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Mark Judan: Family Time

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01 May 08:46 · edited 01 May 08:47 · History

Sorry but that rationale does not work

First of all if we had a coach staying he would have signed some of our best players. Williams has already said he was waiting

Second there are 5 better sides ahead of us on the table

If they all contribute 6, that's a shark load of players.

6 times 6 equals 36

That's assuming there is no one signed from the other four teams of course

The other 5 teams above don't have the threat of expulsion hanging over them, post next season. I imagine they don't have as many players on only 1 year deals, and certainly offer a more secure future at the moment. 

Plus the main players rumoured to be leaving are Williams, Burgess & Kurto. Rudan brought them all to the Nix. And none of them are likely to have come to Wellington, if it weren't for him.

Very different story if he takes someone like Krishna to WU. That's 'poaching'. To a lesser extent the same re Dura, who ominously hasn't now ruled out returning to Australia to play another season.

Have to place some trust in the new coach - Vidmar, Talay or whoever it is - undertaking pretty sound recruitment like Rudan managed. If appointed soon, they will certainly have more time than Rudan had, to get it right.

01 May 08:52

I never said 6.

I would say that if Rudan was to not work anywhere next year, there's a likelihood of some of our players ending up at WU still. If Rudan is at WU, it's likely even more will. 

Difference between us and other top 6 teams is they don't have so many important players sitting with no contracts still and they have a license to be in the league beyond next year. This whole FFA debacle has made us ripe to have our best players picked off. 

01 May 09:06

you can blame the FFA until the cows come home for leaving us ripe to be ripped off

But if you leave the house unlocked

It still takes some thief to come in and to rip you off.


Auckland will rise once more

03 May 12:32

RUDAN OUT

woops did I hear he has already gone months ago?

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03 May 12:56

And that's the end

Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

04 May 03:03

When your ex moves on quicker than you do. 

04 May 06:33

Whodan.

Autocorrect FTW.

E + R + O

04 May 22:51

Sad we will no longer see Rudan Stalking the sidelines.

05 May 01:31

RoriM6 wrote:

Sad we will no longer see Rudan Stalking the sidelines.

I wonder if Ufuk wears a black shirt as well.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

05 May 20:51

RoriM6 wrote:

Sad we will no longer see Rudan Stalking the sidelines.

I wonder if Ufuk wears a black shirt as well.

Potentially. Another thing we will miss is the video analytics from what I understand that was one of Rudan's specialties.

Hopefully Ufuk will prove himself at this level as well

05 May 21:15

RoriM6 wrote:

RoriM6 wrote:

Sad we will no longer see Rudan Stalking the sidelines.

I wonder if Ufuk wears a black shirt as well.

Potentially. Another thing we will miss is the video analytics from what I understand that was one of Rudan's specialties.

Didn't he have external help with that?

06 May 00:54

el grapadura wrote:

RoriM6 wrote:

RoriM6 wrote:

Sad we will no longer see Rudan Stalking the sidelines.

I wonder if Ufuk wears a black shirt as well.

Potentially. Another thing we will miss is the video analytics from what I understand that was one of Rudan's specialties.

Didn't he have external help with that?

I think anyone reviewing that much footage would need help collecting, reviewing, storing etc.

Id imaging there are some USB drives full of indepth stuff out there

06 May 01:29

I thought we have a video analyst on our payroll or did I imagine that?


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06 May 01:48

I thought we have a video analyst on our payroll or did I imagine that?

I think you are right, possibly Mr Haworth who is playing for Mirimar this season.

06 May 02:05

There was a Video analyst guy last year (Carl Edwards) who had done work with Auckland City and a few other things in Auckland. He went back up there not long after the season started.

06 May 06:09

one_eyed_nik wrote:

There was a Video analyst guy last year (Carl Edwards) who had done work with Auckland City and a few other things in Auckland. He went back up there not long after the season started.

Carl now at Houston Dynamo

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07 May 01:34

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


07 May 01:46

scribbler wrote:

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


To be fair, that article is factually inaccurate on so many different things that it's hard to take anything from it seriously. 

07 May 02:22 · edited 07 May 02:22 · History

scribbler wrote:

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


Its a Mark Reason article, why would you even bother opening it?

Valley FC til I die?

07 May 02:30

I find Reason's work borderline readable sometimes, the logic jumps that he makes are often pretty hard to fathom.

07 May 10:35 · edited 07 May 23:43 · History

el grapadura wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


To be fair, that article is factually inaccurate on so many different things that it's hard to take anything from it seriously. 

I read it and it is just all shallow and all over the place like madwoman's custard. Krishna "not meeting marquee criteria"? Rudan having a fallout with Singh, an 18 year old boy??  Talays young Olyroos losing 3-2 to Uzbekistan meaning he's a bad coach???

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

07 May 19:53

Mainland FC wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


To be fair, that article is factually inaccurate on so many different things that it's hard to take anything from it seriously. 

I read it and it is just all shallow and all over the place like madwoman's custard. Krishna "not meeting marquee criteria"? Rudan having a fallout with Singh, an 18 year old boy??  Talays young Olyroos losing 3-2 to Uzbekistan meaning he's a bad coach???

Sounds like someone is desperate to be negative about the nix. Amazing how many imbeciles there are in this country. Especially given its the one pro club. 

07 May 20:37

Mainland FC wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


To be fair, that article is factually inaccurate on so many different things that it's hard to take anything from it seriously. 

I read it and it is just all shallow and all over the place like madwoman's custard. Krishna "not meeting marquee criteria"? Rudan having a fallout with Singh, an 18 year old boy??  Talays young Olyroos losing 3-2 to Uzbekistan meaning he's a bad coach???

Sounds like someone is desperate to be negative about the nix. Amazing how many imbeciles there are in this country. Especially given its the one pro club. 

He's desperate to be negative about anything. Its his schtick. Says a lot about the state of sports journalism

Valley FC til I die?

07 May 22:04

Mainland FC wrote:

 Rudan having a fallout with Singh, an 18 year old boy?? 

Haven't reliable journos stated that Singh was having a few attitude problems?

I know that Anfony Hudson is a conman, but I think he had a point about talented young Kiwi footballers not seeing the point of pushing themselves once they'd reached a certain level.


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This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



07 May 22:45

Interesting he lobs a few hand grenades about Rudan but doesn't write anything to expand on, or substantiate, what he's written. It might all turn out to be true but I take everything he writes with a massive pinch or salt.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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07 May 23:46

Jag wrote:

Interesting he lobs a few hand grenades about Rudan but doesn't write anything to expand on, or substantiate, what he's written. It might all turn out to be true but I take everything he writes with a massive pinch or salt.

You are right and that is my point too - he just writes in vignettes, but strong claims require strong background / depth in the story rather than putting it all down as a fact.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

08 May 04:11

Can we now close this thread and have all Rudan conversations in “where are they now?”. Nix only here.....

08 May 08:33 · edited 08 May 08:34 · History

Mainland FC wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


To be fair, that article is factually inaccurate on so many different things that it's hard to take anything from it seriously. 

I read it and it is just all shallow and all over the place like madwoman's custard. Krishna "not meeting marquee criteria"? Rudan having a fallout with Singh, an 18 year old boy??  Talays young Olyroos losing 3-2 to Uzbekistan meaning he's a bad coach???

I haven't read the article and I suspect Singh is not, but you are naive if you don't think there are some wanker 18 year old males out there. Isn't he  a couple of years older then 18 anyway?


Auckland will rise once more

08 May 09:07

Mainland FC wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


To be fair, that article is factually inaccurate on so many different things that it's hard to take anything from it seriously. 

I read it and it is just all shallow and all over the place like madwoman's custard. Krishna "not meeting marquee criteria"? Rudan having a fallout with Singh, an 18 year old boy??  Talays young Olyroos losing 3-2 to Uzbekistan meaning he's a bad coach???

I haven't read the article and I suspect Singh is not, but you are naive if you don't think there are some wanker 18 year old males out there. Isn't he  a couple of years older then 18 anyway?

except everyone at the club always talks about how Singh is a super level headed and down to earth kid, don't they. Reason opinion pieces are always sharkhouse anyway
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

08 May 09:42

Mainland FC wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Have no idea what this all means, but stay tuned...

"Already the Phoenix have lost their manager Mark Rudan, and there will be more to come out about that messy departure in the coming months. Rudan brought charisma, although he wasn't quite so clean-shaven, quite so saturnine and Mourinho-esque when it wasn't match day.

It's been a hard road for the Aussie and towards the end it was getting harder. When finals football came Rudan lost his faith in talent and surprised many by leaving out Sarpreet Singh with whom his relationship had deteriorated."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/112513815/ma...


To be fair, that article is factually inaccurate on so many different things that it's hard to take anything from it seriously. 

I read it and it is just all shallow and all over the place like madwoman's custard. Krishna "not meeting marquee criteria"? Rudan having a fallout with Singh, an 18 year old boy??  Talays young Olyroos losing 3-2 to Uzbekistan meaning he's a bad coach???

I haven't read the article and I suspect Singh is not, but you are naive if you don't think there are some wanker 18 year old males out there. Isn't he  a couple of years older then 18 anyway?

except everyone at the club always talks about how Singh is a super level headed and down to earth kid, don't they. Reason opinion pieces are always sharkhouse anyway

He was dropped at the start of the season... 

No way is Cacace the quickest in the squad. The whole things reads like pure speculation 

Normo's coming home

08 May 19:43

Just another click bait piece from someone who thinks he is an expert on everything but really shows a complete lack of understanding of most things.Really dont no why people bother reading his rubbish.


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

08 May 20:06

The article  reminded me of that silly fool, Murray Deaker when he used to make his "anti"  comments on Football

09 May 00:14

Can we now close this thread and have all Rudan conversations in “where are they now?”. Nix only here.....

This is literally the Mark Rudan thread. 

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

09 May 01:02

patrick478 wrote:

Can we now close this thread and have all Rudan conversations in “where are they now?”. Nix only here.....

This is literally the Mark Rudan thread. 

Yeah we need this thread for all future achievements on and off the field.

15 May 09:39

Well he's definitely not going to hang around to go to SWS - they've announced their coach. 

15 May 09:43

Perhaps Rudan will become an Assistant Coach at SFC...

15 May 10:43

Son of a Don wrote:

Perhaps Rudan will become an Assistant Coach at SFC...

Not as crazy as it sounds to be fair. I know he has proven himself as a head coach this year but if he means what he says about family being the driving factor then doing the assistant gig at Sydney for a year wouldn't be so bad. I almost hope this is what happens to be honest
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

15 May 13:11 · edited 15 May 13:12 · History

in some ways, but I don't think he could be an assistant tbh. He's a head coach now- the Don, not the consigliere.



15 May 14:57

Son of a Don wrote:

Perhaps Rudan will become an Assistant Coach at SFC...

I think that's the only situation I'd accept for next season. Other than staying away from any HAL club!

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