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WPM R4 vs Auckland FC | Sat 8th Nov | 7:00pm | RoF / SS1

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5 months ago
I'm guessing that owing to a nationwide measles lockdown no NZ derby will take place and all social activity will be postponed indefinitely.
5 months ago
Jessie Merino
I'm guessing that owing to a nationwide measles lockdown no NZ derby will take place and all social activity will be postponed indefinitely.
Typical AFC, causing a measles outbreak because they’re scared of Ifeanyi Eze
5 months ago
Jessie Merino
Doloras
martinb
Halftime show: 

Domey v AucklandPhoenix (in a blue mask) charity boxing or silly sumo at half time. 
Nah; I want to see Ernie the Chicken fistfight Tama the Kōtare

That would be a good intro to Chiefy & Corica running it straight. And for afters, Yellow Fever v the Port en masse. NZ might never be the same again.
LMAO Fever fighting there's a picture you dont think about very often. Drinking yes fighting no

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

5 months ago
If us and AFC win this wkd it'll be a 1st v 2nd clash which should build up more hype going into the game and us being at the top should give some belief to the casuals that we might not be shark again this year.
5 months ago
Not a huge crowd at the cricket yesterday and it was a nice day.  Need the boys to put in a good performance today and get some decent media coverage during the week.  Maybe we could crack 10k.  
5 months ago
Derby week, gotta love it! Bring it on!
5 months ago
With all the current injuries, I believe we have about 50-60 minutes of strong dominate play in us. However, we lack the depth and fitness to sustain a full 95-minute contest against AKL.

Given that, should we consider going all out in the first half like we did against CCM, or push hard in the second half like the first two rounds?
5 months ago · edited 5 months ago · History
I would assume that AFC start with the same mids and forwards as last game.

Now as long as the fastest defender (Loke?), is watching their most rapid forward in Randall like a hawk, I think the high line approach will be remarkably successful as long as they can stop him.

The rest of the forward line in May, Cosgrove and Brook are not rapid at all and pushing balls through the line or over the top is unlikely to be successful with them sprinting forward centrally on goal.

It’s only Randall’s pace they need to be concerned about.

Having such a high line should also mean that AFC’s set pieces become preety much negated. They won’t be hurling many long throws or free kicks into the box for Cosgrove.

So I think Chiefs strategy this season is perfect for a result against  AFC.

Play a high line and go all out on attack in the first half.

 If a goal can be nicked then nothing wrong with reverting to a low block in the second when legs and physicality may be lacking and AFC resort to more speedy forwards in Gillion, Francoise and playing  Randall more central.

Auckland will rise once more

5 months ago
Frankly, I think Randall and Brook are their most effective players right now, and should be watched extra carefully.  Cosgrove does not convince me, while May for all his finesse, has not quite worked up enough "chemistry" with the new recruits that is a key for his very instinctive way of attack. He was actually very good with Mata last season, less so with Rogerson I think (may be wrong).

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

5 months ago
if James is back in the centre of defence he and Cosgrove are going to come together, with one or both getting a red.

Queenslander 3x a year.

5 months ago
theprof
if James is back in the centre of defence he and Cosgrove are going to come together, with one or both getting a red.

Or with Eze slipping in to back up James?? I see Red, I see Red, I see Red!! - Split Enz.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

5 months ago
Hughes said in his post match interview that Sheridan was going to play RWB before the James injury, suggesting he is ahead of Loke in the RB pecking order, which I am glad about. There has been so much Loke hype and I think Sheridan has looked better when played there, he has been so unlucky to have had Payne ahead of him
5 months ago · edited 5 months ago · History
Who played more at DM last season, LKH or Sheridan?

If Conchie is out (and Retre is still out), it could be LKH who slips in beside Rufer, and Hughes over to LCB if James is fit. Gut feel though is yes it would be Sheridan, who goes forward alongside Roofs. You play where your team needs you.

LKH was U20s captain at CB, and looks like centre back is now his long term position??
5 months ago
PAX: 9145
5 months ago
That’s not flash right? Or is the Pax a load of rubbish? 

Auckland will rise once more

5 months ago · edited 5 months ago · History
AucklandPhoenix
That’s not flash right? Or is the Pax a load of rubbish? 
Nope not flash and Pax includes membership cards issued so only counted if they are scanned at the gate on the day. Hence why over the years there has nearly always been a discrepancy in Pax and numbers attending.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

5 months ago
I actually think we should build a 11,000 seat stadium. I know this has been brought up a million times, but a purpose built football stadium of a smaller capacity would be awesome for the atmosphere, and probably increase long-term crowds as a result. 

Scarcity effect.
5 months ago
Ninja
I actually think we should build a 11,000 seat stadium. I know this has been brought up a million times, but a purpose built football stadium of a smaller capacity would be awesome for the atmosphere, and probably increase long-term crowds as a result. 

Scarcity effect.
Agree, but the council rejected the nix plans sadly 
5 months ago
there is a thread for this...
Ninja
I actually think we should build a 11,000 seat stadium. I know this has been brought up a million times, but a purpose built football stadium of a smaller capacity would be awesome for the atmosphere, and probably increase long-term crowds as a result. 

Scarcity effect.
5 months ago
AucklandPhoenix
That’s not flash right? Or is the Pax a load of rubbish? 

Not flash at all. Absolutely honking even. Prob 500 of them are Auckland fans. Plus a bunch of freebies and stadium members that won’t show up. Hope it starts to ramp up. 
5 months ago
Is there a YF March on Saturday?
5 months ago
Does anyone know there is a game on Saturday?

Preety low key here as well. 

Auckland will rise once more

5 months ago
nixiefan
Is there a YF March on Saturday?
Not like the last Derby as most of the Flags and the YF Banner will already be at the ground along with some of the YF supporting the Womans team.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

5 months ago · edited 5 months ago · History
As Piney said the other day, the NZ Derby badly needs a Nix victory to give it a shot in the arm. 

AFC win again and it risks just being another ALM game, at least for casual Nix fans when hosted at the ROF.
5 months ago · edited 5 months ago · History
Forecast is for sun and cloud for the match. Perhaps people are waiting to see what the weather is like on the day. Trains will be running too. 

In the interviews done at the airport yesterday, they said they'd out out and about. I haven't seen any details posted.  
5 months ago · edited 5 months ago · History
Well there are two games in Wellington this year so we had better hope that game one is well attended and cracks 20k

Auckland will rise once more

5 months ago
Not necessarily. 

If by the 3rd derby game at the ROF (March next year?), both teams are in the finals mix, and head to head it is 1-1, that ROF crowd could be bigger than this Saturday.
5 months ago
With some of the attendances coming out of Aussie really dont have any issue if the crowd is less than 20k. Apart from the Warriors and the All Blacks there arnt many sports teams  that regularly attract crowds of 20k. Yet for some reason us football fans seem to think what really are just 2 club teams should be doing it. 

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

5 months ago
The odds on that are very long.

So it will be necessary 
coochiee
Not necessarily. 

If by the 3rd derby game at the ROF (March next year?), both teams are in the finals mix, and head to head it is 1-1, that ROF crowd could be bigger than this Saturday.

Auckland will rise once more

5 months ago
ballane
With some of the attendances coming out of Aussie really dont have any issue if the crowd is less than 20k. Apart from the Warriors and the All Blacks there arnt many sports teams  that regularly attract crowds of 20k. Yet for some reason us football fans seem to think what really are just 2 club teams should be doing it. 

Because it's the biggest football game in the country? That's a pretty good reason to break 20k.
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AucklandPhoenix
The odds on that are very long.

So it will be necessary 
coochiee
Not necessarily. 

If by the 3rd derby game at the ROF (March next year?), both teams are in the finals mix, and head to head it is 1-1, that ROF crowd could be bigger than this Saturday.

Is a long way to go, but I think the chances are better than average that the Nix will be a more enticing watch next March, than they were finishing last season.

And that's a big factor in limiting the crowd this Saturday. How dire the Nix were season 24/25, incl the most recent derby result, that 6-1 shellacking.

Also if the Nix are playing well, they often get their biggest crowds Feb-March in the late summer twilight. By then the World Cup will also be very much looming on the horizon, and football will be more topical. Still the Nix will need to be playing well, in finals contention and be seen as having a genuine chance to beat the Estonians.
5 months ago · edited 5 months ago · History
Sheridan has really impressed me but so has Loke, so interesting call at RWB if James is back


Unless we go for Hughes/James/Sheridan and sit LKH

a.haak

5 months ago
Isn't Conchie under an injury cloud? If he's ruled out expect Sheridan or even LKH to go up alongside Rufer.

Chiefy does seem to rate Cassidy. But a derby is a massive occasion for a run on debut??
5 months ago
imanixsupporter
there is a thread for this...
Ninja
I actually think we should build a 11,000 seat stadium. I know this has been brought up a million times, but a purpose built football stadium of a smaller capacity would be awesome for the atmosphere, and probably increase long-term crowds as a result. 

Scarcity effect.

Which is why I said "I know it's been brought up a million times" ... :)

Still if we as a fan group keep banging on the door about it, maybe one day it will happen.
5 months ago
ballane
With some of the attendances coming out of Aussie really dont have any issue if the crowd is less than 20k. Apart from the Warriors and the All Blacks there arnt many sports teams  that regularly attract crowds of 20k. Yet for some reason us football fans seem to think what really are just 2 club teams should be doing it. 

Tend to agree. We obsess way too much about crowds. Yes it would be nice to sell out our stadium, but the reality is we're a small city. 

Consistent crowds of 8k are good for us.

My point on the smaller stadium is more about how awesome the atmosphere would be if we were pulling 8-11k in a small rectangular stadium and selling out most games or getting close to it.
5 months ago
Fire Up Derby Week!
Like a Phoenix from the Ashes and Wish upon a Falling Star and maybe we get bacon and a win too!
(Nb I had a public holiday yesterday. )
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5 months ago · edited 5 months ago · History
Ninja
ballane
With some of the attendances coming out of Aussie really dont have any issue if the crowd is less than 20k. Apart from the Warriors and the All Blacks there arnt many sports teams  that regularly attract crowds of 20k. Yet for some reason us football fans seem to think what really are just 2 club teams should be doing it. 

Tend to agree. We obsess way too much about crowds. Yes it would be nice to sell out our stadium, but the reality is we're a small city. 

Consistent crowds of 8k are good for us.

My point on the smaller stadium is more about how awesome the atmosphere would be if we were pulling 8-11k in a small rectangular stadium and selling out most games or getting close to it.
Man we like to move the goalposts. If you're happy about a crowd not meeting 20k for one of the biggest games of the season but on another thread shooting down AFC for getting 11k (in a town where the only attended sport is the one that actually needs a second NZ team in the competition IMO) it shows the state the Nix is in. 

AFC Wins a trophy first (excuses), Nix gets worse crowds (excuses), Nix not making OFC Pro League (excuses), what's the excuse gonna be when AFC reserves finish higher than the WeeNix in their first season too?