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5 days ago

Yakcall wrote:
Na, they taking the stands and putting them at Fraser Park, since they basically own that now

Seems to be lots of rumours about this. Good idea IMO. Considering the size of the Nix crowds you would probably only need the main stand from Apollo. I think it holds around 5000??? Then a bit of scaffolding stands would get you up to 7000.
This would need Resource consent???? So maybe by 2030+ it could open.
Just do it.
Dont know Fraser park region at all.
What would be the pluses and minus's?

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5 days ago

austin111 wrote:
Yakcall wrote:
Na, they taking the stands and putting them at Fraser Park, since they basically own that now
Seems to be lots of rumours about this. Good idea IMO. Considering the size of the Nix crowds you would probably only need the main stand from Apollo. I think it holds around 5000??? Then a bit of scaffolding stands would get you up to 7000.
This would need Resource consent???? So maybe by 2030+ it could open.
Just do it.
Dont know Fraser park region at all.
What would be the pluses and minus's?

Personally, I think you’d see a significant drop off from the Kapiti line based fans. Having to get into WLG to get out again is a nonsense. Would certainly reduce the number of games I’d be able to attend. And despite my obvious bias for JC, the same would be said for HL fans if this was to happen. Expecting folk to drive is lunacy.

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4 days ago

WanderingSheep wrote:
austin111 wrote:
Yakcall wrote:
Na, they taking the stands and putting them at Fraser Park, since they basically own that now
Seems to be lots of rumours about this. Good idea IMO. Considering the size of the Nix crowds you would probably only need the main stand from Apollo. I think it holds around 5000??? Then a bit of scaffolding stands would get you up to 7000.
This would need Resource consent???? So maybe by 2030+ it could open.
Just do it.
Dont know Fraser park region at all.
What would be the pluses and minus's?
Personally, I think you’d see a significant drop off from the Kapiti line based fans. Having to get into WLG to get out again is a nonsense. Would certainly reduce the number of games I’d be able to attend. And despite my obvious bias for JC, the same would be said for HL fans if this was to happen. Expecting folk to drive is lunacy.

Personally sending the mens team to JC or FP would be a death warrant for the club.

I'll focus on FP as that's the talk. The parking at FP is bad and at least a 10 minute walk to a train and the facilities as they are probably aren't A-League/AFC standard.

You might as well upgrade CIS, open a few bars there and make it a 10,000 seater. It is also literally a 2 min walk from Heretaunga Station.

With JC/FP you also alienate either the Hutt or Kapiti/Porirua fanbase. You also except people from town to travel out and this will be hard to motivate fans if say were in 8th or 9th after 8 or 9 games.

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4 days ago

Unfortunately there is just no where else to go... sorta has to be FP, JC or NZCIS - there is no other feasible land in Wellington. If only the people in charge of the current River link project weren't so short sighted and looked at extending the HV line up the river, FP would look a lot more appealing.

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It is what it is dont think it matters where they put it they are going to piss some people off. Yes they might get some people from Kapiti stop coming but they are also just as likely to pick up people from the Hutt and further North who will know start going. People will make the effort no matter where its put. I think plenty of people grumble about it but if they are a FAN they will make the effort. As for parking way better at Fraser Park than Porirua and there is more than just the one road to try and get away from the stadium.
Also LMAO off at people saying those from town may have to travel out there. What do you think everyone from the Hutt and Kapiti has been doing since 2007 yet it to hard for those from town to make the effort.

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4 days ago

ballane wrote:
It is what it is dont think it matters where they put it they are going to piss some people off. Yes they might get some people from Kapiti stop coming but they are also just as likely to pick up people from the Hutt and further North who will know start going. People will make the effort no matter where its put. I think plenty of people grumble about it but if they are a FAN they will make the effort. As for parking way better at Fraser Park than Porirua and there is more than just the one road to try and get away from the stadium.
Also LMAO off at people saying those from town may have to travel out there. What do you think everyone from the Hutt and Kapiti has been doing since 2007 yet it to hard for those from town to make the effort.

The town yarn did make me chuckle. Some people travel from Palmy for games... 20 minutes down SH2 is not bad

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4 days ago

facilities at Fraser park would need to be seriously upgraded, I understand the Nix have taken over the running of the "club room" style cafe etc, but there's certainly not enough lighting, changing facilities for the Aleague.
driving there would be annoying, training with the walk from the station woulld be horrid especially if its wet.

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4 days ago

I think first part is only moving Wāhinix there instead of Porirua, but still it'll need some development too.

I'm an optimistic pessimist.

I'm positive things will go wrong.

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4 days ago

theprof wrote:
facilities at Fraser park would need to be seriously upgraded, I understand the Nix have taken over the running of the "club room" style cafe etc, but there's certainly not enough lighting, changing facilities for the Aleague.
driving there would be annoying, training with the walk from the station woulld be horrid especially if its wet.

I agree with everything about FP especially the station walk when wet part.

Long term vision for the club should not be FP.

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4 days ago

Turns out nothing will likely happen soon anyway as apparently can't get the seats from Christchurch. So will have to come up with a new plan.

I'm an optimistic pessimist.

I'm positive things will go wrong.

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4 days ago

observerfromuh wrote:
theprof wrote:
facilities at Fraser park would need to be seriously upgraded, I understand the Nix have taken over the running of the "club room" style cafe etc, but there's certainly not enough lighting, changing facilities for the Aleague.
driving there would be annoying, training with the walk from the station woulld be horrid especially if its wet.
I agree with everything about FP especially the station walk when wet part.

Long term vision for the club should not be FP.

If this country wasn’t so short sighted and car obsessed, instead of putting a bloody road through Granada, they would’ve be looking to put the railway that was always there on paper. That could make some serious connectivity between the Hutt and ptown work. Obviously I also agree with the point about the river link, which fits nicely in my first point too.

FWIW, despite my bias for ptown, I know it’s not actually a viable option for the men, not without serious investment from nix, council and possibly central govt. Both FP and JC would also split the fanbase. I would however, be sad to see the women leave JC.

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4 days ago

Yakcall wrote:
Turns out nothing will likely happen soon anyway as apparently can't get the seats from Christchurch. So will have to come up with a new plan.

Maybe it should be move Mohammed to the Mountain not vice versea.
Currently NZ's strongest regional economy, a much faster growing population than Welly, a brand new shiny rectangular stadium.

Tongue firmly in cheek.

Though wouldn't surprise if the Nix look to take two games to ChCh next season. Like they previously took two games a season to Auckland.

They might get close to 20K for a November/December match given the Te Kaha novelty factor, plus some football attention off the back of the World Cup.
12K-15K for a 2nd match February 2027.

Nix drew 19K to Lancaster Park in December 2010 (Sigmund's late header), post the South Africa World Cup.

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4 days ago

That wouldnt be a good way to try and build the fan base up again by taking another game away. Our last home game in Wellington was the 14th of March by the time they play MacArthur thats 5 games away with the next home game probably sometime in October. You cant really expect anyone other than us Phoenix tragics to turn up if your going to keep the team away for so long.

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I was at that Lancaster Park game, great memories. Young Rojas came on as a sub and was completely unplayable, and of course the late Sigmund winner.

Bad luck that the Nix won't get to the new stadium until the really potent early novelty factor will be gone. I was at a preseason Nix game at the brand new Forsyth Barr, which drew 14k fans. By the time the Nix got there for a regular season game maybe a year later they got 2k. We would have sold out Te Kaha if we took a game there in two weeks from now, but wouldnt be surprised to see us get less than 15k by the time we get there.

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3 days ago · edited 3 days ago · History

If the AWs do well at the World Cup you can expect some goodwill around football in NZ to flow into early season A League crowds.

The first Nix game at Te Kaha will draw football fans from all over the Sth Island, even some from Welly. Yes less so the sporting casuals who will mostly go to a rugby game at the new ground

From memory that regular season ALM game at Forsyth Barr was in the uni holidays. Dunners is dead without the scarfies in town. Some even call Otago mostly empty. Not much of a comparison

Also remember the Nix will only host one derby match next season not two, so exploring ideas how they can increase gate revenue

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3 days ago

ballane wrote:
That wouldnt be a good way to try and build the fan base up again by taking another game away. Our last home game in Wellington was the 14th of March by the time they play MacArthur thats 5 games away with the next home game probably sometime in October. You cant really expect anyone other than us Phoenix tragics to turn up if your going to keep the team away for so long.

Fair point, but who said it had to be the men? I’d love to see the Wāhinix play a home away from home game next season, and with so many of the players having Christchurch roots that seems the place to do it.

Maybe a Christchurch double header?

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Simon B wrote:
ballane wrote:
That wouldnt be a good way to try and build the fan base up again by taking another game away. Our last home game in Wellington was the 14th of March by the time they play MacArthur thats 5 games away with the next home game probably sometime in October. You cant really expect anyone other than us Phoenix tragics to turn up if your going to keep the team away for so long.
Fair point, but who said it had to be the men? I’d love to see the Wāhinix play a home away from home game next season, and with so many of the players having Christchurch roots that seems the place to do it.

Maybe a Christchurch double header?

I have mentioned to others maybe a double header might be a good thing to do there.

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