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23 Aug 07:14
Somebody check on hot chips, he won’t be in a good mood
24 Aug 21:20
Nah I'm good lol.
I've said before they are a good team just a few dickheads spoil it really. 

I have no clue what's going to happen in the next round. Instinct tells me Cap Prem is a higher standard but its hard to compare.
24 Aug 22:35
Does anyone know if any Capital premier sides are interested ? From memory last season wainui and Marist weren't interested in getting into CL2. And the only other CPL side that is not a reserve side is University who are bottom .
Might be a straight forward promotion for Wanganui.
25 Aug 00:45 · edited 25 Aug 00:46 · History
chubbs
Does anyone know if any Capital premier sides are interested ? From memory last season wainui and Marist weren't interested in getting into CL2. And the only other CPL side that is not a reserve side is University who are bottom .
Might be a straight forward promotion for Wanganui.
Wainuiomata have said on their facebook that they will be challenging for the spot
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I'm positive things will go wrong.
13 Sep 05:18 · edited 13 Sep 05:21 · History
I've made my distaste for some of Whanganui Athletic's antics pretty clear on here, but I must say I'm very disappointed they shat he bed so badly today...

Now we have to play them twice next season 😭
15 Sep 06:14 · edited 15 Sep 06:15 · History
Some proper drama on the Athletic Facebook page with their club president calling out their fans behaviour on Saturday, and fans having a pop back at him. Lol
15 Sep 08:16
hotchips
Some proper drama on the Athletic Facebook page with their club president calling out their fans behaviour on Saturday, and fans having a pop back at him. Lol

Screenshots? 
I got rid of Facebook recently, well, because it's just shark tbh...
15 Sep 09:55
hotchips
Some proper drama on the Athletic Facebook page with their club president calling out their fans behaviour on Saturday, and fans having a pop back at him. Lol

So did the wanga team go to Nui clubbies?

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15 Sep 21:15
my experience as a ref when wainui are involved is that their followers are ferral!
Closest I've actually come to feeling threatened and concerned for my own safety was an away game for them against Wellington United, U17's.

Queenslander 3x a year.

16 Sep 05:06 · edited 16 Sep 05:07 · History
Now deleted lol but I did screenshot it, cant work out how to post it here
16 Sep 05:08 · edited 16 Sep 05:09 · History
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Top fan Bruce McGhie
As the current President of Whanganui Athletic FC, I would personally like to apologise to the Wainuiomata team and supporters for the lack of common decency shown by our travelling supporters. It was extremely disappointing and embarrassing as President that myself and my wife were the only visitors to attend your Clubrooms for the after match function to not only support your efforts to provide food and drink, but also support our team who were all understandably disappointed by the result. It was a pleasure to have the Wainui supporters in Whanganui the previous week and despite the result on that day and the crowd banter, you a ll showed agreat deal of support to your team and our new Clubrooms which was greatly appreciated by us all. In terms of achieving higher status on the field we still have a way to go, however in terms of our Club culture and general lack of respect to the wider footballing community, we have unfortunately, a long, long way to go. My apologies once again to all of your members who went the extra mile for our benefit. Bruce McGhie President WAFC
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16 Sep 05:45 · edited 16 Sep 05:48 · History
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Top fan Bruce McGhie
As the current President of Whanganui Athletic FC, I would personally like to apologise to the Wainuiomata team and supporters for the lack of common decency shown by our travelling supporters. It was extremely disappointing and embarrassing as President that myself and my wife were the only visitors to attend your Clubrooms for the after match function to not only support your efforts to provide food and drink, but also support our team who were all understandably disappointed by the result. It was a pleasure to have the Wainui supporters in Whanganui the previous week and despite the result on that day and the crowd banter, you a ll showed agreat deal of support to your team and our new Clubrooms which was greatly appreciated by us all. In terms of achieving higher status on the field we still have a way to go, however in terms of our Club culture and general lack of respect to the wider footballing community, we have unfortunately, a long, long way to go. My apologies once again to all of your members who went the extra mile for our benefit. Bruce McGhie President WAFC
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Jesus wept. Bad losers or what?
18 Sep 09:50
Jessie Merino
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Top fan Bruce McGhie
As the current President of Whanganui Athletic FC, I would personally like to apologise to the Wainuiomata team and supporters for the lack of common decency shown by our travelling supporters. It was extremely disappointing and embarrassing as President that myself and my wife were the only visitors to attend your Clubrooms for the after match function to not only support your efforts to provide food and drink, but also support our team who were all understandably disappointed by the result. It was a pleasure to have the Wainui supporters in Whanganui the previous week and despite the result on that day and the crowd banter, you a ll showed agreat deal of support to your team and our new Clubrooms which was greatly appreciated by us all. In terms of achieving higher status on the field we still have a way to go, however in terms of our Club culture and general lack of respect to the wider footballing community, we have unfortunately, a long, long way to go. My apologies once again to all of your members who went the extra mile for our benefit. Bruce McGhie President WAFC
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Jesus wept. Bad losers or what?


Wainui are no angels. A couple of years ago I heard them singing a most disgraceful song after beating an opposing team. I have not watched them play this year but normally they scream and yell for free kicks continually during games. I noticed from Facebook posts that many supporters are drinking alcohol on the sideline. Why does Capital Football not have a regulation that prohibits this?
18 Sep 18:48
If I lost a final playoff I wouldn’t fancy going to a clubrooms let alone Wainuis. Who cares? Chairman has had a shocker here. I assume the players and mgmt went back

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19 Sep 00:33
Feverish
If I lost a final playoff I wouldn’t fancy going to a clubrooms let alone Wainuis. Who cares? Chairman has had a shocker here. I assume the players and mgmt went back

Way I read it was the President & players were at the after match ( free feed?) But none of their supporters bothered to show. 
22 Sep 01:30 · edited 22 Sep 01:34 · History
Any word from anybody about any teams that weren't in the leagues that might be interested? I'm trying to figure out what they might look like next year but the only change out of both leagues I can see happening is Gisborne Boys High dropping out due to the fact they ended up defaulting the second half of the season. 
Also finding it hard to think of any teams in Hawkes Bay or Gisborne that would even be interested in being promoted to the Eastern Premiership. The only other clubs in Hawkes Bay not involved are Eskview (who haven't been in the prem leagues for years), Hastings Hibernian (who also haven't competed above social levels in years), and Napier South who I'm not sure have ever played really competitively. Gisborne doesn't look super strong as well, the league below Prems was won by a social team named after a local pub.
22 Sep 02:10


Would supporters usually go to an away teams after match? wouldn’t have thought it was too normal 
Jessie Merino
Feverish
If I lost a final playoff I wouldn’t fancy going to a clubrooms let alone Wainuis. Who cares? Chairman has had a shocker here. I assume the players and mgmt went back

Way I read it was the President & players were at the after match ( free feed?) But none of their supporters bothered to show. 
22 Sep 03:29
Tyler


Would supporters usually go to an away teams after match? wouldn’t have thought it was too normal 
Jessie Merino
Feverish
If I lost a final playoff I wouldn’t fancy going to a clubrooms let alone Wainuis. Who cares? Chairman has had a shocker here. I assume the players and mgmt went back

Way I read it was the President & players were at the after match ( free feed?) But none of their supporters bothered to show. 

Probably not. But I guess this being last game of season plus the special occasion of a promo play off it sounds like the invitation had been offered and agreed upon - by both clubs' management if not by fans. Sounds like the Wanga president was expecting his mob to show at any rate.
24 Sep 21:09
bigfudge
Any word from anybody about any teams that weren't in the leagues that might be interested? I'm trying to figure out what they might look like next year but the only change out of both leagues I can see happening is Gisborne Boys High dropping out due to the fact they ended up defaulting the second half of the season. 
Also finding it hard to think of any teams in Hawkes Bay or Gisborne that would even be interested in being promoted to the Eastern Premiership. The only other clubs in Hawkes Bay not involved are Eskview (who haven't been in the prem leagues for years), Hastings Hibernian (who also haven't competed above social levels in years), and Napier South who I'm not sure have ever played really competitively. Gisborne doesn't look super strong as well, the league below Prems was won by a social team named after a local pub.


Not sure about the West

Eskview as you mentioned are probably the closest club to having a prems side that aren’t there. They won HB Division 2 and potentially will move up to the reserve league. But would be miles away from Prems. 

The only other change I could see, would be that CF allowing Napier City to have a second team in the league. Mainly because their reserve team has won the reserve league back to back and without losing a league game in two years.

The league will likely still have two Gisborne sides. So looking like a 9 team league unless NCR are allowed in. 
25 Sep 04:53
NCR without doubt should have 2 teams in it. Reserves and a proper youth team of 15 16 17 year olds, like they used to have. 
02 Oct 23:15 · edited 02 Oct 23:18 · History
mraotxt2
bigfudge
Any word from anybody about any teams that weren't in the leagues that might be interested? I'm trying to figure out what they might look like next year but the only change out of both leagues I can see happening is Gisborne Boys High dropping out due to the fact they ended up defaulting the second half of the season. 
Also finding it hard to think of any teams in Hawkes Bay or Gisborne that would even be interested in being promoted to the Eastern Premiership. The only other clubs in Hawkes Bay not involved are Eskview (who haven't been in the prem leagues for years), Hastings Hibernian (who also haven't competed above social levels in years), and Napier South who I'm not sure have ever played really competitively. Gisborne doesn't look super strong as well, the league below Prems was won by a social team named after a local pub.


Not sure about the West

Eskview as you mentioned are probably the closest club to having a prems side that aren’t there. They won HB Division 2 and potentially will move up to the reserve league. But would be miles away from Prems. 

The only other change I could see, would be that CF allowing Napier City to have a second team in the league. Mainly because their reserve team has won the reserve league back to back and without losing a league game in two years.

The league will likely still have two Gisborne sides. So looking like a 9 team league unless NCR are allowed in. 
Like the idea of this, honestly seems like the only other team that could potentially field a prems side. I'm a fan of the West and East Prem league model as it gives clubs that wouldn't normally be able to make the jump to Fed League but wouldn't be surprised if teams like Napier Marist and Wanganui City decide to drop down a league. As well as the potential changes to National League in the next few years, wouldn't be surprised if we see some more changes to the East and West Prem leagues.

Also wouldn't be surprised if we only get another season or two out of Gisborne United as well. In every single news article about them this season it seemed like they were constantly talking about how last season was a chance for a lot of their players to have one last hurrah. Seemed like it only happened because of support from CF when they were trying to get 3 Gisborne teams in the league.
11 Oct 20:50
From CF end of season meeting Western Prems is a 10 team league next year with Wanganui City relegated. Clubs want 18 game season without the top half bottom half split we had this year.
14 Oct 07:55
hotchips
From CF end of season meeting Western Prems is a 10 team league next year with Wanganui City relegated. Clubs want 18 game season without the top half bottom half split we had this year.
 Makes more sense if they're wanting to go all in on the east/west system
29 Oct 22:41
With today's confirmation of the new National League there will be a shake up at this level. With CL losing 4 teams to the National League presumably 4 CL2 teams will go up and need replacing from the Prems?
30 Oct 22:57
hotchips
With today's confirmation of the new National League there will be a shake up at this level. With CL losing 4 teams to the National League presumably 4 CL2 teams will go up and need replacing from the Prems?

I had heard that they were looking at reinstating the Fed League below CL2. However with this announcement they’ll likely throw that idea away. 

31 Oct 00:43 · edited 31 Oct 00:53 · History
mraotxt2
hotchips
With today's confirmation of the new National League there will be a shake up at this level. With CL losing 4 teams to the National League presumably 4 CL2 teams will go up and need replacing from the Prems?

I had heard that they were looking at reinstating the Fed League below CL2. However with this announcement they’ll likely throw that idea away. 


They are bringing in Fed League for the women 6-8 team league. Also introducing Women's Masters leagues in Manawatu and Hawkes Bay.

East-West Prems are here to stay. I'd say likely Whanganui Athletic, Havelock North get promoted to CL2 alongside Wainuiomata and they don't relegate Te Kotahitanga - although looking at their results they might want to drop down.

Other changes are an Import rule for West/East Prems, 2 Masters divisions in Manawatu, proposing solutions to the higher number of defaults than usual last year.
13 Dec 02:54
Will that come into effect the season after maybe? If the new National League is coming in in 2027 surely they'd use 2026 as a way to sort out qualifying for the new league as well as for CL2, Cap Prem, and East/West leagues? 
14 Dec 01:44
Don’t think they know year but will CL2 continue with a winter national league? Maybe not
14 Dec 18:03
I was on such a high at the prospect of not having to visit Whanganui that I missed the part it starts in 2027. Wishful thinking I guess!
31 Jan 02:54
Has anyone heard any updates about which clubs are likely to play in 2026 East and West Prems? Or just any news on clubs looking good for next season?
01 Feb 04:11
Jimmy Sommerton apparently moving to Gisborne United this year, sounds like Thistle are losing a few this year and might look at imports again.
01 Feb 10:15
bigfudge
Jimmy Sommerton apparently moving to Gisborne United this year, sounds like Thistle are losing a few this year and might look at imports again.

Gisborne United were pretty solid last year. They were hampered with injuries most of the year as well. With a decent striker up top they’d challenge for the title.
 
Got to think that NCR and Havelock will be the teams to beat again. Early days in pre season to know the squads yet though. 
01 Feb 17:04 · edited 01 Feb 21:31 · History
Who is replacing HSOB in the East, or are CF going to stuff up that comp like the West last year?

In the West still waiting to see if anyone has dropped out. Would be kind of nice to see Whanganui City get a reprieve from relegation - they at least took in all the young players Athletic kicked out.

Frontrunners out West clearly should be Whanganui Athletic, although they have been very quiet on social media for a change - just a few of their imports leaving.

NP Rangers surely can't start as badly as they did last year, they were a much better team than their position suggests. Don't know much about the other Naki teams.

Lots of changes in Palmy, Marist Reserves coach moving to Takaro taking a few lads with him. Very quiet out of Marist but believe they are losing a bunch of players. Feilding apparently have a lot of players returning who skipped last season so should be stronger. PNU had over 70 players turn up for their 1st team trial so you'd have to think their Ressies will be strong.

Early doors for the friendlies etc first result I have heard of was PNU 9 - 1 Takaro on Saturday. PNU 1st team for 1st half went in 7 - 0 at the break, then mass subs for 2nd half.

CF claim it will be an 18 game season in the West, and both a Fed and Prem cup to play for, so should be a good season.
02 Feb 02:54
Good points, also wondering what promotion looks like this year with the new proposed changes to National League and Central League. My guess is that 4 teams will go up from CL, top four in CL2 will go up to CL, and then I'm hoping two from Cap Prem and then the winners of East and West Prems will go up to CL2
02 Feb 03:38 · edited 02 Feb 03:38 · History
I'll be very surprised if anyone replaces HSOB in the East Prems, the next biggest teams in the Gisborne area would be Wainui, Shockers, and Wairoa, but none of them have made any attempts at doing anything other than local league. In Hawkes Bay the bigger teams that aren't in Prems already are Eskview and Hastings Hibernian who both haven't played Prems since like 2018. Seems like it will just be back to a 9 team tournament (which it was for the second half of the season anyway). Still question marks around Maycenvale who are losing a lot of players, and teams like Napier Marist and Western Rangers who struggled last year and are also facing exodus' of players.
02 Feb 04:29
bigfudge
I'll be very surprised if anyone replaces HSOB in the East Prems, the next biggest teams in the Gisborne area would be Wainui, Shockers, and Wairoa, but none of them have made any attempts at doing anything other than local league. In Hawkes Bay the bigger teams that aren't in Prems already are Eskview and Hastings Hibernian who both haven't played Prems since like 2018. Seems like it will just be back to a 9 team tournament (which it was for the second half of the season anyway). Still question marks around Maycenvale who are losing a lot of players, and teams like Napier Marist and Western Rangers who struggled last year and are also facing exodus' of players.

I would not be surprised at all to see Napier Marist not be able to field a team. They struggled towards the end of last season and I know of two players that have already committed elsewhere. They do not have a reserve team and their second team play in Division 3. I really hope they survive, but I just can’t see it.

Western Rangers will field a team, their club is well run and they always have lots of players. They are just hit and miss on quality. But their reserve side last year was young and did really well. So they may improve as the young ones get older.

There was talk about allowing NCR to have a second prems side, as one of their teams in the reserve league have won it the last 3 years or so without losing many (if any games). But I’m not sure how that would go with the other clubs. I’m not affiliated with NCR, but if allowing them two teams was the difference between a 9 and 10 team league. I’d be happy for it to happen.  

02 Feb 23:13
bigfudge
Good points, also wondering what promotion looks like this year with the new proposed changes to National League and Central League. My guess is that 4 teams will go up from CL, top four in CL2 will go up to CL, and then I'm hoping two from Cap Prem and then the winners of East and West Prems will go up to CL2


I would like to see National League and Central League reserves teams eligible for CL2 in 2027.
05 Feb 21:15
Heard a rumor that some CL2 teams have dropped out of the league this year? Anybody else heard anything about this?
06 Feb 21:36
bigfudge
Heard a rumor that some CL2 teams have dropped out of the league this year? Anybody else heard anything about this?
Interesting rumour especially considering it's relatively close to the start of the season now. Which clubs have you heard are dropping out? 
07 Feb 00:40
The draw is out (albeit in draft) so I’d be surprised if that was true.