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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Dear Roy,

You have to forget about Fulham. We are not of the Cottagers.

I wish you all the best in your future endevours as a world renown manager at other top clubs in Europe. I hear Romania is nice this time of year.

Regards
The Entire Empire of Liverpool FC.
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sanday wrote:
What a pathetic display.


So, just the usual then?

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
sanday wrote:
What a pathetic display.


So, just the usual then?


Its funny how quite you lot get when you aren't winning.
Over the past week i was beginning to forget arsenal existed.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jeez you lot turned on Roy again quickly.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
the King is on twitter for those interested

http://twitter.com/#!/kennethdalglish
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Jazcobar wrote:
Jeez you lot turned on Roy again quickly.


Didn't think I got back on side with him...
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Jazcobar wrote:
the King is on twitter for those interested

http://twitter.com/#!/kennethdalglish


Yeah, pretty cool. Think he got over 6000 followers in 60 min. Almost as quick as he scored them goals.
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TheKop wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
Jeez you lot turned on Roy again quickly.


Didn't think I got back on side with him...
This.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yep still a bit cautious about Roy......I am glad to get some wins though
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He needs to go. Simple.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Just been reading a forum which says that when NESV tookover they placed a 28 days get rid of Roy clause in his contract, this was supposedly confirmed by Christian Purslow in a press conference. The take over was the 15th of October so that would take him to the 12th of November.
 
To avoid huge payout of his contract etc, he will need to be gone by Friday
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Hell you could replace the manager a million times, but at the end of the day the only reason we score goals is because of Stevie and Nando.

The rest of the squad still needs to step up. It's great Lucas had a good game against Chelsea and im happy for him but he needs to start backing these performances up, this is just one example. All im trying to say is our squad is not good enough to be winning every game, just look at our bench today, so im willing to cut Roy some slack.
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This is telling of Roy's tactics and it just baffles me:

Hodgson replaced Meireles with Shelvey.
Hodgson replaced Dirk Kuyt with Christian Poulsen.
Hodgson replaced Maxi Rodriguez with Nathan Eccleston.

Shelvey on for Meireles, ok I can do that. Shelvey's been playing well and apparently Raul was sick.

But. We desperately needed a goal for 3 points so he swaps Kuyt for Poulsen! and Eccleston for Maxi. What?!

He had Jova and Ngog on the bench. Both of them would have provided the energy and go forward to hunt the last goal. Poulsen couldn't find chickens in a chicken coupe and Eccleston's in uncharted waters for the first team.

Did I say I was baffled?

TheKop2010-11-11 16:08:23
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TheKop wrote:
This is telling of Roy's tactics and it just baffles me:

Hodgson replaced Meireles with Shelvey.
Hodgson replaced Dirk Kuyt with Christian Poulsen.
Hodgson replaced Maxi Rodriguez with Nathan Eccleston.

Shelvey on for Meireles, ok I can do that. Shelvey's been playing well and apparently Raul was sick.

But. We desperately needed a goal for 3 points so he swaps Kuyt for Poulsen! and Eccleston for Maxi. What?!

He had Jova and Ngog on the bench. Both of them would have provided the energy and go forward to hunt the last goal. Poulsen couldn't find chickens in a chicken coupe and Eccleston's in uncharted waters for the first team.

Did I say I was baffled?

 
Okay, Raul was sick. Yip, I can accept that. Shelvey was pretty average, but I can accept that. Even if he proceeded to play him on the right.
 
Poulsen came on in an attempt to get Gerrard closer to Torres, I think. And Kuyt was exhausted. Again, I think Jova would be a better option to bring on, for either Meireles or Kuyt, given Poulsen's lack of ability to do... well, anything. And yeah, leaving Ngog on the bench is so stupid when we need a goal- especially given how well he has played when given a chance (changing the game against Bolton). He left Pacheco out of that bench so he could have Poulsen, Shelvey and Spearing or something? Gimme a break. Give Dani a run ffs.
 
But, his idiotic substitutions are just a small part of his tactics that annoy me. Its sitting so deep all the time that kills me. No pressing the ball, no ambition or desire to attack. No desire to even pass and move. Leaving Torres isolated the entire game and hoping he can do something magical every game? Fk off. What a joke.
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Jazcobar wrote:
Hell you could replace the manager a million times, but at the end of the day the only reason we score goals is because of Stevie and Nando.

The rest of the squad still needs to step up. It's great Lucas had a good game against Chelsea and im happy for him but he needs to start backing these performances up, this is just one example. All im trying to say is our squad is not good enough to be winning every game, just look at our bench today, so im willing to cut Roy some slack.
 
This is just dumb.
 
I'm sorry, but come on. You think that other managers would have us playing so deep? Do you understand that a manger doesn't just pick the team, he also dictates many other things, such as the way that the team plays and is set up?
 
Bad results, I can take. Off days, I can take. But the consistant lack of desire to actually play football, the consistant lack of pressing, of supporting Torres, the lack of ambition, the lack of tactical... well, tactical fking anything, its all pathetic. Do you enjoy watching us sit back and have the piss taken out of us by Wigan? Were you thrilled to bits when we were taken to the cleaners by fking Blackpool?
 
But hey, good ol' Roy. We really needed an "arm-around-the-shoulder" English manager. With his revolutionary 4-4-2 tactics, we'll be back top in no time.
We have top internationals in our squad. Suddenly Skrtel can't head a ball, Johnson looks like a fish out of water when he steps on the pitch, Reina has no options to throw to for a quick break, Torres looks like a lesser Bobby Zamora (apart from the magic he's produced from nothing in the last couple of games). You think thats because of the players? No, they're good players. Not good enough to win the League, maybe. But Maxi is a good enough player to contribute to a team that could win at Wigan.
 
Cut him some slack? He left Babel, Aurelio, Pacheco all home. He got rid of Aquilani and Insua for the reason that we were "over-staffed" and now he has the cheek to complain about a thin squad? 
 
Also, a big deal was made of Torres storming off at the end of the game. Who the fk could blame him?
 
Both feet firmly in the Roy Out camp.
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^Last season we lost to Wigan away.
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El-Ni�o wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
Hell you could replace the manager a million times, but at the end of the day the only reason we score goals is because of Stevie and Nando. The rest of the squad still needs to step up. It's great Lucas had a good game against Chelsea and im happy for him but he needs to start backing these performances up, this is just one example. All im trying to say is our squad is not good enough to be winning every game, just look at our bench today, so im willing to cut Roy some slack.



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Bad results, I can take. Off days, I can take. But the consistant lack of desire to actually play football, the consistant lack of pressing, of supporting Torres, the lack of ambition, the lack of tactical... well, tactical fking anything, its all pathetic. Do you enjoy watching us sit back and have the piss taken out of us by Wigan? Were you thrilled to bits when we were taken to the cleaners by fking Blackpool?

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Both feet firmly in the Roy Out camp.

we could of been playing higher up the pitch but it wouldnt of mattered because most of our passes were going to wigan anyway.

its all Roys fault right?

if we had babel on the bench and aquilani here wed be top of the table right?

That right there was just dumb, come on man skrtel could never head a ball LOL!

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Jazcobar wrote:
^Last season we lost to Wigan away.
 
Naize logic.
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Jazcobar wrote:
El-Ni�o wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
Hell you could replace the manager a million times, but at the end of the day the only reason we score goals is because of Stevie and Nando. The rest of the squad still needs to step up. It's great Lucas had a good game against Chelsea and im happy for him but he needs to start backing these performances up, this is just one example. All im trying to say is our squad is not good enough to be winning every game, just look at our bench today, so im willing to cut Roy some slack.



 

This is just dumb.

 

I'm sorry, but come on. You think that other managers would have us playing so deep? Do you understand that a manger doesn't just pick the team, he also dictates many other things, such as the way that the team plays and is set up?

 

Bad results, I can take. Off days, I can take. But the consistant lack of desire to actually play football, the consistant lack of pressing, of supporting Torres, the lack of ambition, the lack of tactical... well, tactical fking anything, its all pathetic. Do you enjoy watching us sit back and have the piss taken out of us by Wigan? Were you thrilled to bits when we were taken to the cleaners by fking Blackpool?

 

But hey, good ol' Roy. We really needed an "arm-around-the-shoulder" English manager. With his revolutionary 4-4-2 tactics, we'll be back top in no time.

We have top internationals in our squad. Suddenly Skrtel can't head a ball, Johnson looks like a fish out of water when he steps on the pitch, Reina has no options to throw to for a quick break, Torres looks like a lesser Bobby Zamora (apart from the magic he's produced from nothing in the last couple of games). You think thats because of the players? No, they're good players. Not good enough to win the League, maybe. But Maxi is a good enough player to contribute to a team that could win at Wigan.

 

Cut him some slack? He left Babel, Aurelio, Pacheco all home. He got rid of Aquilani and Insua for the reason that we were "over-staffed" and now he has the cheek to complain about a thin squad? 

 

Also, a big deal was made of Torres storming off at the end of the game. Who the fk could blame him?

 

Both feet firmly in the Roy Out camp.

we could of been playing higher up the pitch but it wouldnt of mattered because most of our passes were going to wigan anyway.

its all Roys fault right?

if we had babel on the bench and aquilani here wed be top of the table right?

That right there was just dumb, come on man skrtel could never head a ball LOL!

 
Just smile and nod.
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Jazcobar wrote:
^Last season we lost to Wigan away.


So, what you're saying is, Wigan are your benchmark.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Jazcobar wrote:
El-Ni�o wrote:
Jazcobar wrote:
Hell you could replace the manager a million times, but at the end of the day the only reason we score goals is because of Stevie and Nando. The rest of the squad still needs to step up. It's great Lucas had a good game against Chelsea and im happy for him but he needs to start backing these performances up, this is just one example. All im trying to say is our squad is not good enough to be winning every game, just look at our bench today, so im willing to cut Roy some slack.



 

This is just dumb.

 

I'm sorry, but come on. You think that other managers would have us playing so deep? Do you understand that a manger doesn't just pick the team, he also dictates many other things, such as the way that the team plays and is set up?

 

Bad results, I can take. Off days, I can take. But the consistant lack of desire to actually play football, the consistant lack of pressing, of supporting Torres, the lack of ambition, the lack of tactical... well, tactical fking anything, its all pathetic. Do you enjoy watching us sit back and have the piss taken out of us by Wigan? Were you thrilled to bits when we were taken to the cleaners by fking Blackpool?

 

But hey, good ol' Roy. We really needed an "arm-around-the-shoulder" English manager. With his revolutionary 4-4-2 tactics, we'll be back top in no time.

We have top internationals in our squad. Suddenly Skrtel can't head a ball, Johnson looks like a fish out of water when he steps on the pitch, Reina has no options to throw to for a quick break, Torres looks like a lesser Bobby Zamora (apart from the magic he's produced from nothing in the last couple of games). You think thats because of the players? No, they're good players. Not good enough to win the League, maybe. But Maxi is a good enough player to contribute to a team that could win at Wigan.

 

Cut him some slack? He left Babel, Aurelio, Pacheco all home. He got rid of Aquilani and Insua for the reason that we were "over-staffed" and now he has the cheek to complain about a thin squad? 

 

Also, a big deal was made of Torres storming off at the end of the game. Who the fk could blame him?

 

Both feet firmly in the Roy Out camp.

we could of been playing higher up the pitch but it wouldnt of mattered because most of our passes were going to wigan anyway.

its all Roys fault right?

if we had babel on the bench and aquilani here wed be top of the table right?

That right there was just dumb, come on man skrtel could never head a ball LOL!

 
Actually, fk it. i'm going to grace you with a reply you probably don't deserve.
 
I'm not sure if you realise, but when you press a team when they have the ball, there is a greater chhance you force them onto the back foot and then they can concede the ball. If done correctly/ in the right places, you can win the ball in a position where you can do something with it. Also, when you press higher up, you can get more support, thus making passing the ball easier, and passing it in a position to create panic and support for the striker. I don't know, you might remember a perfect example of us doing it against some small club called Real Madrid?
 
While the players must of course take some of the blame, I believe a lot of it is to do with the way we set up- the way Roy made us set up. What can Torres even do to score goals when he gets it hoofed up to him without a midfielder in sight?
 
Yes. yes, we'd defo be top of the league. Tit. That's not what I'm saying. but I'd rather we brought Alberto on when we were searching for a goal than Poulsen.
 
And yes, he could.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Reina says the media are talking sh*te and that he is committed long term. What a legend.
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Yep, top stuff from a top man.

Wish a few of the other players would take 5 mins to write a statement of intent.

Can't be that hard to write: "I love this club, I'm staying. Shove this up your **** tabloids."
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Exactlyyyy. Reina ftw.
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Tough game (what game isn't these days?) at Stoke tonight. Nice to be playing on Sunday here! Any news about Soto being back? Flat out studying, can barely even check RAWK...
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El-Ni�o wrote:
Reina says the media are talking sh*te and that he is committed long term. What a legend.
 
I routinely tell my boss that I love my job, too.
 
Any stories to the contrary are unsubstantiated rumour, verging on libel.
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El-Ni�o wrote:
Tough game (what game isn't these days?) at Stoke tonight. Nice to be playing on Sunday here! Any news about Soto being back? Flat out studying, can barely even check RAWK...


I think Soto's back. Johnson and Cole are out.

At a guess:

           Reina
Kelly Carra Skrtl/Soto Konch
        Lucas Meireles
     Kuyt Gerrard Maxi
           Torres
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Let's go lads. 3 pts please

Reina, Konchesky, Carragher, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Gerrard, Maxi, Kuyt, Meireles, Torres.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lady luck is being too kind at the moment...
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hoof time. Ugly match so far. Anyone with any idea of what we're trying to achieve out there?
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
F F F F F F!
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Not before time.
In answer to your question.
Mid table oblvion.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Dreadful. Absolutely and utterly dreadful.

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Farkkkkkkk.. 2-0 + Lucas sent off.. We simply dont deserve it tbh.. ohh the good old days of Champions League trophys.. Ohh well, well done Stoke, there fans certainly deserve it.. f**king great atmosphere.tomrewi2010-11-14 08:27:37
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Well done, Roy. You completely outplayed 'Pool in that match. First loss to Stoke in over 25 years...

Stoke deserved that win.
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TheKop wrote:
Dreadful. Absolutely and utterly dreadful.

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Jazcobar wrote:
^Last season we lost to Wigan away.
 
Dw lads, last season we los... Oh, never mind. Thats not how football works.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I actually hate Roy Hodgson.
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Roy Hodgson, seeking advice and guidance to help him and his club through difficult times, decides to visit a priest.
On entering the church he sees there is a queue so waits in line patiently.
Nervously approaching the front, Roy wonders what exactly he should ask for, drifting off in a daydream of titles and trophies, he is summoned by the priest. Inviting Roy over, the priest tells him "come forth my son".
To which the deluded Brit replies "I would settle for seventh father".

Three for me, and two for them.

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Roy: "I was disappointed with the lack of creativity for large periods but to do that we needed a bit more from our front players," he added.

"Most of the time the creativity comes on those occasions you get the ball down and play some football but for a lot of time it was in the air or being kicked out and then you have to deal with the re-start which ensues.

- Lack of creativity
- Front players need to work more
- Hoofing the ball

Is it me or is he blaming the players for doing exactly what he's set them up to do?
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