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Capital 2 2010

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From what I heard at training Univeristy played well but couldn't finish them. A bit of a wasted opportunity with Utd drawing with SO.
 
Tawa A demolished the Gossies in a lovely game of water polo. The pitch was a bog bar about 10 meters on either side. they were clinical and finished every single chance they had, including 3 in the first 20' which really killed us.
I have to say, the weather conditions were the same for both, so that's no excuse, but that's the 3rd time we drop points (1-1 vs Vistas, 2-1 vs Olympic and 6-1 vs Tawa A) because we try to string 3 passes together and it just doesn't work. I guess we'll have to adapt and play a bit of kick-and-chase as the pitches aren't going to get any better.
 
It's going to be a massive last two games with Utd playing both Uni sides and Tawa A still in the hunt.
 
Can anyone correct me if I'm wrong, please:
-If Utd come 1st, Uni 2nd and Tawa 3rd: Uni plays off and Utd stay in cap 2?
-If Utd come 1st, Tawa 2nd and Uni 3rd: Tawa Plays off and Utd stay in cap2?
-If Uni come 1st, Utd 2nd and Tawa 3rd: Uni goes through and there is no play-off game?
-If Uni come 1st, Tawa 2nd and Utd 3rd: Uni goes through and Tawa play off?
-If Tawa come 1st, Utd 2nd and Uni 3rd: Tawa goes through and no play off?

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A dutch trainspotter just told me to post that Tawa A can't come first.
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 I think got carried away by all the possible scenario's. Needless to say math's ain't my forte.
My point being that, in my view, if the team that comes first can't go up/gain enter to a certain cup or whatever, the teams below should share the honours.
 
I.e. Utd 1st ---> IF they can't go up, they stay.
       Uni/Tawa ---> 2nd place, but go straight up as Utd can't
       Uni/Tawa ----> 3rd place (effectively 2nd place) play off vs BNU

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I dont know about that. It gives the 3rd place team a chance that some would argue that they dont deserve. On the flip side Brooklyn or Island Bay could get a second life that they wouldnt have got otherwise.

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If Utd win the league they deserve to go up. If any team in my opinion wins the league they deserve to go up. I mean what more do you have to do to prove you are more deserving? I also think that whoever finishes last in cap1 should be instantly relegated and there should be a playoff game if you finish second to bottom.

Island Bay United     16  1  4 11  21  46   7
Brooklyn Northern     16  1  3 12  10  49   6

if you go through the whole season and only win one or two games and
concede around 3 goals per game and dont have to atleast play a promo relegation match seems rediculous to me

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I agree with you guys. I too think that if a team won their league they should go up, but evidently there are some rules regarding that (e.g. no club may, at the moment, have 2 teams in Cap 1 and up).
Therefore, if a team can't go up, why not promoting the team that came 2nd and giving the 3rd vs 2nd from bottom a play-off? By having two teams going up/down you would avoid playing the same bunch of teams over and over. I am all for that. More players, more and different teams = more fun.
 
edit: spelling
 
 
newzealandpower2010-08-10 14:56:48

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Yea I agree to some extent too but you also don't want a team in a grade that they can't handle, im not saying the team finishing 3rd in cap 2 would definitly not be up to cap 1 level/standard but that most certainly would be the case further down the grades I think, so you would then only have that rule applying for certian grades which becomes a bit messy. I have been in a team where we were not good enough for the grade and it was no fun for us or even anyone who played us, so I think you have to be wary of avoiding that where-ever possible.
How-ever having said that, my team(SO) could still finish 3rd I think( fairly unlikely now) and im pretty sure we would be fine in capital 1, particularly after the way we controlled the whole game against Wellington united  in the weekend who were top of the table, pitty for us that our key striker is out because im sure he would have had a few in the weekend.
 
 
bob-sled2010-08-10 15:49:13
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newzealandpower, you have covered all possibilities and your analysis is clear as mud! Now go and play longball, shortball or even mudball
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Would of loved 2 of string more than 3 passes 2gether, but definately wasn't the conditions for it. Thought we adapted pretty well to what was the worst ground we have played on this year. B interesting to c what condition the grounds r in this week. We r scheduled for Kura again unfortunately.
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Played at Kura in Sunday league weekend before last.  Just awful. Hard News2010-08-12 22:10:07

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Looks like the season is going to go into early September at this stage....I wonder what the chances are of us playing midweek at Te Whaea... A Friday night game up there would be a treat. Still a couple of weeks of twists and turns to be had in Cap 2  !!! 
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MaristOwl wrote:
Looks like the season is going to go into early September at this stage....I wonder what the chances are of us playing midweek at Te Whaea... A Friday night game up there would be a treat. Still a couple of weeks of twists and turns to be had in Cap 2� !!!�


maybe we should enquire about that, Mikey? the season finale Gossies vs Marist under the lights would be awesome..and maybe would be televised on sky sport 1??!!!??!

That was we could play in the UH World Cup the following week without complications. when does cricket start?

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Yeah :) hehhe . Would love that :) :) Cricket must need the pitches by early Sept surely....... Friday night cracker under lights is my vote :) 
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same here mate. especially with the Mini World Cup starting on Sept 4th

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f**k that... means teams can chop and change players around if they know they have to win to get promoted/relegated mainly upper hutt... tawa... stop out... wellington united...karori

they can all do that on saturday anyway but still at least a few of them will be on at same time as superior grades.
 
 
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that happens anyway don't it? you should know that well mate.
what are you worried about anyway? We can't drop players, Wgtn Utd (from what I hear) aren't that interested in their cap 2 team winning the league...so it's only SO and the Warfies. Let's just end the season.

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upper hutt had two mid weeks game... won one and drew the other... done jack sh*t for the rest of the season when they played on saturdays....

sure you may want to end your season so you can play in your little ethic world cup sh*t and  with your mid table mediocracy but other teams have seasons to play for
 
you want it - im against it.
 
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Playing upper hutt midweek meant was tough. Played them one weekend then just over a week later they turn up with Sam Higgins and Andy LeProu in their team. But its within the rules so they would be stupid not to do it if it can help keep them up.
 
But would rather not have midweek games for that reason
steelo2010-08-17 09:58:03
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whatever mate,
    don't have a cow. I can see you squatting in front of the computer getting all red in the face and squeezing a big one out. It was just my point of view and there's no reason to get coarse.
 
It's funny how you seem to be the champion of fair play - can't play midweek otherwise the other team will drop their first team players and we're gone.. I wonder how Marist felt when they played you guys....and lost 7-0!
 
The reality is, clubs with teams in higher grades are always going to drop players and will sometimes abuse the circumstances.
 
And as for the Multi Ethnic World Cup, not too sure what you have against it. It's a great time for people from different countries and cultures to intermingle and play some footy without the pressure of the club season.

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Marist now play Vistas next Monday on the turf

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whatever mate,
It's funny how you seem to be the champion of fair play - can't play midweek otherwise the other team will drop their first team players and we're gone.. I wonder how Marist felt when they played you guys....and lost 7-0!



He plays for Tawa B's who throughout the whole season only had one Tawa A player drop down who was regularly on the bench. Otherwise other players have dropped down from Tawa A's to the 4th team.

The Marist 7-0 game has been discussed. 3 1st team bench players were dropped down. A 17 year old school kid got 4 goals and Marist were a far different team than the first round.
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whatever mate,
   1.don't have a cow. I can see you squatting in front of the computer getting all red in the face and squeezing a big one out. It was just my point of view and there's no reason to get coarse.
 
2.It's funny how you seem to be the champion of fair play - can't play midweek otherwise the other team will drop their first team players and we're gone.. I wonder how Marist felt when they played you guys....and lost 7-0!
 
3.The reality is, clubs with teams in higher grades are always going to drop players and will sometimes abuse the circumstances.
 
4.And as for the Multi Ethnic World Cup, not too sure what you have against it. It's a great time for people from different countries and cultures to intermingle and play some footy without the pressure of the club season.
 
1- I'm telling my point of view aswell - sorry if it dosen't align to yours.
 
2- I play for Tawa - B, can't recall beating them 7-0 cause we never did.
 
3- Too true - but don't make it easier for clubs to do it
 
4- I have nothing against the multi ethnic world cup - what am against is you proposing to everyone to change games around so you can play in it.
 
bobboltontawa22010-08-17 15:52:05
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Feverish wrote:
Marist now play Vistas next Monday on the turf
 
thats a catch up - correct? nothing against that at all - be good to have the grade all finsished on the same day.
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Wooohooo , Mondays game is going to be a treat :) 
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steelo wrote:
Playing upper hutt midweek meant was tough. Played them one weekend then just over a week later they turn up with Sam Higgins and Andy LeProu in their team. But its within the rules so they would be stupid not to do it if it can help keep them up.
 
But would rather not have midweek games for that reason
I see your point. But in Upper Hutts defence. Sam played as our normal centre back got sent off on the saturday by a home teams ref.  And LeProu had played 3rd team on the Saturday as he was coming back from injury.  So only 1 player was dropped when 3 could have been.
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Oh yeah wasn't meant to be seen as a complaint, we knew it wasn't a stacked team as Matt knows most of the boys from Upper Hutt adnwe had also played the first team earlier in the year. Just saying that midweek games means clubs with teams in higher grades can plug those gaps with players that may not have been available to them if it was a Saturday game.
 
But if midweek games are the way we can get grades finished before September then its a neccessay evil. Plus playing on the turf is fantastic, rewards teams that try to play the ball around and takes alot of the abnormalities that the pitches throw up toward the end of the season out of the game.
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whatever mate,
   1.don't have a cow. I can see you squatting in front of the computer getting all red in the face and squeezing a big one out. It was just my point of view and there's no reason to get coarse.
 
2.It's funny how you seem to be the champion of fair play - can't play midweek otherwise the other team will drop their first team players and we're gone.. I wonder how Marist felt when they played you guys....and lost 7-0!
 
3.The reality is, clubs with teams in higher grades are always going to drop players and will sometimes abuse the circumstances.
 
4.And as for the Multi Ethnic World Cup, not too sure what you have against it. It's a great time for people from different countries and cultures to intermingle and play some footy without the pressure of the club season.
 
1- I'm telling my point of view aswell - sorry if it dosen't align to yours.
 
2- I play for Tawa - B, can't recall beating them 7-0 cause we never did.
 
3- Too true - but don't make it easier for clubs to do it
 
4- I have nothing against the multi ethnic world cup - what am against is you proposing to everyone to change games around so you can play in it.
 
Haha come on mate, I had it from a good Tawa source that Tawa were planning on sending your team a bit of help had the Tawa B vs Stop Out game gone ahead as scheduled. Aparently it was a bit of a priority to get your team the remaining points it needs to guarentee staying in this league.
If your a club and a team who is in a position to drop some people down to help get a result, then good on you, and if your a club and a team who are not in a position to do that, then thats your team and clubs problem! get over it!
 
P.s Go the ethnic tourney! from what I hear its a good tourney and a lot of fun for all!
Sounds good to me.
Anyone going need another player? haha.
bob-sled2010-08-18 15:11:17
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bob-sled wrote:
whatever mate,
   1.don't have a cow. I can see you squatting in front of the computer getting all red in the face and squeezing a big one out. It was just my point of view and there's no reason to get coarse.
 
2.It's funny how you seem to be the champion of fair play - can't play midweek otherwise the other team will drop their first team players and we're gone.. I wonder how Marist felt when they played you guys....and lost 7-0!
 
3.The reality is, clubs with teams in higher grades are always going to drop players and will sometimes abuse the circumstances.
 
4.And as for the Multi Ethnic World Cup, not too sure what you have against it. It's a great time for people from different countries and cultures to intermingle and play some footy without the pressure of the club season.
 
1- I'm telling my point of view aswell - sorry if it dosen't align to yours.
 
2- I play for Tawa - B, can't recall beating them 7-0 cause we never did.
 
3- Too true - but don't make it easier for clubs to do it
 
4- I have nothing against the multi ethnic world cup - what am against is you proposing to everyone to change games around so you can play in it.
 
Haha come on mate, I had it from a good Tawa source that Tawa were planning on sending your team a bit of help had the Tawa B vs Stop Out game gone ahead as scheduled. Aparently it was a bit of a priority to get your team the remaining points it needs to guarentee staying in this league.
If your a club and a team who is in a position to drop some people down to help get a result, then good on you, and if your a club and a team who are not in a position to do that, then thats your team and clubs problem! get over it!
 
P.s Go the ethnic tourney! from what I hear its a good tourney and a lot of fun for all!
Sounds good to me.
Anyone going need another player? haha.
 
not really - i think it was more about certain a romijn family member cant go without playing football for a week hence he finds any team that will take him. If the club really wanted to help our team stay in this grade they would at least drop a decent player
 
 
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bob-sled wrote:
whatever mate,
   1.don't have a cow. I can see you squatting in front of the computer getting all red in the face and squeezing a big one out. It was just my point of view and there's no reason to get coarse.
 
2.It's funny how you seem to be the champion of fair play - can't play midweek otherwise the other team will drop their first team players and we're gone.. I wonder how Marist felt when they played you guys....and lost 7-0!
 
3.The reality is, clubs with teams in higher grades are always going to drop players and will sometimes abuse the circumstances.
 
4.And as for the Multi Ethnic World Cup, not too sure what you have against it. It's a great time for people from different countries and cultures to intermingle and play some footy without the pressure of the club season.
 
1- I'm telling my point of view aswell - sorry if it dosen't align to yours.
 
2- I play for Tawa - B, can't recall beating them 7-0 cause we never did.
 
3- Too true - but don't make it easier for clubs to do it
 
4- I have nothing against the multi ethnic world cup - what am against is you proposing to everyone to change games around so you can play in it.
 
Haha come on mate, I had it from a good Tawa source that Tawa were planning on sending your team a bit of help had the Tawa B vs Stop Out game gone ahead as scheduled. Aparently it was a bit of a priority to get your team the remaining points it needs to guarentee staying in this league.
If your a club and a team who is in a position to drop some people down to help get a result, then good on you, and if your a club and a team who are not in a position to do that, then thats your team and clubs problem! get over it!
 
P.s Go the ethnic tourney! from what I hear its a good tourney and a lot of fun for all!
Sounds good to me.
Anyone going need another player? haha.
 
not really - i think it was more about certain a romijn family member cant go without playing football for a week hence he finds any team that will take him. If the club really wanted to help our team stay in this grade they would at least drop a decent player
 
 
Haha I dont know, I played a bit of football with the romijn in question here and I'm pretty sure he would benifit any team in this league, depending on how many beerz he had the night before ofcorse.
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bob-sled we're quite full up for now but you could be one of our ring-ins if you like? otherwise ask Marist Owl (mike). he has a team too, they might need a player.
it's a loooot of fun~

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Cheers Giuliano. We've got heaps though eh. Marist first and seconds boys all keen to get a game......

Catch you Saturday for the big game :)
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MaristOwl wrote:
Cheers Giuliano. We've got heaps though eh. Marist first and seconds boys all keen to get a game......

Catch you Saturday for the big game :)
I'll be there, though it looks like I won't be lighting up the place with my skills on the park.
hopefully I'll get the lads to play 3-6-1 and we'll snatch a 2-1 victory :) jokes
 
 

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todays results?
Upper Hutt won 2 nil over Waterside
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have heard WU drew and have taken the league, didn't get the score

Fuck this stupid game

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Tawa B won 5-1 over Olympic.  And yes, Tawa B had 2 first teamers playing, because we can (just before anyone starts raising that subject again).
 
All down to next week to see who goes down with Wharfies.
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All results and table:CAPITAL 2:
Olympic               1    Tawa B                5
Marist                2    Uni Gossies           2
University 1st XI     1    Wellington United     1
Tawa A                1    Stop Out              0
Upper Hutt City       2    Karori Vistas         0                       P  W  D  L  GF  GA  Pts
Wellington United     17 11  4  2  32  14  37
University 1st XI     17  9  6  2  29  13  33
Tawa A                17 10  2  5  46  24  32
Stop Out              17  7  4  6  25  23  25
Uni Gossies           17  5  6  6  26  33  21
Olympic               17  6  2  9  29  35  20
Tawa B                17  5  5  7  22  31  20
Marist                16  5  4  7  23  25  19
Upper Hutt City       17  5  3  9  25  38  18
Karori Vistas         16  1  4 11  19  40   7
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not to sure if you can drop players if that team has already finished there games. A real grey area here. If you can your silly not to. We should look to do that next week as our 1sts have now finished.
 
Tough game at Redwood yesterday. The pitch was shocking and I think both teams would of been happy if we were transferred off it.
Really hard to try and play football on. Tawa scored from some poor marking on our behalf.
Thought we may have pinched a draw at the end. Still not sure how Lance managed to keep that sequence of shots out.
 
Hey but thats football
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Last time I checked, but that was a while ago, you had to "regrade players" from a higher team - that meant they had to play 3(?) games for the lower team to be considered 'regraded', but tbh the rules are too shady, so I don't know.

Gossies drew with Marist 2-2. We, as it's been happening in the last few weeks, gifted them a goal in the opening minutes and then it was all up hill. We equalized in the first half, from a corner kick which had actually gone in, but the ref didn't call it - and thankfully we tapped it in still.
Marist's second was a screamer from their n.5 Pete. He threw himself at the ball just outside the left hand corner of our penalty box, he hit it on the full and put it in the top right corner. bloody hell!!

I had to take one of our boys to hospital as he got a nasty head wound from a mid-air collision so didn't see our second goal.

Marist are a real nice bunch of guys. Every time we played them it's a tough game and everyone wants to win those 50/50. There are fouls, there's pushing and banter. But there's never any malice. That's why I enjoy playing those guys more than any other team.

And I want to thank their coach for helping us look after our injured player who was gushing blood from his head and was obviously in shock.

That's all I have to report from the "Battle of the Fallen Giants" as I've renamed the game.

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[QUOTE=nakisponge] not to sure if you can drop players if that team has already finished there games. A real grey area here. If you can your silly not to. We should look to do that next week as our 1sts have now finished.
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tawas 1st still have a game to go and its not for 3 weeks or something so why not give these players game time in the lower grades to keep fit and help the teams out that are battling for relegation etc but thats enough im over hearing people complain and moan of this
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not having a moan. its one of the pros of being a second team. we all know it works the opposite when the 1sts are short
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