the time to find out some stuff.
The Payne stuff has blown up in what the last 2/3 days yet some of you seem to be expecting the Phoenix to be leveraging and making money out of it.
Pretty sure know that he is with New Zealand Football there will be plenty of restrictions in place as to what can and cant be done in and around the world cup.
Just who you expect to making stuff to sell im not sure as many will vouch dealing with Dynasty and trying to get anything produced quickly just dosnt happen UNLESS your the Warriors.
Yet some STUPIDLY seem to think 2/3days after this story blew up the Nix should be out there making money out of it. Give yourselves a friggen upper cut thats some of the dumbest posts i have seen.
This place is getting worse if thats at all possible really wonder why some bother.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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24 days ago
Bullion wrote:
 austin111 wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
Yup, comms and social media are not their strong points.  My 18 year old nephew could nail this.
Tell me you don’t follow nix socials without telling me you don’t follow nix socials.
no memes are going to get the club any money or interest. I just said an idea to get rid of stock and quickly, ballane mentioned vouching with Dynasty.
All the club needs to do is contact Dynasty and ask if the shirts on sale, can be for the same price if fans put Payne and 6 on the back and not get charged for printing to get rid of the stock. Not rocket science is it.

But then again I get blasted by a bunch of fans because I have what seems to be some sort of ambition/an idea that benefits the club on a positive story about one of the clubs players.

I guarantee most other A-League clubs would be doing some sort of tangible campaign instead of posting memes.
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24 days ago · edited 24 days ago · History
Bullion wrote:
 austin111 wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
Yup, comms and social media are not their strong points.  My 18 year old nephew could nail this.
Tell me you don’t follow nix socials without telling me you don’t follow nix socials.
They don’t need to. Everything about the Nix is inside their heads 24/7…

Plus we don’t know what’s been done, it’s an All White and World Cup thing currently where we don’t want to be cynically stepping on Payney’s toes and the better he plays the better the chance of retaining interest post-cup.

What do we want that we can achieve from this? New Argentinian owners? To convince Peter T to stay with us? 

Try and sell a bunch of Tim Payne merch…?

The latter I guess…


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24 days ago
observerfromuh wrote:
 Bullion wrote:
 austin111 wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
Yup, comms and social media are not their strong points.  My 18 year old nephew could nail this.
Tell me you don’t follow nix socials without telling me you don’t follow nix socials.
no memes are going to get the club any money or interest. I just said an idea to get rid of stock and quickly, ballane mentioned vouching with Dynasty.
All the club needs to do is contact Dynasty and ask if the shirts on sale, can be for the same price if fans put Payne and 6 on the back and not get charged for printing to get rid of the stock. Not rocket science is it.

But then again I get blasted by a bunch of fans because I have what seems to be some sort of ambition/an idea that benefits the club on a positive story about one of the clubs players.

I guarantee most other A-League clubs would be doing some sort of tangible campaign instead of posting memes.

Dynasty isn't even trying to cash in. They have just one meme posted. There is a sale on Nix gear, but its at least $45 to ship to Argentina. 

Memes will get interest though. 
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24 days ago
Bullion wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
 Bullion wrote:
 austin111 wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
Yup, comms and social media are not their strong points.  My 18 year old nephew could nail this.
Tell me you don’t follow nix socials without telling me you don’t follow nix socials.
no memes are going to get the club any money or interest. I just said an idea to get rid of stock and quickly, ballane mentioned vouching with Dynasty.
All the club needs to do is contact Dynasty and ask if the shirts on sale, can be for the same price if fans put Payne and 6 on the back and not get charged for printing to get rid of the stock. Not rocket science is it.

But then again I get blasted by a bunch of fans because I have what seems to be some sort of ambition/an idea that benefits the club on a positive story about one of the clubs players.

I guarantee most other A-League clubs would be doing some sort of tangible campaign instead of posting memes.

Dynasty isn't even trying to cash in. They have just one meme posted. There is a sale on Nix gear, but its at least $45 to ship to Argentina. 

Memes will get interest though. 
LOL they should be.

Dynasty/Nix trying to cash in = bad and won't do it even though it will financially help the club.
YF making a tee about Payne = good and won't make a single dime for a club.

No wonder we are viewed as a loser club.
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24 days ago · edited 24 days ago · History
observerfromuh wrote:
 Bullion wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
 Bullion wrote:
 austin111 wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
Yup, comms and social media are not their strong points.  My 18 year old nephew could nail this.
Tell me you don’t follow nix socials without telling me you don’t follow nix socials.
no memes are going to get the club any money or interest. I just said an idea to get rid of stock and quickly, ballane mentioned vouching with Dynasty.
All the club needs to do is contact Dynasty and ask if the shirts on sale, can be for the same price if fans put Payne and 6 on the back and not get charged for printing to get rid of the stock. Not rocket science is it.

But then again I get blasted by a bunch of fans because I have what seems to be some sort of ambition/an idea that benefits the club on a positive story about one of the clubs players.

I guarantee most other A-League clubs would be doing some sort of tangible campaign instead of posting memes.
 
Dynasty isn't even trying to cash in. They have just one meme posted. There is a sale on Nix gear, but its at least $45 to ship to Argentina. 

Memes will get interest though. 
LOL they should be.

Dynasty/Nix trying to cash in = bad and won't do it even though it will financially help the club.
YF making a tee about Payne = good and won't make a single dime for a club.

No wonder we are viewed as a loser club.
You certainly view this club as a loser club. You're certainly a big downer on here, I would hate to imagine what its it like in your head.

I don’t know what Dynasty are thinking? Low stock and not wanting to make more gear and get left with stock hard to move if there's no major interest beyond the frictionless effort of following someone on instagram?
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cheesecakeNelfoosqueenofthequailSouthernix
24 days ago · edited 24 days ago · History
AFC sold 26,000 shirts in their season but many on here said there was no money to be made in selling merch

It will be interesting to see how the Payne revolution revitalises the Nix. Currently they have slightly less followers on Insta then AFC.

That will be a good barometer to check in on a few weeks/months time.

Auckland will rise once more

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24 days ago
Are you complain that Domey didn't buy enough shirts this season? Odd take. 
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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24 days ago
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Don’t know what you are on about mate,

Odd interpretation 

Auckland will rise once more

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24 days ago
Bullion wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
 Bullion wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
 Bullion wrote:
 austin111 wrote:
 observerfromuh wrote:
The fact that DD or anyone at the club isn't trying to make money of the Tim Payne hype, shows we are not a serious club. Easy way to get rid of this seasons stock.

The only thing will be a YF tee or something, but that doesn't benefit the club financially.
Yup, comms and social media are not their strong points.  My 18 year old nephew could nail this.
Tell me you don’t follow nix socials without telling me you don’t follow nix socials.
no memes are going to get the club any money or interest. I just said an idea to get rid of stock and quickly, ballane mentioned vouching with Dynasty.
All the club needs to do is contact Dynasty and ask if the shirts on sale, can be for the same price if fans put Payne and 6 on the back and not get charged for printing to get rid of the stock. Not rocket science is it.

But then again I get blasted by a bunch of fans because I have what seems to be some sort of ambition/an idea that benefits the club on a positive story about one of the clubs players.

I guarantee most other A-League clubs would be doing some sort of tangible campaign instead of posting memes.
 
Dynasty isn't even trying to cash in. They have just one meme posted. There is a sale on Nix gear, but its at least $45 to ship to Argentina. 

Memes will get interest though. 
LOL they should be.

Dynasty/Nix trying to cash in = bad and won't do it even though it will financially help the club.
YF making a tee about Payne = good and won't make a single dime for a club.

No wonder we are viewed as a loser club.
You certainly view this club as a loser club. You're certainly a big downer on here, I would hate to imagine what's it like in your head.

I don’t know what Dynasty are thinking? Low stock and not wanting to make more gear and get left with stock hard to move if there's no major interest beyond the frictionless effort of following someone on instagram?
No I want to see some ambition, the club just does the same each season and expect it to work.
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23 days ago
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
AFC sold 26,000 shirts in their season but many on here said there was no money to be made in selling merch

It will be interesting to see how the Payne revolution revitalises the Nix. Currently they have slightly less followers on Insta then AFC.

That will be a good barometer to check in on a few weeks/months time.
Not taking into account the population difference there is also a massive time difference, you go to schools and you see a lot wearing nix kits but they're not all from the most recent seasons - its probably more pronounced for those that can still fit their kit from close to 20yrs ago, you buy every so often. I would imagine the first stripey would have sold so well, 3rd season (still new, not over saturated with kit), amazing record at home, made it to the semis and lots of hype - you could also get a free of sponsor one early in the season as well which is great. 
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23 days ago
I think people are overestimating how much demand there is for a Phoenix shirt compared to a New Zealand one. If anything, New Zealand Football and Puma should be leading the effort to make these available.

The Phoenix may have received a small increase given it’s also his club, but the real excitement is around the World Cup and seeing Tim Payne represent New Zealand, not the Phoenix.
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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Bullioncoochieecodunnix+5
23 days ago
Most of the hype is coming from Latin America. I'm not sure you guys grasp how expensive it would be for your standard latino to buy a kit and have it shipped, for what is essentially an internet meme that may only last another week or so. I reckon you'd sell a handful, even with a heavy discount. Nothing that would make a material difference to the club's finances. It is more likely that people will be creating their own merch. 

This whole thing started off on the topic of the world cup, so most of the attention is going to be on the All Whites aspect of things. Anything the club gets out of it is a bonus. Payne is in camp, preparing for the actual world cup. Some of you are acting like this is now more relevant than the upcoming matches. 

Before the Payne saga, the club had just over 60k followers on IG. It now has 89k. That's a ton of new eyes on the club, interest, awareness, etc. They've been posting Payne memes, commenting on tons of other Payne videos/posts, interacting with the content creator that started it. 

If you guys are not able to enjoy this completely bizarre occurrence for the bants and instead see it as another opportunity to shit on the club, then I feel sorry for you 🤷🏻‍♀️ 
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auBullioncheesecakecoochiee+15
23 days ago
Shops in Lima are full of cheap club and national team rip offs at $10. The daily earnings for many 

Some young entrepreneur there may go out and take a punt printing 100 AWs “No Payne, No Gain” tops

Yipe enjoy the moment, it’s only going to last for a few more weeks 
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23 days ago
There’s certainly a moment there. How to grab it is the tricky part. And how to do it without making NZ and Payney’s moment about the Nix. 

Maybe license and official printer in Latin America and release a limited edition Tim Payne Phoenix top box with a limited edition number 1-1000. Get it signed (after the cup- sell it now). Make it like the Channel 10 cricket merch. Make 150. If they sell make the rest. Have season stats, career explanation, photo from the Wales game, golf cart ignominy to the World Cup…make it look nice.

Give it a go mate! What could you price that at? Something to hang on the wall. 

Then print a thousand regular Nix shirts and put Payne on a hundred of them. If they sell, five hundred…etc etc 


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23 days ago
Yakcall wrote:
I think people are overestimating how much demand there is for a Phoenix shirt compared to a New Zealand one. If anything, New Zealand Football and Puma should be leading the effort to make these available.

 
The Phoenix may have received a small increase given it’s also his club, but the real excitement is around the World Cup and seeing Tim Payne represent New Zealand, not the Phoenix.
While that may be so, there are also plenty of social media comment sections at the moment (often in Spanish) where people are asking where they can get Phoenix/AW's kits from. 

We shouldn't be afraid to go out as Nix/AW's fans and get our hands dirty by pointing people in the right direction, I know that's what I've been doing.
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23 days ago
Nice call Youngheart. 

With regards to Chelsea and others, I’ve heard a bit being said about the difference between who owns the club and who the club belongs to. 

The GM, the ownership group, the manager/coach, the captain, the players …the fan group (s) and the fans…

We don’t have to amplify AFC and guys like Woud crapping on us from their current great height. 

If we’re putting out good vibes about the club and our fandom and people can see that, that’s part of it. 

If you’re Argentinian and repping the Nix let the folk know, or if you’ve got google translate, I guess. 

Ask not what your club can do for you, I guess: sing it from the rooftops, wear it with pride, get Ronaldo McDonald house or StarJam or whatever going so we get new fans in…

Fever Friday, retro Ricki re-issue, new t-shirts- sell them next to the women’s fanzine…

Fire Up! And to the WC…


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23 days ago · edited 23 days ago · History
All this TP talk and I am the one who suggests the club should be doing something to benefit from it, and I get shut down. 

I didn't mean it to shit on the club or anything negative, I meant it as to try prop up the club and help get rid of excess stock the club may have to benefit the club. 

Sorry if I want the club to succeed or try something different because Dome does the same shit year in and year out and it's fine. 

The reaction from this proves, this is a loser club, you attack the status quo (which is failure after failure to win something) and people say you shouldn't be supporting us. If the Nix folded tomorrow the legacy would last two months max due to how AFC has started (AFC is surrounded by winners). Nobody in November 2026 will miss us too.

People say I shouldn't be following the nix, but me as a fan who wants to see some sort of ambition or something new (not a club legend who took the job because it was the easy way out), shouldn't be consistently dissed for being outspoken. If people don't like what I have to say at times, some elements must be true and I apologise if there's a nicer way to express my feelings.

I just want a successful Men's team in Wellington and maybe the club needs to do something different.
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23 days ago
You’re not being shutdown. Dunno what is going on with you, but every post it’s this happens, so the Nix are a loser club. It’s boring. 

And you also often simplify the debate and use a straw man, so you’re not really talking to anyone.

There’s a lot of talk here about things that could be done and reasons for letting it play out. 

I mean I’m sure Domey is engaging Argentinian agents for the Tim Payne Wellington Phoenix English Soccer high school academy and possibly trying to open up some off road golf cart driving courses too…

Try stowing your boring repetitive victimhood thing and perhaps even suggest what you think should be done or if it is pressing drop the club an email and ask them what they are doing and see what they say. 

I’ve read a lot of ho hum based on economic reasons such as low stock, uncertain demand, relative economies and exchange rates, high shipping costs so low profit margins and a high price…
Plus who owns the IP etc

Then there’s the not wanting to distract Timmy with commercial negotiations days before he plays England and Iran.

I think that’s a kind of summary. Plus it is much easier to do nothing.

Also Youngheart suggested that if you see they want official merch in chat somewhere, send them the link. 


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Maob
22 days ago
"Loser club" this, "loser club" that, but all I'm seeing are loser "fans" who can't have a shred of joy and who have to make everyone else feel like shark for supporting this nix. Some of you need to tak Doloras' advice and stop supporting the nix if it's making you so misreble.

I'm not saying the nix are infalible, but if your response to a funny meme is all of this then you really need to give it a rest.
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Buffon IIBullioncheesecakeco+8
22 days ago
I mean I dunno if you guys have this in your family but my Nana had the saying ‘No introspection without action’. 

If you’ve identified a problem do something about it. Beyond just coming on here and repeating what the AFC fans say.

Otherwise you’re just moping and enjoying being miserable. 


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cheesecakeDolorasMainland FCqueenofthequail
22 days ago
It’s awesome for him and it’s awesome for both all whites and nix. The fact this riles up the blue goo fans makes it even funnier. Some really are sad states that can’t hack it’s not one of theirs. Enjoy it, it’s a bit of fun and it couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke. Happy days.

P.S the nix are massive 😎💛🖤
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22 days ago · edited 22 days ago · History
Probably should move this to the Tim Payne thread.

Don’t think even the most loyal Dome supporter can credit Dome for this.

Actually when was the last time this guy spoke?




Auckland will rise once more

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ob
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