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Auckland A-League Franchise 2012-13

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If I win the aussie lottery tonight, we won't have debt with IRD anymore lets just say that.
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AJ13 wrote:

Robb wrote:

scribbler wrote:
[QUOTE=AJ13]I hope they get a licence, so we can trounce them




Who's we? Scott Base United (against frostbite and boredom)?
Hey we're pretty good, Antarctic Confederation Champions in fact
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Maybe the Phoenix can play in that champions league then seen as no one else wants them JordyBean2011-02-20 02:41:20
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I,d rather see a OFC Island A-League team before a 2nd NZ team. And this should happen come 2013.

Mr Positive

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Royz wrote:
I,d rather see a OFC Island A-League team before a 2nd NZ team. And this should happen come 2013.
 
the finances and logistics of that are so improbable as to make it the least likely of all expansion options - no matter how the FFA choose to placate the OFC i.e. that has zero chance of happening.

Normo's coming home

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I know it seems unlikely in the current scheme of things, JD.. but what if they were based in Auckland?
 Essentially then an OFC team would deal with logistics no less harrowing than the Nix.In fact, with the added benefit of more direct flights than Wellington!
 If the OFC needed to be placated or votes required in essential elections looming, Blatter at FIFA or even Bin Hammam for that matter could easily stump up with cash, in the guise of various football outreach programmes that happen globally.
It could also come from, or via the FFA itself.
Remember this in 2009?
www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federation/confederations/news/newsid=1094553.html

We see a shortage of players in the A-League in a few positions.As far as the FFA is concerned  a few million spent over a few years might be money well spent if cheaper, talented footballers are identified, bought into the A league pool via an OFC team.
Again I will say unlikely, but stranger things have happened in the politics of Football.
RedGed2011-02-20 13:47:27

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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james dean wrote:
Royz wrote:
I,d rather see a OFC Island A-League team before a 2nd NZ team. And this should happen come 2013.
 
the finances and logistics of that are so improbable as to make it the least likely of all expansion options - no matter how the FFA choose to placate the OFC i.e. that has zero chance of happening.
It is highly unlikely but I would not say it has zero chance. The previous proposal of a OCF team based in Noumea and coached by ex French international Christian Karembeau has not completely been dismissed. New Caledonia has the worlds  third largest nickel reserves.....there are a couple of enormously rich mining companies their that are looking to put money back into the community in a highly visible way. Finance would not be a problem.
 
Noumea is not one of your rundown Pacific hell-holes like Suva. It is a modern city of well over 130,000 people, it is also the fastest growing city in the Pacific. The New Caledonia GDP per capita is quite a bit higher than New Zealand. This is no Pacific backwater. They have the stadium and the facilities.
 
The problem will be political. How to get FIFA and Bin Hamman on side.In hindsight it is a shame that knobody had the foresight to insist that when Australia went to Asia that a rule could have been made that Oceania teams and Oceania players could play pro football in Australia on the same basis as Australians....it would have saved a lot of political turmoil.
 
The next question would be..."whats in it for the FFA". The original proposal involved quite a bit of French input into the team including providing some players. There was also a suggested TV deal which might have resulted in a-League games shown in Europe through one of the French sport chanels. I'm sure the FFa woould have loved to be part of that action.
 
This story has gone quite cold recently. Its anyones guess whats going to happen next. It most probably won't, but knowbody has come out and said its 100% off. 
 
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How to get Bin Hamman on side?
Hmmm...

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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 The FIFA presidential vote is June 1st, Blatter is seeking re-election for a fourth term and no doubt had discussions when he met with Oceania in January.
Bin Hammam is considered a possible rival. He might come calling for OFC support,and this could be part of a deal.Very theoretical,but possible.

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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Talk of a possible Auckland franchise-bid kicked-off this thread. And someone mentioned Auckland FC. Does anyone know where the story originated?
 
Sounded like it was more than scuttlebutt (not that there's anything wrong with that).
 
 
 
scribbler2011-02-20 17:16:23
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Might be reading too much into this but why would FFA invest in Auckland facilities if it didnt have a chance to get something back in the future

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Construction of the state-of-the-art "Home of Football" academy at Mt Smart Stadium will begin in May, offering substantial accommodation for visiting teams, new administrative offices and top playing facilities.

The cost is estimated at $5 million, and funding will be drawn from OFC reserves, Fifa and possibly community trusts.

The Sunday Star-Times can also reveal that Football Federation Australia is making a significant financial contribution.""



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[QUOTE=hepatitis]Might be reading too much into this but why would FFA invest in Auckland facilities if it didnt have a chance to get something back in the future

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Construction of the state-of-the-art "Home of Football" academy at Mt Smart Stadium will begin in May, offering substantial accommodation for visiting teams, new administrative offices and top playing facilities.

The cost is estimated at $5 million, and funding will be drawn from OFC reserves, Fifa and possibly community trusts.

The Sunday Star-Times can also reveal that Football Federation Australia is making a significant financial contribution.""

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Didn't realise it would happen that quickly!

Was this just OFC reserves or did Sepp Blatter channel some extra funding to OFC  and some via FFA?

...Or did Temaari secure some extra funding from Bin Hammam in his stop-over ..post FIFA disciplinary committee appeal in Zurich for his pet project?? Some funds sent direct to the OFC, some funded through Asian Confederation members Australia, via the FFA...and a perfect opportunity for an OFC team in the A-League to justify the FFA investment.


RedGed2011-02-20 21:51:13

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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There must have been a lot of wheeling and dealing over the Oceania football centre. It has been reported that the French wanted it based in New Caledonia. They offered $5 million cash plus tax free wages for the staff and set up costs. Apparantly Temara was quoted as saying they went for Auckland as it is easier to fly into directly from most of the Pacific.
 
This is great for Auckland and NZ but it shows that there is big interest in football development in Noumea. I have a mate working in NC. He says there is  a lot of desire to do something big football wise in that part of the Pacific. Hence the offer to host the Oceania centre. An Oceania A-League team based in Noumea is being discussed informally in some circles.
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I would love to see an Auckland team added to the A-League (as unlikely as it would seem for the next few seasons at least).
I'd call them the Auckland Makos because:
*Auckland has two harbours and a rich maritime history
*The Maori name for Auckland is Tamaki MAKAUrau (which sounds a bit like Mako-ro)
*I'm pretty certain Makos can be found in NZ waters
*Mako Sharks are quick and deadly
*Team colours would be black/blue or black/white to suit existing Auckland teams
*A shark mascot could be used to get kids involved

Here's an idea for a logo (I'm rubbish with Photoshop etc so it's just done by hand)

whatcha reckon?


By michaelgclarke at 2011-07-10
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edit: the shaded bits in the lettering are meant to be blue, scanner couldnt pick it upmichaelme2011-07-11 13:16:13

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michaelme wrote:
I would love to see an Auckland team added to the A-League (as unlikely as it would seem for the next few seasons at least).
I'd call them the Auckland Makos because:
*Auckland has two harbours and a rich maritime history
*The Maori name for Auckland is Tamaki MAKAUrau (which sounds a bit like Mako-ro)
*I'm pretty certain Makos can be found in NZ waters
*Mako Sharks are quick and deadly
*Team colours would be black/blue or black/white to suit existing Auckland teams
*A shark mascot could be used to get kids involved

Here's an idea for a logo (I'm rubbish with Photoshop etc so it's just done by hand)

whatcha reckon?


By michaelgclarke at 2011-07-10
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edit: the shaded bits in the lettering are meant to be blue, scanner couldnt pick it up
 
What do I reakon? I reakon ill leave you to organise funding and organisation of it seen as you already have the vision. One question... how many kiwi players are you gonna have in the team that are going to be of A League quality (and that arent already signed up by the nix)? And sh*t, who are they?
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Yea hard work I know, and I certainly don't have the million$ required.
Plenty of players in Auckland playing in the ASB Premiership and would need to get a fair few imports in.
I'm not holding m breath for this to happen, and realistically money should be spent on building up our own Football scene before investing more into the Australian league, but it would be cool to have 2 NZ teams in the A-League, and a Welly v Auckland rivalry would be cool (I'd just hope the crowds up here would turn up)

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My Nephew is also named Mako :P
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NHpeter wrote:
My Nephew is also named Mako :P
 
Hes in the team.
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michaelme wrote:
I would love to see an Auckland team added to the A-League (as unlikely as it would seem for the next few seasons at least).
I'd call them the Auckland Makos because:
*Auckland has two harbours and a rich maritime history
*The Maori name for Auckland is Tamaki MAKAUrau (which sounds a bit like Mako-ro)
*I'm pretty certain Makos can be found in NZ waters
*Mako Sharks are quick and deadly
*Team colours would be black/blue or black/white to suit existing Auckland teams
*A shark mascot could be used to get kids involved

Here's an idea for a logo (I'm rubbish with Photoshop etc so it's just done by hand)

whatcha reckon?


By michaelgclarke at 2011-07-10
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edit: the shaded bits in the lettering are meant to be blue, scanner couldnt pick it up

This already shows more organisation than the 2 previous attempts by Auckland to have a team. I think Tasman (Makos rugby team) may have an issue with the name though.
Why not just combine Auckland City and Waitak in to one team. Surely that would be more than good enough

Its no longer a problem.

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CboZ wrote:
NHpeter wrote:
My Nephew is also named Mako :P [/QUOTE]

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Hes in the team.


He's the Captain

One down 10 to go :)

[QUOTE=Toffeeman]
This already shows more organisation than the 2 previous attempts by Auckland to have a team. I think Tasman (Makos rugby team) may have an issue with the name though.
Why not just combine Auckland City and Waitak in to one team. Surely that would be more than good enough


Tasman-Schmashman, its a different sport :p

But yea why not grab them from Waitak and ACFC for a start then hunt for some more?

If Giltrap can't buy the Phoenix why not apply for the Makos? :) I just think a NZ A-League "Derby" would kick arse

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Maybe we should target the ex Phoenix players for the kiwi spine of our team? Shane, Kosta, Glenn and Marco with a bit of mussa thrown in!!!


Auckland will rise once more

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You sure he was born in Aussie. :P But has got a nz passport.

Can I be drinks boy then
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NHpeter wrote:
You sure he was born in Aussie. :P But has got a nz passport.Can I be drinks boy then



Sure! drinks boy/mascot? :)

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Excellent idea Michaelme!!!
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michaelme wrote:
CboZ wrote:
NHpeter wrote:
My Nephew is also named Mako :P [/QUOTE]

 

Hes in the team.


He's the Captain

One down 10 to go :)

[QUOTE=Toffeeman]
This already shows more organisation than the 2 previous attempts by Auckland to have a team. I think Tasman (Makos rugby team) may have an issue with the name though.
Why not just combine Auckland City and Waitak in to one team. Surely that would be more than good enough


Tasman-Schmashman, its a different sport :p

But yea why not grab them from Waitak and ACFC for a start then hunt for some more?

If Giltrap can't buy the Phoenix why not apply for the Makos? :) I just think a NZ A-League "Derby" would kick arse


pretty sure the kingz came into some strife with the sydney basketball team the kings hence the changin to Kingz, I could be wrong...but I suspect that even though it's a different sport the tasman rugy union will have some rights to the Makos name.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Yeah you're right Prof - never mind there was an American basketball team with the same name - typical Aussies! Auckland Orca's - not used by anyone I can think of and illiteration too.

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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Wellington Rugby league team uses Orca's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_rugby_league_team




Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Auckland Jafas

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Kingz - Knights - Jesters.Toffeeman2011-07-13 09:23:08

Its no longer a problem.

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Toffeeman wrote:
Kingz - Knights - Jesters.


Jesters aye? Sponsorship could bring some very tasty pies michaelme2011-07-13 09:59:19

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michaelme wrote:
Toffeeman wrote:
Kingz - Knights - Jesters.


Jesters aye? Sponsorship could bring some very tasty pies
 
Have I missed something? Is there new (serious) talk of an Auckland franchise?
 
Link please...
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scribbler wrote:
michaelme wrote:
Toffeeman wrote:
Kingz - Knights - Jesters.


Jesters aye? Sponsorship could bring some very tasty pies
 
Have I missed something? Is there new (serious) talk of an Auckland franchise?
 
Link please...
you're on the link

Founder

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Feverish wrote:
scribbler wrote:
michaelme wrote:
Toffeeman wrote:
Kingz - Knights - Jesters.


Jesters aye? Sponsorship could bring some very tasty pies
 
Have I missed something? Is there new (serious) talk of an Auckland franchise?
 
Link please...
you're on the link
 
You sure now how to spoil a good day!
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Chris Rattue in the Herald wrote:

Perhaps Eden Park No 2 could be developed as a boutique football ground, perfect for the ITM Cup, the Warriors' NRL matches and a few Phoenix/All Whites games. A situation like this exists at Twickenham, where the Stoop, a 15,000-capacity ground, hosts Harlequins home games.

The people who run Auckland might also reconsider the situation at Western Springs, cross speedway's palm with silver, build a mid-sized football stadium there and get sport humming in this city again.

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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All the Nimbys that arrived 70 years after Speedway was first run at the Springs will probably have a f**king whine and get football cancelled as well.
 
Cocks.
Hard News2011-07-25 15:22:04

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
All the Nimbys that arrived 70 years after Speedway was first run at the Springs will probably have a f**king whine and get football cancelled as well.
 
Cocks.
 
But Nix fans make much less noise than any speedway. 
 
Yes?
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Hard News wrote:
I happen to agree, but if he's a standout in the ASB Premiership - which he is - but couldn't force Ricki to play him in the A-League that says to me there is a huge gap between the two competitions.
 
My responses were to the suggestion that City as they stand now would finish ahead of Perth and/or the Fury.
 
Not at all. There are PLENTY of quality players out there that don't quite make it for one reason or another. From what I've seen of Mulligan he is a quality player (at a-league standard) even though he was never picked for the phoenix. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes. You dont notch up over 170 appearances in quality English professional leagyes for no reason. I'd have Mulligan over Brown
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Nz Seb wrote:
Hard News wrote:
I happen to agree, but if he's a standout in the ASB Premiership - which he is - but couldn't force Ricki to play him in the A-League that says to me there is a huge gap between the two competitions.
 
My responses were to the suggestion that City as they stand now would finish ahead of Perth and/or the Fury.
 
Not at all. There are PLENTY of quality players out there that don't quite make it for one reason or another. From what I've seen of Mulligan he is a quality player (at a-league standard) even though he was never picked for the phoenix. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes. You dont notch up over 170 appearances in quality English professional leagyes for no reason. I'd have Mulligan over Brown
 
The fact that Ricki won't play somebody because they aren't good enough is not and will never be gospel. We all know that Ricki is too damn conservative to take any consistent risks over especially NZ born players. Whether this mentality is pushed onto him by Terry or not I wish I knew.
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Nz Seb wrote:
Hard News wrote:
I happen to agree, but if he's a standout in the ASB Premiership - which he is - but couldn't force Ricki to play him in the A-League that says to me there is a huge gap between the two competitions.
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My responses were to the suggestion that City as they stand now would finish ahead of Perth and/or the Fury.


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Not at all. There are PLENTY of quality players out there that don't quite make it for one reason or another. From what I've seen of Mulligan he is a quality player (at a-league standard) even though he was never picked for the phoenix. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes. You dont notch up over 170 appearances in�quality English professional leagyes for no reason. I'd have Mulligan over Brown


And you don't get chased out of your last 3-4 professional clubs without reason too.
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