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No habla Espanol - the NZFC bitch fight

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edward l wrote:
Nicely satisfied & thanks to the Croatian hosts who spent much of the day bringing everything together.
 
Agreed, well in.
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Didnt make it to the game, but I would have loved to meet Zwaanswijk. My favourite player in the A-League.

a) Phoenix is a better side than City and they play in a better league. Its obvious and I dont think anyone from the knitting circle would dispute it.

b) Auckland City FC is a quality side, but is underestimated because of the league in which they play in. They will represent NZ (including the Nix) at the Club World Cup so its good that they are competitive against better teams.

The one thing City has that is unique from the A-League is the Spanish flair. It�s like having 11 Rojas� on the pitch. Few in the A-League have it, but not an entire team. Unlike Phoenix often did last season, City uses the ground and rarely plays the high ball.

Don�t complain about our imports, as the league is amateur. Auckland City FC does a better job in the Nix in raising young NZ talent, and they have their own U19 team where players like Andrew Milne and Stephen Carmichael (hat trick in Mexico) are proving themselves and earning their spot on the first team pitch, before they head to the A-League or overseas.

All in all, City is a good team and Phoenix is a better team.
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Jeff Vader wrote:
Is that confirmed Proak or .....?
Yeah one of the club officials told me last night.

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chris.acfc wrote:
Didnt make it to the game, but I would have loved to meet Zwaanswijk. My favourite player in the A-League.

a) Phoenix is a better side than City and they play in a better league. Its obvious and I dont think anyone from the knitting circle would dispute it.

b) Auckland City FC is a quality side, but is underestimated because of the league in which they play in. They will represent NZ (including the Nix) at the Club World Cup so its good that they are competitive against better teams.

The one thing City has that is unique from the A-League is the Spanish flair. It�s like having 11 Rojas� on the pitch. Few in the A-League have it, but not an entire team. Unlike Phoenix often did last season, City uses the ground and rarely plays the high ball.

Don�t complain about our imports, as the league is amateur. Auckland City FC does a better job in the Nix in raising young NZ talent, and they have their own U19 team where players like Andrew Milne and Stephen Carmichael (hat trick in Mexico) are proving themselves and earning their spot on the first team pitch, before they head to the A-League or overseas.

All in all, City is a good team and Phoenix is a better team.
totally agreed
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Jeff Vader wrote:

They might have played man to man at the back but up front when Ivan and co had the ball, they used a sliding zone... He basically talks bollocks because they looked like they were trying and put out a near full strength team
 
Fully agree, did not look like a team on a training run and sounds very much like a load of rubbish to make up for his teams poor performance.
 
Zwaanswijk (spelling?) was immense at the back for Mariners, won everything in the air. McGlinchey looked all class and next best player for them I thought was Bozanic.
 
Mariners goal I think Spoonley must have been unsighted as it came through a crwod of players, he certainly reacted late.
 
Agree on the Coombes comment someone made, he looked quite slow, maybe an off day?
 
On the kiwi players discussion Mulligan classed as a kiwi too don't forget.
 

All Whites | Phoenix | Baggies

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Congrats to ACFC. Good for them in the buildup to the World Champs. I'm sure most (if not all) on here will be supporting them over there, despite the ribbing.
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Jeff Vader wrote:

el grapadura wrote:
Feneridis is a Kiwi lad.
Kosta Rican I thought?


He's from Wellington.
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el grapadura wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

el grapadura wrote:
Feneridis is a Kiwi lad.
Kosta Rican I thought?


He's from Wellington.
Oh ok. I thought I read in the forum last year that he was Kosta Rican.

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AJ13 wrote:
You say they're all about giving spots to kiwis immediately after claiming 9 of them are imports... ?
 
I was being sarcastic. ACFC supporters always knock the Phoenix for giving spots to anyone but Kiwis, playing anyone but Kiwis on the pitch and being an Australian team..
 
Fair cop on Danko and Feneridis. I didn't think Corales would have been classified as a local though. Anyway when you consider they tell everyone that they are all about grassroots football and developing kiwi talent, they have a lot of funny named Kiwis in their team.
 
That doesn't take away from the fact that they held their own well and won 3-1!

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Bozz wrote:
Fully agree, did not look like a team on a training run and sounds very much like a load of rubbish to make up for his teams poor performance.
 
Zwaanswijk (spelling?) was immense at the back for Mariners, won everything in the air. McGlinchey looked all class and next best player for them I thought was Bozanic.
 
Mariners goal I think Spoonley must have been unsighted as it came through a crwod of players, he certainly reacted late.
 
Agree on the Coombes comment someone made, he looked quite slow, maybe an off day?
 
On the kiwi players discussion Mulligan classed as a kiwi too don't forget.
 
 
Yeah agreed. The amount of time Zwaanswijk just unleashed with cross field balls to the right winger sitting free was just phenominal. He has a pin point cross. That Bozanic lad was pretty handy as well.
 
I would interested in seeing what ACFC do with their midfield. The new Spaniard Andreu is similar and plays a similar role to Mulligan in the distributing holding midfield role. I would think they might bench the other one Albert? He didn't look to do too much last night (or much wrong) Either way, they have an embarrassment of ball playing midfielders. I would be very surprised if any team gets close to them on the ladder.
Jeff Vader2011-09-29 11:13:37

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awesome result. alex was in my class at school in aux
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Jeff Vader wrote:

I would be very surprised if any team gets close to them on the ladder.



I too expect that Auckland City will win the 2011-12 ASB Premiership, but I think that the quality across the league is increasing. Auckland City are not the only team to bolster their lineups for the next season, as only Hawkes Bay and Otago have not announced any new signings.

Lets hope that they do the country and league proud in Japan and get 5th place, but I secretly hope they play Santos in the semi-finals.

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this is a great result.  i would love our national league to be something to be porud of like back in the day where our clubs could compete with really good teams.

big ups to ACFC

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chris.acfc wrote:
Didnt make it to the game, but I would have loved to meet Zwaanswijk. My favourite player in the A-League.

a) Phoenix is a better side than City and they play in a better league. Its obvious and I dont think anyone from the knitting circle would dispute it.

b) Auckland City FC is a quality side, but is underestimated because of the league in which they play in. They will represent NZ (including the Nix) at the Club World Cup so its good that they are competitive against better teams.

The one thing City has that is unique from the A-League is the Spanish flair. It�s like having 11 Rojas� on the pitch. Few in the A-League have it, but not an entire team. Unlike Phoenix often did last season, City uses the ground and rarely plays the high ball.

Don�t complain about our imports, as the league is amateur. Auckland City FC does a better job in the Nix in raising young NZ talent, and they have their own U19 team where players like Andrew Milne and Stephen Carmichael (hat trick in Mexico) are proving themselves and earning their spot on the first team pitch, before they head to the A-League or overseas.

All in all, City is a good team and Phoenix is a better team.
 
I actually agree with most of that!
 
The only thing I would say is that the Nix' ability to foster young Kiwi talent is currently somewhat hampered by things beyond their control. The new owners have aspirations to change that but I fear they may be disappointed when they wade into the mire of FIFA, Aussie and Kiwi football politics.
 
Also, ACFC fund most of what they do, including development, through massive community trust funding - so it should be expected that they will do a good job.
 
Good luck to ACFC going ahead though, especially at the CWC.
 
 
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On that showing and the Phoenix result against the same team I'd love to see a match up.

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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Is it too late to say i really enjoyed the game?
 
Individually was impressed with Oliver Bozanic and Mcglinchey,  and the competitiveness of Pedj Bojic, for Mariners.
 
For Auckland i was impressed with the manner in which they defended when the possession count was way against them in the second half. Even big Angel Berlanga (I had written "dodgy' next to him in my programme after the first 20 minutes.)
 
I had a good chuckle at the verbals Adam Dickinson was giving the chap that was marking him - and the lip he got in return. Would have made good dialogue on a football drama.
 
And graham arnold was in fine form, asking us fans for a view on the offside calls - and then slagging the officials on the basis of our feedback. a character. A character.
 
I correctly predicted Chadwick would be the first to be booked.
 
Well done to Auckland. The whole match was well packaged for $10, including halftime entertainment, reasonable refreshment prices, a free programme and not a security guard in sight.
 
I would go back for another of these matches.
 
 
 
 
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terminator_x wrote:
Top Trillion Trust Grant Recipients 1/8/2009 - 31/7/2010 ($200k +)
 
$481,640  Auckland City Football Club
$420,000  Manukau Trotting Club
$410,000  Cambridge Te Awamutu Harness Racing Club
$390,732  Auckland Coastguard
$327,763  New Zealand Blue Light
$312,635  Surf Life Saving Northern Region
$241,777  Central United Football Club
$241,283  Kids Can Charitable Trust
$207,166  Waikato Basketball Council
$203,911  North Harbour Rugby Football Union
 


Figures just released by The Trillion Trust show that Auckland City FC continue to lead the way in securing community trust funding. Despite being knocked off the top spot of Trillion Trust grant recipients by Ashburton Trotting Club during the 2010/11 financial year ACFC still received $444,854 in funding from the trust. ACFC's sister club Central United also did well in tough economic conditions. They managed to increase their funding from Trillion Trust to $263,224, up $21,447 from the previous year.

Top Trillion Trust Grant Recipients 1/8/2010 - 31/7/2011

$550,000  Ashburton Trotting Club
$444,854  Auckland City Football Club
$306,743  Kids Can Charitable Trust
$263,224  Central United Football Club
$238,770  Surf Life Saving Northern Region
$214,110  Auckland Coastguard
$210,000  Auckland Cricket Association
$183,898  Waikato Basketball Council
$182,071  New Zealand Blue Light
$167,117  North Harbour Rugby Football Union

Source: Trillion Trust Grant Listings
 
terminator_x2011-09-30 16:34:36

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That is extraordinary

Normo's coming home

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It was not all good news for Auckland City Football Club however. For the first time since 1 August 2005 (which is as far back as records on The Trillion Trust website go) they actually had a grant declined by the trust, two in fact.
 
Trillion Trust grants to ACFC since 1 August 2005 (by financial year 1 August to 31 July):
 
2005/06 - $372,116
2006/07 - $333,542
2007/08 - $451,445
2008/09 - $505,641
2009/10 - $481,640
2010/11 - $444,854
 
Total grants by the Trillion Trust to Auckland City Football Club 1 August 2005 - 31 July 2011 = $2,589,238
 

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Spoonley, Coombes, Berlanga, Vicelich, Hogg
Dickinson, Andrew, Feneridis, Riera, Koprovic, Exposito. Subs: Tade, Milne, McGeorge, Mulligan.
 
from memory. Hope I didn't miss anyone.
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Gee, it costs alot to run a team in an amatuer competition.

A dog with a bone :)

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Well played Auckland......shame the Nix have not got a preseason against them. Would be a test for the Nix without a doubt. Good contrast in styles too....Spain free passing vs Welly longball
Good luck for the World club champs
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Was that result a reflection on Auckland's quality or the Nix's woefulness?
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Auckland looked very good - that said I didn't see the Nix game. Mariners starting line up would probably be there number 1 bar Wilkinson so puts the result into perspective.

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Bumped into one of the Spanish contingent in town yesterday. Seemed like a decent bloke but said he was only here to play in the Club World Cup. After that he is out of here hopefully to a pro club. Possibly in the A-League. He also mentioned that he knew of Dirty Sanchez and had probably played against him back in Spain.Toffeeman2011-10-04 13:48:24

Its no longer a problem.

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I'm guessing that would be Andreu. He only just arrived.

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Not sure. Heaps of tats, said he was 29 and wears white Tiempos. Could have been Manel.

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So, during your conversation he said he was 29 and wears white Tiempos? Were you interviewing him?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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Not really. I was wearing my Nix jacket and we got talking about the Nix. He said Sanchez was older than him and he mentioned their ages. I was also asked what boots he recommends (he was working in a sport shop) so it looked like he was actually working. He ALSO mentioned that he does indeed get a decent amount of money from ACFC for playing.

Its no longer a problem.

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Toffeeman wrote:
He ALSO mentioned that he does indeed get a decent amount of money from ACFC for playing.
 
...bet if you visit him next week he won't own up to that.

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Toffeeman wrote:
He ALSO mentioned that he does indeed get a decent amount of money from ACFC for playing.
Same old Auckland, always CHEATING.
 
Kick them out of the league.
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Hard News wrote:
Toffeeman wrote:
He ALSO mentioned that he does indeed get a decent amount of money from ACFC for playing.
 
...bet if you visit him next week he won't own up to that.
 
Coffee is being spat over computers in the Trillion Trust office as we speak.
 

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Dani Sanchez is 26 by the way, which last time I checked isn't older than a guy aged 29.
 
This tattooed Spaniard seems pretty unreliable to me.
 

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Sorry, meant to say "He said Sanchez was younger than him and he mentioned their ages." That was why he was unsure he'd get a A-league contract.

Its no longer a problem.

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Esposito has a few tattoos...

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Auckland City steamrollered the Lotto NRFL All Stars 8-0 at the Croatian Cultural Club on 8 October. Emiliano Tade got three, Luis Corrales two, Ivan Vicelich and Adam Dickinson one apiece, and there was an own goal. HT 4-0.
 
 
Cheers,
 
JR
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its a good job Rabo isnt playing in this charity match
 

New Zealand Football: Rivals in charitable mood for football opener

October 12, 2011

AUCKLAND � Auckland City and Waitakere United will square off for the ASB Charity Cup on Sunday in a new annual match between New Zealand�s best two teams to open the domestic season.

The ASB Charity Cup is a new fixture on the season�s calendar, pitting the ASB Premiership champions with the best performed kiwi side in the Oceania Champions League, and will be played the weekend prior to the opening of the ASB Premiership each year.

This year, the match will support White Ribbon � a campaign that offers men the opportunity to be part of the solution to end domestic violence � and both teams are committed to the cause.

Waitakere United will give 10 percent of gate takings to White Ribbon and the visitors have pledged to match Waitakere�s donation.

�Obviously the more we can do to highlight the cause the better,� said Auckland City coach Ramon Tribulietx.

�At Auckland City we hope a lot of people turn up to Waitakere�s ground to watch the game because it�ll be an entertaining match and White Ribbon is a great cause.�

The extra game will also benefit the two clubs� preparations for a season where both face domestic and continental campaigns, with Auckland also adding December�s FIFA Club World Cup to their schedule.

And of course, it offers the ASB premiership two title favourites the chance to claim the season�s first silverware.

 ï¿½We�re certainly taking it seriously,� said Tribulietx of Sunday�s meeting.

�Playing Waitakere is probably the biggest test we can have in New Zealand so we�ll make sure we�re up for it but we�ll still use it to get the last bits of pre-season preparation in place.�

This year the two rivals have been drawn into different O-League pools, and while that means they won�t clash during the O-League season, they could square off in the final for the first time. The winner of the ASB Charity Cup will earn themselves a leg-up in that competition with $2000 awarded to the winner to go towards O-League preparation costs.

�It�s a great concept and a big game to have early on in the piece,� said Waitakere United coach Neil Emblen.

�There are no points at stake but plenty of pride and it�s a derby match of course. We haven�t won too many but we hope that changes on Sunday.�

�It�s a good game to have early doors and it�ll give both clubs a chance to see how they match up with the players they�ve brought in over the winter.�

Emblen expected a more free-flowing match than traditional Super City derbies but couldn�t resist trying to claim the underdog tag.

�I think Auckland go in as heavy favourites. They�ve had a sensational pre-season including the win over Central Coast, and ours has been a bit average to be honest.

�Matches between our two clubs are always tense and sometimes not the best spectacle because there is usually so much at stake. I think there�ll be a bit more freedom from the teams in this the match and that�ll add to what should be a great day.

ASB Charity Cup 2011
Waitakere United v Auckland City
Fred Taylor Park, Whenuapai, Auckland
Sunday 16 October, 2011
Kickoff 2pm
Admission: Adults $10, Pensioners $5, kids under 15 free.

Waitakere United (from): 1-Danny ROBINSON (gk), 2-Jason ROWLEY, 3-Aaron SCOTT, 4-Tim MYERS, 5-Ryan ZHOGBY, 7-Martin BULLOCK, 8-Chris BALE, 10-Allan PEARCE, 11-Ross MCKENZIE, 12-Roy KRISHNA, 13-Mauri WASI, 14-Tim PAYNE, 15-Gagame FENI, 16-Neil EMBLEN, 17-Jake BUTLER (c), 18-Zane SOLE, 19-Dakota LUCAS, 20-Ryan DE VRIES, 21-James DEBENHAM, 22-Matt UPTON (gk), 23-Jordan SWANEY, 24-Luke ADAMS, 25-Sean LOVEMORE, 26-Bill TUILOMA, 27-Ross HAVILAND, 28-Andy RALPH (gk), 29-Jordan VALE, 30-Rory TURNER.
Head Coach: Neil EMBLEN

Auckland City (from): 1-Jacob SPOONLEY (gk), 2-Reece LAMBERT, 3-Ian HOGG, 4-Sam CAMPBELL, 5-Angel BERLANGA, 6-Chad COOMBES, 7-James PRITCHETT, 8-David MULLIGAN, 9-Manuel EXPOSITO, 10-Luis CORRALES, 11-Daniel KOPRIVCIC, 12-Liam LITTLE (gk), 13-Alex FENERIDIS, 14-Adam DICKINSON, 15-Ivan VICELICH (c), 16-Albert RIERA, 17-Adam MCGEORGE, 18-Paul GOTHARD (gk), 19-Daniel MORGAN, 20-Emiliano TADE, 21-Andreu GUERAO, 22-Andrew MILNE, 23-Simon ARMS, 24-Stephen CARMICHAEL, 25-Halili NAGIME, 26-Liam ANDERSON (gk), 27-Thomas DOYLE.
Head Coach: Ramon TRIBULIETX

Information about White Ribbon
White Ribbon offers men the opportunity to be part of the solution to end domestic violence. White Ribbon is a campaign led by men who condemn violence against women and take action. White Ribbon Day (25 November) is the international day when people, particularly men, wear a white ribbon to show they won�t tolerate or condone violence towards women.
www.whiteribbon.org.nz

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