Alternative Wellington Stadium

Yakcall wrote:
Na, they taking the stands and putting them at Fraser Park, since they basically own that now

austin111 wrote:

 Yakcall wrote:
Na, they taking the stands and putting them at Fraser Park, since they basically own that now

Seems to be lots of rumours about this. Good idea IMO. Considering the size of the Nix crowds you would probably only need the main stand from Apollo. I think it holds around 5000??? Then a bit of scaffolding stands would get you up to 7000. 
This would need Resource consent???? So maybe by 2030+ it could open.
 Just do it.
Dont know Fraser park region at all.
What would be the pluses and minus's?

WanderingSheep wrote:

 austin111 wrote:

 Yakcall wrote:
Na, they taking the stands and putting them at Fraser Park, since they basically own that now

Seems to be lots of rumours about this. Good idea IMO. Considering the size of the Nix crowds you would probably only need the main stand from Apollo. I think it holds around 5000??? Then a bit of scaffolding stands would get you up to 7000. 
This would need Resource consent???? So maybe by 2030+ it could open.
 Just do it.
Dont know Fraser park region at all.
What would be the pluses and minus's?

Personally, I think you’d see a significant drop off from the Kapiti line based fans. Having to get into WLG to get out again is a nonsense. Would certainly reduce the number of games I’d be able to attend. And despite my obvious bias for JC, the same would be said for HL fans if this was to happen. Expecting folk to drive is lunacy. 

ballane wrote:
It is what it is dont think it matters where they put it they are going to piss some people off. Yes they might get some people from Kapiti stop coming but they are also just as likely to pick up people from the Hutt and further North who will know start going. People will make the effort no matter where its put. I think plenty of people grumble about it but if they are a FAN they will make the effort. As for parking  way better at Fraser Park than Porirua and there is more than just the one road to try and get away from the stadium.
Also LMAO off at people saying those from town may have to travel out there. What do you think everyone from the Hutt and Kapiti has been doing since 2007 yet it to hard for those from town to make the effort.

theprof wrote:
facilities at Fraser park would need to be seriously upgraded, I understand the Nix have taken over the running of the "club room" style cafe etc, but there's certainly not enough lighting, changing facilities for the Aleague.
driving there would be annoying, training with the walk from the station woulld be horrid especially if its wet.

observerfromuh wrote:

 theprof wrote:
facilities at Fraser park would need to be seriously upgraded, I understand the Nix have taken over the running of the "club room" style cafe etc, but there's certainly not enough lighting, changing facilities for the Aleague.
driving there would be annoying, training with the walk from the station woulld be horrid especially if its wet.

I agree with everything about FP especially the station walk when wet part.

Long term vision for the club should not be FP.

Yakcall wrote:
Turns out nothing will likely happen soon anyway as apparently can't get the seats from Christchurch. So will have to come up with a new plan.

ballane wrote:
That wouldnt be a good way to try and build the fan base up again by taking another game away. Our last home game in Wellington was the 14th of March by the time they play MacArthur thats 5 games away with the next home game probably sometime in October. You cant really expect anyone other than us Phoenix tragics to turn up if your going to keep the team away for so long.

Simon B wrote:

 ballane wrote:
That wouldnt be a good way to try and build the fan base up again by taking another game away. Our last home game in Wellington was the 14th of March by the time they play MacArthur thats 5 games away with the next home game probably sometime in October. You cant really expect anyone other than us Phoenix tragics to turn up if your going to keep the team away for so long.

Fair point, but who said it had to be the men? I’d love to see the Wāhinix play a home away from home game next season, and with so many of the players having Christchurch roots that seems the place to do it.

Maybe a Christchurch double header?

reubee wrote:
I wonder how feasible it is to take those temporary seats being used at Porirua this weekend, store them in the basement of HnryStadium and place them along one sideline and behind one goal during the regular season.  

2ndBest wrote:
Pretty fortunate that it was a nice day. Good range of activities and food trucks but it was all uncovered so any rain and it wouldn't have been a great experience for most. Lines were pretty long too.  

It took us nearly an hour to get out of the upper carpark after the game.

For a one off it was great, but can't see it being workable long term. 

• Stadium Footprint: A standard rectangular pitch plus seating for 10k people generally covers roughly 35,000 \(m^{2}\).
• Waitangi Park Total Area: Roughly 65,000 \(m^{2}\).
• The Sacrifice: Building a stadium here would likely mean removing the wetlands, skate park, playground, and the large public lawns currently used for recreation. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

1. Noise & Zoning: Waitangi Park is directly adjacent to high-density residential areas in Te Aro and Oriental Bay. Standard stadium noise levels would likely breach current noise restrictions.
2. Existing Infrastructure: The park contains an expensive, award-winning water treatment wetland designed to filter storm water from the Waitangi Stream. Destroying this would be a major environmental and financial setback.
3. Heritage & Public Use: The park was developed to be a "world-class urban park" and is protected as a significant public amenity on the waterfront. [1, 3, 5]

• Park Total Area: 270,000 \(m^{2}\) (27 hectares).
• Stadium Footprint: An 8,000–10,000 seat stadium requires roughly 30,000–40,000 \(m^{2}\).
• Feasibility: You could fit the stadium and still retain a significant portion of the existing park’s 11 football fields, 5 rugby fields, and other facilities. [1, 2, 3, 4]

• Existing Capacity: The current southern stand seats about 1,200 people, with additional capacity from pavilion bleachers (288) and embankments.
• Historical Proposals: Lower Hutt has previously considered building a 10,000–12,000 seat stadium. While the Petone Recreation Ground was a major focus, Fraser Park remains one of the few viable alternate sites due to its sheer scale.
• Wellington Phoenix Connection: As of February 2025, the Wellington Phoenix has taken over the management of the park's Ricoh Sports Centre, further cementing the site as a professional sporting hub. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

1. Transport: Unlike Waitangi Park, which is in the city centre, Fraser Park is in Taitā. While close to the Taitā train station, it would require significant traffic management for 10,000 visitors.
2. Infrastructure Sunk Costs: The Hutt City Council recently invested $12.5 million into the "Sportsville" redevelopment. A major stadium might require repurposing some of these brand-new multi-use facilities. [1, 2, 3, 4]

2ndBest wrote:
Be interested to hear from anyone in the temp stands. They had a very low angle so those behind the goal probably couldn't see much. 

coochiee wrote:
All the rumours and intel seems to be, that it is Fraser Park that will be redeveloped first for Wahinix games and maybe later to host the mens team.

 

observerfromuh wrote:

 coochiee wrote:
All the rumours and intel seems to be, that it is Fraser Park that will be redeveloped first for Wahinix games and maybe later to host the mens team.

 

I've said it before but FP would be horrible (probably a death bed) for the men's team/might work for the Wahinix. 

wilbaker wrote:
If Fraser park became the new home for the Nix I would be curious if it would put off a lot of casuals based in Wellington going to games with the extended travel time. And if the Lower/Upper Hutt based casual fans would now go to more games maybe covering that loss or if there would be less fans going to games.

observerfromuh wrote:
Agreed. Ballane try convincing fans to make the trip in the rain and dark out to FP, it won't work at all. theprof is right, by the time HCC has to put money into getting it up to standard they'll be amalgamated and one council so you're probably best to build a 10k rectangle seater at Waitangi Park.

They should have got a commitment for a 10k rectangular stadium the second the Nix got launched.