Kondogbia and Flamini is OK
again there is no need for strikers and wingers until other areas are addressed.
angst at Arsene. 5 minute fans , who for the main deride other clubs for exactly the same financial irresponsibility they then want Wenger to jump into.
Unless pundits are happy to take a side undefeated through the top flight if English football they should know their place.
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
yea I wouldnt be as pissed as I am at the off season if we werent told at the start of it that we have millions to poor* into the team
sorry for winding up , it was not my intention to offend
blaming Wenger for any transfer misgivings misses the point. As soon as someone said "we have x amount of millions" it f***ed the window. If Arsenal show any interest in any player it's a license to hike the asking price.
this is no way is an excuse to deflect attention away from the issues at DM, CB, GK
need to knock over Fulham, go Arsenal.
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
Yeah, in saying Wenger needs to spend the money I completely agree on the part where you say Gazidis effed it up by spouting that. The tragic part is, by not spending (so far) has compounded the pressure already on the club.
I am super positive by Flamini looking at coming on board, we get a solid squad player for free and still have 70 mil to spend lol.
Fulham will be a tough one, prediction 2-1, with Giroud and Cazorla scoring
Tipping: What do you say boys?
Very happy with the overall performance, was a follow-on from Fener.
Some really really good passing moves throughout the game, getting ourselves out of tight spots with quick touches, finding space, turning it into a counter attack, we did it all day and created a lot of great opportunities. And the three finishes were excellent. Good to see Poldi getting in on it, bit of rubbish talk about him leaving - but if we want to challenge for a title we need players like poldi on the fringes of the side, adding that strength in depth.
Back four was very solid, and Szczesny made a couple of great saves when needed, particularly that double one, that was awesome. He also came and grabbed a few dangerous balls, a rock all day.
yea I wouldnt be as pissed as I am at the off season if we werent told at the start of it that we have millions to poor* into the team
I think your attitude on this is poor**.
If we can't sign the right quality players, would you rather we signed average players and reduce chances for youth to come through? Wenger has always made room for young quality players, look at where we are now with Ramsey, Wilshire, Walcott, Oxlaide Chamberlain, Gibbs, Jenkinson, Szy.
Looking at the squad, he's emptied out dead wood and loaned out promising midfielders and defenders. The guys intentions are to buy. But if they don't, and they recall some of those players I'm going to be happy. Because I'm not in the room, and I trust that Wenger and Gazidis have the ability to continue to grow this club, and that they will have chosen to not sign people because the standard we want (Benzema, Di Maria, De Rossi***) are all unavailable. And don't say it's about money. If you have a player worth a bucket load of cash, and 4 years on his contract you won't necessarily sell. Because the reason he's worth that money is his ability to play football, which is your clubs primary ambition.
Stop wanting to be able to foot it in a circle jurk with United/City/Chelsea fans on who has the biggest names.
Also, f*ck it, I'm just mad. We have big names. Arteta, Podolski, Wilshire, Cazorla, Koscielny, Sagna, Walcott, Giroud are all quality enough players to be bragging about. I see those names and I'm confident going up against City/United/Sp*rs/Liverpool/Chelsea.
Additionally that signal of intent wasn't necessarily for you, that's a signal of intent for players and clubs around Europe to know that it's game time and Arsenal won't be looking to loose any players. It's as much a stay the f*ck away from our lads as it is a promise to invest.
Chill the f*ck out and trust Wenger.
/end rant.
*pour, that's the word you're looking for.
**see how I've used the correct use of the word poor?
***wet dream material, not going to happen.
wait, so we get rid of the 'deadwood', don't sign anyone, get a load of injuries(which is something we have done consistently for the past 5 years). then look to panic buy in the last 10 days of the window(which has always worked wonders for us), i think that is **pour management. and don't get me wrong, I am all for bringing in young players and developing a strong youth policy, but at the moment we don't have any gun world class players coming through, and even if we did, we would still need them and more than the 7 players you have mentioned to win either the league or CL or heaven forbid both. and as a fan of arsenal, i do believe their signal of intent was for us.
**because the spelling is more important than the message right?
last nights game was lovely to watch, still shaky at the back once or twice, but great scrambling defence. sanga was better in the middle than i though it would be... also Ramo is really coming into his own. good to see!!!
yea I wouldnt be as pissed as I am at the off season if we werent told at the start of it that we have millions to poor* into the team
I think your attitude on this is poor**.
If we can't sign the right quality players, would you rather we signed average players and reduce chances for youth to come through? Wenger has always made room for young quality players, look at where we are now with Ramsey, Wilshire, Walcott, Oxlaide Chamberlain, Gibbs, Jenkinson, Szy.
Looking at the squad, he's emptied out dead wood and loaned out promising midfielders and defenders. The guys intentions are to buy. But if they don't, and they recall some of those players I'm going to be happy. Because I'm not in the room, and I trust that Wenger and Gazidis have the ability to continue to grow this club, and that they will have chosen to not sign people because the standard we want (Benzema, Di Maria, De Rossi***) are all unavailable. And don't say it's about money. If you have a player worth a bucket load of cash, and 4 years on his contract you won't necessarily sell. Because the reason he's worth that money is his ability to play football, which is your clubs primary ambition.
Stop wanting to be able to foot it in a circle jurk with United/City/Chelsea fans on who has the biggest names.
Also, f*ck it, I'm just mad. We have big names. Arteta, Podolski, Wilshire, Cazorla, Koscielny, Sagna, Walcott, Giroud are all quality enough players to be bragging about. I see those names and I'm confident going up against City/United/Sp*rs/Liverpool/Chelsea.
Additionally that signal of intent wasn't necessarily for you, that's a signal of intent for players and clubs around Europe to know that it's game time and Arsenal won't be looking to loose any players. It's as much a stay the f*ck away from our lads as it is a promise to invest.
Chill the f*ck out and trust Wenger.
/end rant.
*pour, that's the word you're looking for.
**see how I've used the correct use of the word poor?
***wet dream material, not going to happen.
wait, so we get rid of the 'deadwood', don't sign anyone, get a load of injuries(which is something we have done consistently for the past 5 years). then look to panic buy in the last 10 days of the window(which has always worked wonders for us), i think that is **pour management. and don't get me wrong, I am all for bringing in young players and developing a strong youth policy, but at the moment we don't have any gun world class players coming through, and even if we did, we would still need them and more than the 7 players you have mentioned to win either the league or CL or heaven forbid both.
and as a fan of arsenal, i do believe their signal of intent was for us.
so please, swallow some of your own advice and chill out too.**because the spelling is more important than the message right?
Yep awesome result, well picked Brumbys!
Podolski got a ton of confidence from those goals, and Giroud was Giroud.
Cazorla tracked back all game and took the ball out of really tight situations with his turns and spins and got the team on the move again.
The whole starting 11 played and gelled really well, other than taking the foot off, we were a bit weaker with Wilshere, Monreal and Sanogo, but good way to continue Monreal and bring Sanogo into the season.
wait, so we get rid of the 'deadwood', don't sign anyone, get a load of injuries(which is something we have done consistently for the past 5 years). then look to panic buy in the last 10 days of the window(which has always worked wonders for us), i think that is **pour management. and don't get me wrong, I am all for bringing in young players and developing a strong youth policy, but at the moment we don't have any gun world class players coming through, and even if we did, we would still need them and more than the 7 players you have mentioned to win either the league or CL or heaven forbid both.
and as a fan of arsenal, i do believe their signal of intent was for us.
so please, swallow some of your own advice and chill out too.**because the spelling is more important than the message right?
@Bullion: here are the players mentioned and the age they signed for us according to wiki
Gibbs - 2004 (aged 15)
Walcott - 2006 (aged 17)
Wilshere - 2001 (aged 10)
Oxlade-Chamberlain - 2011 (aged 17)
Ramsey - 2008 (aged 16)
Jenkinson - 2011 (aged 19)
Szczesny - 2006 (aged 16)
In football terms these guys were all young, and we gave them a crack. Jenkinson/OC/Walcott were all a bit older, but Gibbs/Szy/Ramsey/Wilshere are real young guns.
And who doesn't sign young players with a view of getting them into the first team?
Tottenham next up
certainly time to beat Cocks
I'm really nervous about this one. Especially without Arteta. I'd hate my first live derby to be a loss!
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
Tottenham next up
certainly time to beat Cocks
I'm really nervous about this one. Especially without Arteta. I'd hate my first live derby to be a loss!
yeah forgot you were going, have no fear it'll be a great day.
it will be a good test of where we're at
and hopefully bale would have left by then
Bale, will not play for Spurs.
Not sure it'll mean too much, more cheap bragging rights. Given the enormous coin Spurs have flung about once again it will be hard to get the team to gel this early. Alternately our side is weakened through injury and lack of focus in the transfer window.
what odds on 5-2 for a thirs season running :)
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
Feel like if we don't get another CM before then we'll get overrun by a very good Spuds midfield. It only worked against Fulham because they're a crap side, imo - Ros/Cazorla/Ramsey isn't a great midfield trio. I don't think Wilshere/Cazorla/Ramsey is much better either (though it looks good on paper)
a.haak
yeah cant wait for the derby, was pretty stoked with the way we played. Hopefully some of the lads can sneak a rest in for the ferna game. I'm a huge wilshere fan but i think they boy is getting caught up in the hype. How awesome was it to see Santi twist and turn away from tight situations.
If chelsea do sell mata would love to see him in a gunners shirt....wishful thinking i know
7 days left to spend 100million LOL
go gunners
@Bullion: here are the players mentioned and the age they signed for us according to wiki
Gibbs - 2004 (aged 15)
Walcott - 2006 (aged 17)
Wilshere - 2001 (aged 10)
Oxlade-Chamberlain - 2011 (aged 17)
Ramsey - 2008 (aged 16)
Jenkinson - 2011 (aged 19)
Szczesny - 2006 (aged 16)
In football terms these guys were all young, and we gave them a crack. Jenkinson/OC/Walcott were all a bit older, but Gibbs/Szy/Ramsey/Wilshere are real young guns.
And who doesn't sign young players with a view of getting them into the first team?
Still don't understand why we didn't sign up Capoue as soon as Arteta got injured. Arsene was tracking him a couple years back and he's been the Spuds best player the last 2 games. Far better for our needs than Cabaye.
a.haak
Still don't understand why we didn't sign up Capoue as soon as Arteta got injured. Arsene was tracking him a couple years back and he's been the Spuds best player the last 2 games. Far better for our needs than Cabaye.
agreed mate....spuds got him cheap as well
go gunners
It seems like Cabaye is still on the radar. Do you think Wenger doesn't plan on investing in a DMF? Maybe he prefers to have only attacking/passing midfielders in his midfield that he'll teach to defend?
7 days left to go...should be interesting.
I'm starting to wonder Brumbys. After the success of Arteta as a holding mid, and seeing Capoue and other DMF targets pass us by while we bid for Cabaye, perhaps Arsene doesn't want us to play with a proper beast in midfield anymore?
Either that or he's holding out for Diaby's return... I jest ;)
It seems like Cabaye is still on the radar. Do you think Wenger doesn't plan on investing in a DMF? Maybe he prefers to have only attacking/passing midfielders in his midfield that he'll teach to defend?
7 days left to go...should be interesting.
20 million is a bit much for cabaye personally, 15 might be good bit of business, Capoue was 8 i think arrrrh. Personally i think we should go for a DMF that can also play centre back. We really need dmf,centre back and striker.....Di maria would be handy but if we dont get the other 3 there isnt much point
go gunners
Arsene took things rather seriously this morn, only Kosc, Gibbs and Rosicky rested. Poldi did his hammy too, not sure how bad, but he's probably out a cupla weeks at least.
2-0 victory, 2 goals from Rambo, the 2nd one was really nice, clip here (but will probably get taken down pretty quickly);
Ramsey's second was all class! Skinny you called Sanogo getting the time. He didn't look great, he appeared like he's trying to prove a point and force a goal, which won't work out!
Wilshere getting targetted at the end there, not ideal...
Given Podolski is out I'm guessing we'll start with this for the derby:
Szy
Sagna Kosc Mert Gibbs
Ramsey Wilshere
Rosicky
Walcott Giroud Cazorla
In saying that I wouldn't be surprised if we did sign Flamini this week, that he started him in that midfield to beef it up a bit.
There are rumours the Flamini deal is already sorted, but that they'll announce it straight after we make a signing that actually costs money - so arsene doesn't get stick for signing two players on free transfers.
Bizarre really - if we actually cared about PR surely we would've done other things differently in this window.
Also a rumour that Juan Mata's dad was in the director's box this morn.
This topic is locked.