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No habla Espanol - the NZFC bitch fight

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Goodge wrote:
Jeff it really is getting petty when you start picking up on spelling and grammar. We all make mistakes including you (FYI 'dispute'). Leave it out. Lets stick to the football arguments. Don't agree with everything that greyhound has to say but I think he has a point in that it may be best for you to have a cup of tea and hit the hay - resume the debate in the morning when we've all had time to cool our heels and rest up.

 
 
You sir, deserve a DB.
 
In fact if you're at the Fox on Saturday come and find me and I'll buy you one.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Greyhound wrote:

Auckland City more successful than Wellington Phoenix...that is a fact.

 
ACFC more successful in the ASB prem than the nix - fact, more successful in the worl comps - true again, question when has the nix ever been able to enter these comps, and what has ACFC won in the a-league? The only comparable thing about the nix and ACFC is that they are both football teams - neither in the same league, have played frioendlies against each other which hardly mean anything - so unless the two are playing for points against each other comparing them is fruitless.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Goodge wrote:
Jeff it really is getting petty when you start picking up on spelling and grammar. We all make mistakes including you (FYI 'dispute'). Leave it out. Lets stick to the football arguments. Don't agree with everything that greyhound has to say but I think he has a point in that it may be best for you to have a cup of tea and hit the hay - resume the debate in the morning when we've all had time to cool our heels and rest up.

Excuse me? picking on spelling and grammar? What are you on about? when? where?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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theprof wrote:
Greyhound wrote:

Auckland City more successful than Wellington Phoenix...that is a fact.

 
ACFC more successful in the ASB prem than the nix - fact, more successful in the worl comps - true again, question when has the nix ever been able to enter these comps, and what has ACFC won in the a-league? The only comparable thing about the nix and ACFC is that they are both football teams - neither in the same league, have played frioendlies against each other which hardly mean anything - so unless the two are playing for points against each other comparing them is fruitless.
 
This. 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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this is a very angry thread
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Downey26 wrote:
this is a very angry thread
 
Just what I was thinking.
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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TopLeft07 wrote:
Downey26 wrote:
this is a very entertaining thread
 
Also what I was just thinking

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
Downey26 wrote:
this is a very entertaining thread
 
Also what I was just thinking

 
Yes that too.  

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Hard News wrote:
Auckland City more successful than Liverpool... that is a fact.
 
You know that's not at all true, Mr Cross ...
 
What is a fact is the volume of puerile gob5#1+e which is permeating this thread.
 
It's become a real "He said, She said" theme, the sort of thing I'd expect to hear/see/read from cerebrally challenged r-word fans or our politicians in Parliament, not NZ's footballing intelligentsia.
 
C'mon guys, every single one of you is better than that!
 
 
Cheers,
 
JR
 
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at the end of the day this thread has become a pointless comparison between two football teams that cannot be compared fairly as the do not play int he same competition nor in the same international conference - it'd be like comparing Arsenal to the Iranian national team!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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In the time since Auckland City existed they have won more titles (in a completely different competition) than Liverpool.  They have also achieved more at the World Club Championships.

Therefore by Knitting Circle logic City are CLEARLY more susccessful than Liverpool.
 
I don't make the rules of stoopid.  I just apply them.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Scousekiwi wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Auckland City more successful than Liverpool... that is a fact.
 
You know that's not at all true, Mr Cross ...
 
What is a fact is the volume of puerile gob5#1+e which is permeating this thread.
 
It's become a real "He said, She said" theme, the sort of thing I'd expect to hear/see/read from cerebrally challenged r-word fans or our politicians in Parliament, not NZ's footballing intelligentsia.
 
C'mon guys, every single one of you is better than that!
 
 
Cheers,
 
JR
 
Na I'm not.
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Hard News wrote:
 
I don't make the rules of stoopid.  I just apply them.
 
and you apply them like a pro

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Scousekiwi wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Auckland City more successful than Liverpool... that is a fact.

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You know that's not at all true, Mr Cross ...

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What is a fact is the�volume of puerile gob5#1+e�which is permeating�this thread.

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It's become a real "He said, She said" theme, the sort of thing I'd expect to hear/see/read from cerebrally challenged r-word fans or our politicians in Parliament, not NZ's footballing intelligentsia.

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C'mon guys,�every single one of you is�better than that!

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Cheers,

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JR

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And yet you constantly bag YF on the ACFC forums. You are completely fake.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:

And yet you constantly bag YF on the ACFC forums. You are completely fake.[/QUOTE]

Heh. I was thinking the same thing.


Scousekiwi on Yellow Fever wrote:
C'mon guys,�every single one of you is�better than that!

[QUOTE=Scousekiwi on Blue Balls]PS Ignorance - what the Yellow Fever forums deliver in spades!

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I'll re-iterate my stance because I have been playing this game and I'll put my hand in causing some of the other members frustration.
 
I happen to think ACFC are a good club. I do not begrudge them their titles and what they have achieved. They have bought an element of professionalism that other clubs have not and thus have set a bar to reach. I suspect they will go through this season undefeated. I regularly go and watch their games because it is not bad to watch in terms of what is available and most the people I talk to there I get on with.
 
What I cannot abhor is the knitter group spouting the biggest diatribe since the Warren Commission report that they are an amateur club that do it all for a powerade and a salad, that they are the righteous and holy ACFC, upholders of grassroots coalface good honest NZ footballers and that the Phoenix are evil. Its just an absolute load of bollocks and they seem content on pushing that angle and comparing the two football clubs in the similar vein that a cat is smilar to an owl.
 
If you read through my posts, thats generally the front I attack on. I'm sorry for annoying the rest of you last night but I was awake and in the mood to poke some sh*t. Yeah they do go for the wind up but they also bite back so they are just as guilty. Reading their forum is not exactly a pleasant experience either with all their diatribe and I note you jumped on there to put the boot into this forum too Jeremy so maybe you practice what you preach as well over there.
 
Apologies.
Jeff Vader2011-11-17 13:54:45

Grumpy old bastard alert

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That and watching a repeat of the Matrix reloaded - going the ECFC wind up route was A LOT more appealing.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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theprof wrote:
at the end of the day this thread has become a pointless comparison between two football teams that cannot be compared fairly as the do not play int he same competition nor in the same international conference - it'd be like comparing Arsenal to the Iranian national team!

 
Well Iran have qualified for 3 world cups, Arsenal haven't. Though Arsenal have 13 top flight English championships and Iran have none. This is a tough one.

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theprof wrote:
Greyhound wrote:

Auckland City more successful than Wellington Phoenix...that is a fact.

 
ACFC more successful in the ASB prem than the nix - fact, more successful in the worl comps - true again, question when has the nix ever been able to enter these comps, and what has ACFC won in the a-league? The only comparable thing about the nix and ACFC is that they are both football teams - neither in the same league, have played frioendlies against each other which hardly mean anything - so unless the two are playing for points against each other comparing them is fruitless.
Might as well say Mirimar are more succesful than Auckland city.
 
The silver Ferns are more succesful than Auckland city, we should all take up netball.

Allegedly

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JordyBean wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Last I checked, the champions of New Zealand was Waitakere United... the last two years... but I guess you are going to tell me it means nothing right? Much like how you guys beat CCM?Got anymore? Just tell me which way you want to spin it so we can keep exposing your hypocrasy.


Waitakere Utd won last 2 NZFC titles
And your point is?
Waitakere are therefore the 2nd best team in the world.
 
The Phoenix beat Waitakere once, therefore the phoenix are the best team in the world?

Allegedly

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Tegal wrote:
theprof wrote:
Greyhound wrote:

Auckland City more successful than Wellington Phoenix...that is a fact.

 
ACFC more successful in the ASB prem than the nix - fact, more successful in the worl comps - true again, question when has the nix ever been able to enter these comps, and what has ACFC won in the a-league? The only comparable thing about the nix and ACFC is that they are both football teams - neither in the same league, have played frioendlies against each other which hardly mean anything - so unless the two are playing for points against each other comparing them is fruitless.
Might as well say Mirimar are more succesful than Auckland city.
 
The silver Ferns are more succesful than Auckland city, we should all take up netball.
Silver ferns? are you on something...what a muppet.

Miramar and Phoenix have never qualified for world club champs and even if the Phoenix were to have a play off with Auckland City it would be Auckland City representing Oceania!

Auckland City are more well known world wide than the Phoenix...fact
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Greyhound wrote:
Tegal wrote:
theprof wrote:
Greyhound wrote:

Auckland City more successful than Wellington Phoenix...that is a fact.

 
ACFC more successful in the ASB prem than the nix - fact, more successful in the worl comps - true again, question when has the nix ever been able to enter these comps, and what has ACFC won in the a-league? The only comparable thing about the nix and ACFC is that they are both football teams - neither in the same league, have played frioendlies against each other which hardly mean anything - so unless the two are playing for points against each other comparing them is fruitless.
Might as well say Mirimar are more succesful than Auckland city.
 
The silver Ferns are more succesful than Auckland city, we should all take up netball.
Silver ferns? are you on something...what a muppet.

Miramar and Phoenix have never qualified for world club champs and even if the Phoenix were to have a play off with Auckland City it would be Auckland City representing Oceania!

Auckland City are more well known world wide than the Phoenix...fact

 
Thats hardly a fact, pretty hard to prove either way. unless of course you asked every single person in the world if they had heard of either team and kept a tally graph going.
Downey262011-11-17 14:29:55
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This thread:

Three for me, and two for them.

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Greyhound wrote:
Tegal wrote:
theprof wrote:
Greyhound wrote:

Auckland City more successful than Wellington Phoenix...that is a fact.

 
ACFC more successful in the ASB prem than the nix - fact, more successful in the worl comps - true again, question when has the nix ever been able to enter these comps, and what has ACFC won in the a-league? The only comparable thing about the nix and ACFC is that they are both football teams - neither in the same league, have played frioendlies against each other which hardly mean anything - so unless the two are playing for points against each other comparing them is fruitless.
Might as well say Mirimar are more succesful than Auckland city.
 
The silver Ferns are more succesful than Auckland city, we should all take up netball.
Silver ferns? are you on something...what a muppet.

Miramar and Phoenix have never qualified for world club champs and even if the Phoenix were to have a play off with Auckland City it would be Auckland City representing Oceania!

Auckland City are more well known world wide than the Phoenix...fact
 
...and your point is?
 
 
You seem to be hell bent on providing nothing but comedy nuggets with all these "facts" you keep dreaming up. Not knocking it, you are providing some great comedy relief here.
 
Have you actually ever stopped to consider why you dislike the Phoenix so much?
 
At least Jordybean is coming at all this from a consistent position and is providing reasons for his stance on the Nix, howver dubious I may find his reasoning.
Jag2011-11-17 14:33:39

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Hang on Greyhound. Neither the Phoenix nor Miramar are eligible to qualify for the CWC. By your own "logic" Miramar have won more Chatham Cups and the Nix and qualified for the A-League finals more often therefore are both better teams. Everton have also never qualified for the CWC yet are both significantly better and more well known. Pull you head in, you're making Aucklanders look bad/stoopid.
PS You're a dick....fact!

Its no longer a problem.

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Keep it up. You are just enforcing the rule that you really are bonkers. Jeff Vader2011-11-17 14:42:53

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Toffeeman wrote:
Hang on Greyhound. Neither the Phoenix nor Miramar are eligible to qualify for the CWC. By your own "logic" Miramar have won more Chatham Cups and the Nix and qualified for the A-League finals more often therefore are both better teams. Everton have also never qualified for the CWC yet are both significantly better and more well known. Pull you head in, you're making Aucklanders look bad/stoopid.
PS You're a dick....fact!
sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me....
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Jag wrote:
Greyhound wrote:
Tegal wrote:
theprof wrote:
Greyhound wrote:

Auckland City more successful than Wellington Phoenix...that is a fact.

 
ACFC more successful in the ASB prem than the nix - fact, more successful in the worl comps - true again, question when has the nix ever been able to enter these comps, and what has ACFC won in the a-league? The only comparable thing about the nix and ACFC is that they are both football teams - neither in the same league, have played frioendlies against each other which hardly mean anything - so unless the two are playing for points against each other comparing them is fruitless.
Might as well say Mirimar are more succesful than Auckland city.
 
The silver Ferns are more succesful than Auckland city, we should all take up netball.
Silver ferns? are you on something...what a muppet.

Miramar and Phoenix have never qualified for world club champs and even if the Phoenix were to have a play off with Auckland City it would be Auckland City representing Oceania!

Auckland City are more well known world wide than the Phoenix...fact
 
...and your point is?
 
 
You seem to be hell bent on providing nothing but comedy nuggets with all these "facts" you keep dreaming up. Not knocking it, you are providing some great comedy relief here.
 
Have you actually ever stopped to consider why you dislike the Phoenix so much?
 
At least Jordybean is coming at all this from a consistent position and is providing reasons for his stance on the Nix, howver dubious I may find his reasoning.
when have i ever said i hate or dislike the phoenix?

i just think Auckland City are a better side and doing more for Nz Football.

I have never said i do not support the Phoenix or want them to fail. Infact il be at their game this weekend hoping they win.

dont make assumptions...

Greyhound2011-11-17 15:01:20
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A thought. The Knitting Circle choose the week the Nix play in Auckland to go nuts. Sheer proof that they feel that ACFC is threatened by the Nix, which is quite pathetic.

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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I'm not sure it's fair to paint Greyhound with the same brush as one or two other Auckland City "fans" who pop up on here trying to arrange fights etc.  The sort of people who get asked not to post by their own club's committee because it's embarrassing for the club.

Greyhound has some reasonable points amongst the wind ups.  A bit like yourself Jeff :)
 
In particular, I think there is a case for the statement that Auckland City do more for the game in NZ.
 
On the flipside Greyhound, please accept that most Fever fans are also fans of the NZFC/ASBP and would like to see it flourish. 
 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Greyhound wrote:
 
when have i ever said i hate or dislike the phoenix?

i just think Auckland City are a better side and doing more for Nz Football.

I have never said i do not support the Phoenix or want them to fail. Infact il be at their game this weekend hoping they win.

dont make assumptions...

 
I stand corrected, Sir, and aplogise.
 
However, based on your posts, I think it was a fairly easy assumption to make.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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totally greyhound, you seem hell bent on pointing out that ACFC is betterin all ways than the nix, all I and many others have said is that it's not actually relevant to compare the two. Nix aren't eligable to be involved in CWC, so using that as an example of being better is just plain unfair, as is anyone saying ACFC hasn't made the finals of the a-league => they aren't playing in that league so how can they. On the done more for NZ footy point - if you think that football in nz would be better without the nix, I'd like to see you proove it. Footy in this country has exploded, not just because of the AW's, but because of the coverage the nix has had. The ASB premiership has also added to that, as has Waitakere and ACFC. Neither is better than the other in this aspect its a community effort not just one shining star! theprof2011-11-17 16:14:43

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Smithy wrote:

I'm not sure it's fair to paint Greyhound with the same brush as one or two other Auckland City "fans" who pop up on here trying to arrange fights etc.  The sort of people who get asked not to post by their own club's committee because it's embarrassing for the club.

Greyhound has some reasonable points amongst the wind ups.  A bit like yourself Jeff :)
 
In particular, I think there is a case for the statement that Auckland City do more for the game in NZ.
 
On the flipside Greyhound, please accept that most Fever fans are also fans of the NZFC/ASBP and would like to see it flourish. 
 
That post sounded more like you doing your job as a mod rather than speaking your mind Smithy.
Just don't expect me to hold hands and sing Kumbaya. I've said all the fluffy stuff I am going to say about ECFC.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Smithy wrote:

I'm not sure it's fair to paint Greyhound with the same brush as one or two other Auckland City "fans" who pop up on here trying to arrange fights etc.�



Why have I not been advised of this? Where and when's this fight? Do you want me to pack my crowbar, knuckleduster and AK 47?
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1 - isnt acfc a franchise,not a club?
2 - i have seen more nix gear around the world than acfc,more well known?
3- i have also seen the 6 or so ''singers'' at kiwitea st,i presume these 2 fellas are amongst them? they look like nerds
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Jeff Vader wrote:
Next you'd tell me that you moight only take Durante at CB ignoring the fact that he is probably one of the best in Australiasia on current form and that NZF want ECFC to be the real champs. Oh... wait...


and no Siggie despite the fact he was a stand out in the NZFC last time he was there for City


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