Australian Championship Thread

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about 1 year ago
theprof
Noah4thenix
coochiee
A few years ago the APL mooted eventually having 20 ALM teams split into a 10 team A1 & 10 team A2 (bit similar how the J Leagues in Japan came to be). With yeah pro/rel between the 2 tiers.

We are currently at 13 teams. Canberra makes 14. 

Christchurch and maybe Tasmania could be 15 & 16. Then yeah you need say 4 teams from the NPL leagues ie the better performers, especially crowds and money wise, from this new 2nd tier setup.

It won't happen quickly but it could happen. Though for every successful recent entrant like Auckland you have Macarther and Western U struggling along (crowd wise anyway).


Two 10-team leagues just sounds boring imo. IDK what it was like when the A-league had 10 teams but I feel like we should focus on having a longer season (by having more teams in one league) rather than pro/rel with 10-teams a side

Aleague with 10 teams was odd much like it is with 13. We played some teams 3 times and some twice. All to get a season with more than 18 games per team. Ideally, the Aleague wants to target a season length of 26+ games per team. Which means you need 14+ teams in the league. Assuming Canberra arrive in 2027 the league achieves that.

Having had a 10 team SPL for yonks, I can categorically state it's not the way to go. Whilst we played each team 4 times, it got boring as hell, not helped by the duopoly of course. 14 or 16 is the sweet spot imo. 
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Martotheprof
about 1 year ago
Get Canberra in. 14 teams. Everyone plays each other home and away. Bin off the finals series.

Finally after 20 years the A-League becomes a proper league.

Three for me, and two for them.

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newzealandpowerSimon Btheprof
about 1 year ago
$50 on Christchurch being in the A League before Canberra.
Supporter of the world's best football teams: Waikato..., Kingz FC, NZ Knights, The Nix, The Argyle & of course the All Whites

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about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
Marto
$50 on Christchurch being in the A League before Canberra.

Likely the same problem as Canberra, lack of a billionaire American backer.

If anything Christchurch United entering the new OFC Professional League, could slow down any momentum for a South Island franchise to enter the A League.

Slava Meyn could just be quite content having a professional club in the FIFA funded OFC League. No $20,000,000 plus entry fee required, but pro football comes to the Garden City in a low cost format.

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about 1 year ago
coochiee
Marto
$50 on Christchurch being in the A League before Canberra.

Likely the same problem as Canberra, lack of a billionaire American backer.

If anything Christchurch United entering the new OFC Professional League, could slow down any momentum for a South Island franchise to enter the A League.

Slava Meyn could just be quite content having a professional club in the FIFA funded OFC League. No $20,000,000 plus entry fee required, but pro football comes to the Garden City in a low cost format.


I'm sure he wants that A League profile. As much as I'm keen as for the OFC pro league, I think most kiwis will be ambivalent towards it, even in Christchurch.
Supporter of the world's best football teams: Waikato..., Kingz FC, NZ Knights, The Nix, The Argyle & of course the All Whites

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Yipe agree. But Meyn has made it clear, paying a $20M approx franchise entry fee, and then funding a likely loss making ALM club is beyond his means.

He'll for sure take the much lower profile OFC League, with the sweet FIFA gravy train cash.

Who knows if peace maker Trumpy can seal a Ukrainian ceashfire deal, that could be good for the Russian meat trade.
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newzealandpower
about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
Buffon II
Get Canberra in. 14 teams. Everyone plays each other home and away. Bin off the finals series.

Finally after 20 years the A-League becomes a proper league.

The A League will always have a final series. Dreamland stuff to ever think otherwise. For a cash strapped comp, the extra TV money and crowd revenue is hugely important. We ain't Europe.

But yeah a proper even numbered H&A season would be ideal. 14 teams (even 16 teams with 30 regular season games) provides that.

If (big IF) the ALM ever did get to 20 teams with A1 & A2 divisions (so only 18 H&A games), it might start the season with some sort of crossover cup competition. Sort of similar to how countries like Scotland and Sweden start their seasons with a League Cup comp, involving clubs from the various tiers in groups.

Do that for 6 weeks to give yourself another 6 games of 'product' to sell the broadcasters. Plus you are going to have extra promotion/relegation playoffs at the end of the season which will have lots of novelty factor (no other Aussie sports have relegation) and tension.


Or rather than some early season League Cup, you play 2 full rounds H&A (18 games), then split into something like

Championship Round (top 6 teams A1) with a Grand Final
Relegation/Promotion Round (bottom 4 teams A1 & top 4 teams A2) with a Playoff Final
???? Round (bottom 6 teams A2) winner of this Round gets some sort of incentive for next season

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about 1 year ago
Yeh I think there’s a Scandinavian or European competition like that right? 
After a certain number of rounds they split into a top half and bottom half scenario. 
That’s a potentially viable option.


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about 1 year ago
martinb
Yeh I think there’s a Scandinavian or European competition like that right? 
After a certain number of rounds they split into a top half and bottom half scenario. 
That’s a potentially viable option.

We do this in Scotland (top and bottom 6) for the final 5 games. As much as it’s hated by traditionalists, it does actually bring spice back to the final games. I actually like it.
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9 months ago
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RR

It's over before a ball has even been kicked. What a waste of time. 😂

In turn though, this could see some of these clubs pivot towards the OFC League down the line whenever that competition looks to expand.
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newzealandpowertheprof
9 months ago
YoungHeartHM
RR

It's over before a ball has even been kicked. What a waste of time. 😂

In turn though, this could see some of these clubs pivot towards the OFC League down the line whenever that competition looks to expand.
 The League ain't ready for 2 divs. Half the teams in the A-League aren't that viable financially.
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brMartonewzealandpowerSouthernix+1
9 months ago
The A League shouldn’t even think about a div 2 until it gets to at least 16 teams, but preferably 18.

The regular season being only 26-27 matches long is embarrassing. No decent league should be playing less than 30 matches, and a lot of decent footballing countries have all sorts of bonus cup competitions and stuff to provide an opportunity for more rotation and development of squads.

Nothing wrong with taking their time to carefully grow the game.
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brcoochieeMartonewzealandpower+4
9 months ago
observerfromuh
YoungHeartHM
RR

It's over before a ball has even been kicked. What a waste of time. 😂

In turn though, this could see some of these clubs pivot towards the OFC League down the line whenever that competition looks to expand.
 The League ain't ready for 2 divs. Half the teams in the A-League aren't that viable financially.

Couldn't agree more.

Makes all the clamouring from people in Australian sokkah circles who are wanting to implement a pro/rel model as soon as possible look absolutely bonkers as well.

Walk before you can crawl and all that. Just daft when the A-League is pretty much on its knees as it stands currently.
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SkSouthernixWanderingSheep
9 months ago
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They tweeted this out today

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8 months ago
RR
Wouldnt want the shambles that is the Tigers buying a share of my club

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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8 months ago
So Heidelberg will take a spot in Group B if they win the Vic NPL? I hear they’ve been doing ok this year.
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LGMonewzealandpowerOi Oi Edgecumbe
8 months ago
Love that it says the 'Fixtures are finally here' - bit of a dig at the A-League?
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8 months ago
Simon B
So Heidelberg will take a spot in Group B if they win the Vic NPL? I hear they’ve been doing ok this year.
They only have to come 2nd in the Vic NPL as Avondale FC who are currently in 1st (and can't finish lower than 2nd) are a foundation club of the Aus Championship so are already qualified. 

If Heidelberg lose their final game and Dandenong Thunder win theirs then Dandenong will come 2nd by GD over Heidelberg
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LGnewzealandpowerSimon B
7 months ago

I would have to assume that Football Australia gave them the rights for a nominal fee?
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7 months ago
SBS - 'Soccer Bloody Soccer' as it's been coined since the Johnny Warren, Les Murray days.

Yipe being state owned and loss making they would have paid a pittance.
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6 months ago
So, will the South Melb first team play in the Championship or the OFC pro league?

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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6 months ago
Bruno Fornaroli joins George Ott at Avondale!

Ryan Feutz is still at Sydney Olympic, so looks like he hasn't scored an ALM gig anywhere.
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newzealandpower
6 months ago
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
So, will the South Melb first team play in the Championship or the OFC pro league?
 The competitions have zero overlap
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andrewvoerman
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
So, will the South Melb first team play in the Championship or the OFC pro league?
 The competitions have zero overlap

For someone like Seth Clark (an ex Cantab) at Sydney Olympic the Aus Championship could even be a shop window, if South Island FC were interested in signing him for the OFC League.

Would though mean almost 18 months of continuous football if Clark, or other NPL Kiwis like Ott, Wellsmore, Feutz, Zoričić were an option for the OFC comp
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YoungHeartHM
6 months ago
Quite a smart move getting free to air TV for the new  AusChampionship. If the financials work out this new comp could be very succesful. When you spend time reading Oz football sites you quickly realise there is a lot of Oz football fans who are strongly anti the A League.
By tapping into the traditional Oz football community who passionately support the old clubs football Australia could be on to a winner.
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Kinewzealandpower
6 months ago
Anyone figured out how to watch from NZ? Youtube like Aus Cup?
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newzealandpower
6 months ago
Jamdogg
Anyone figured out how to watch from NZ? Youtube like Aus Cup?

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newzealandpower
6 months ago
What's the difference between Simulcast and normal YT streaming?

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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6 months ago
newzealandpower
What's the difference between Simulcast and normal YT streaming?
No difference, just means it'll be streamed on YT at the same time as its broadcast on SBS in Aus
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newzealandpower
6 months ago
‘Simultaneously broadcast’ on TV and YouTube. 


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