Wellington Phoenix Men

April 18th - D-Day

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terminator_x wrote:
To�think that this guy�went on Close Up purporting to be a journalist. I feel like ringing them and telling them they got scammed.


No, just set up a website, nippertfrauds.net.

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ballane wrote:
As much as i hate to admit it there is also some very deserved anti feeling out there.Have spoken to a number of people who have the feeling that its about time some karma came home.
 
Karma? Whatever Terry's done in the past surely he's earned some credit from what he's done for Wellington and New Zealand through the Phoenix. His critics seemed determined to ignore this.

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Well, some people think the Nix crashing - and thereby causing untold damage to football in New Zealand and misery for us fans - would be worth it to "get Terry". That's how much they hate him.

On the lighter side, track Ali Syed's private jet! Last seen near notorious tax haven Jersey.

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Phoenixlova wrote:
Doloras wrote:
Phoenixlova wrote:
Not only that, you would be more than happy to see the phoenix fall.


I think that's unfair. Mattnipp* doesn't care if the Nix lives or dies, he just wants Terry to suffer. If we were sold to someone else he'd totally lose interest. Unless he's so aggrieved by my personal abuse that now he has determined that the Nix should die, which would be a back-handed compliment.


* I hope this new nickname catches on.
 
i dont think it is unfair. I know he wants the phoenix to fall, and that is not speculation. whether or not he wants them to fall because of Terry or not is irrelevant.
And yes you may think that Matt Nipp has balls posting on this forum, but i wouldnt be surprised if the only reason he did post on here is so we would all think exactly that. its just a way for him to slightly win some respect from us for his comments


So, as you seem to be in possesion of some facts we aren't aware of, why not tell us all why Nippert is so hell bent on the Phoenix going tits up?

Nippert doesn't give a rat's arse whether the Phoenix lives or dies. As Doloras says, it's Terry Serepisos he's after. The bottom line is that Nippert is not going to be responsible for the Phoenix dying and/or Terry going bankrupt. It's the joy he's apprently taking in seeing Terry wriggling on the hook that bothers me.
Jag2011-03-09 17:39:31

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Not to be a pain, but anyone actually know the court time?
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terminator_x wrote:
ballane wrote:
As much as i hate to admit it there is also some very deserved anti feeling out there.Have spoken to a number of people who have the feeling that its about time some karma came home.
 
Karma? Whatever Terry's done in the past surely he's earned some credit from what he's done for Wellington and New Zealand through the Phoenix. His critics seemed determined to ignore this.


Or, alternatively, they believe that his recent 'good deeds' do not outweigh his past conduct.

Just putting it out there.
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Stripes wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
ballane wrote:
As much as i hate to admit it there is also some very deserved anti feeling out there.Have spoken to a number of people who have the feeling that its about time some karma came home.
 
Karma? Whatever Terry's done in the past surely he's earned some credit from what he's done for Wellington and New Zealand through the Phoenix. His critics seemed determined to ignore this.


Or, alternatively, they believe that his recent 'good deeds' do not outweigh his past conduct.

Just putting it out there.


Great, so are you just hypothesizing about "his past conduct" or do you want to do what his critics always seem very reluctant to do and detail exactly what he has done that is so awful.

There always seems to be more rumour and innuendo about Terry's past than actual fact.

Anyone?


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terminator_x wrote:
Great, so are you just hypothesizing about "his past conduct" or do you want to do what his critics always seem very reluctant to do and detail exactly what he has done that is so awful.

There always seems to be more rumour and inneundo about Terry's past than actual fact.

Anyone?




^ This. There seems to be a lot of "ooh, that Terry Serepisos is a dodgy character. He's done some naughty things.." stuff bandied about but I have never seen or heard any actual details. Is this the "he can't have got where he is without cutting a few corners" syndrome.

Loads of speculation and gossip but nothing to back it up?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
Great, so are you just hypothesizing about "his past conduct" or do you want to do what his critics always seem very reluctant to do and detail exactly what he has done that is so awful.

There always seems to be more rumour and inneundo about Terry's past than actual fact.

Anyone?




^ This. There seems to be a lot of "ooh, that Terry Serepisos is a dodgy character. He's done some naughty things.." stuff bandied about but I have never seen or heard any actual details. Is this the "he can't have got where he is without cutting a few corners" syndrome.

Loads of speculation and gossip but nothing to back it up?
very good points by both. terminator you love stealing the words right out of my mouth don't you? yes he is known to pay bills late but does anybody on here have any evidence of anything more substantial?
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Phoenixlova wrote:
Jag wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
Great, so are you just hypothesizing about "his past conduct" or do you want to do what his critics always seem very reluctant to do and detail exactly what he has done that is so awful.There always seems to be more rumour and inneundo about Terry's past than actual fact.Anyone?
^ This. There seems to be a lot of "ooh, that Terry Serepisos is a dodgy character. He's done some naughty things.." stuff bandied about but I have never seen or heard any actual details. Is this the "he can't have got where he is without cutting a few corners" syndrome.Loads of speculation and gossip but nothing to back it up?


very good points by both. terminator you love stealing the words right out of my mouth don't you? yes he is known to pay bills late but does anybody on here have any evidence of anything more substantial?


The only thing I can think of is hearing about how he is apparently a "sleaze" and hits on everyone (even the boys) at parties and a like. The source for this is people hearing from other people of course, but my mates mum once met him at one of these parties and he's just a really friendly guy when a tad intoxicated. I dunno, maybe people like to think they're being hit on by a millionaire.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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I'm not sure if you'll get anyone actually telling you about Terry. But anyone who was closely involved in the Wellington bar/club scene in the early 1990s will probably know exactly what some people are alluding to.
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terminator_x wrote:
Stripes wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
ballane wrote:
As much as i hate to admit it there is also some very deserved anti feeling out there.Have spoken to a number of people who have the feeling that its about time some karma came home.
 
Karma? Whatever Terry's done in the past surely he's earned some credit from what he's done for Wellington and New Zealand through the Phoenix. His critics seemed determined to ignore this.


Or, alternatively, they believe that his recent 'good deeds' do not outweigh his past conduct.

Just putting it out there.


Great, so are you just hypothesizing about "his past conduct" or do you want to do what his critics always seem very reluctant to do and detail exactly what he has done that is so awful.


Neither.  To make this perfectly clear:

1. The critics don't have to be determined to ignore what Serepisos has done lately to remain opposed to him.

2. The critics might believe that a decent sample of the stories they've heard are true, but avoid a libel suit by simply stating that "they've heard ominous things about Serepisos' past".  (Or quoting Balzac, or any other statement that makes their sentiments clear without committing them to any concrete claim.)

3.  Personally, I have no idea whether Serepisos has broken the law of the land, and finding out that he had wouldn't change my opinion of him.
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You're right HN, this is not the place to have that type of discussion but it might explain some of the perceived venom behind some of the forces at work to bring Terry down. I think its natural for people to kick people when they're down, especially if that person is someone you have a grudge about.
 
One thing about having a past is that there is always someone who knows about it. I'm hoping that's not true in my case
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Are we talking about critics on this forum or anti-Terrys from any non-football dealings?

I'd imagine any external anti-Terrys couldn't give a Rattus rattus' anus about the Nix. Would hope that any knockers on this forum also take into account football in NZ without the Phoenix.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Hard News wrote:
Everyone knows allegedly but we're not having that discussion here.


Absolutely. It's not my intention to turn this into a rumours about Terry thread. Suffice to say there always seems to be way more rumours than actual facts.

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Hard News wrote:
Everyone knows allegedly but we're not having that discussion here.


Too right.
Putting YF and this site potentially at legal odds with our club's owner is a whole world of silly.
The courts,various other govt bodies, financial institutions, vigilante journos are doing a fine enough job of putting the boot in, extracting revenge,enacting karma, getting payment etc etc.. without us helping contribute to Terry's plight and potentially the demise of the Nix.

RedGed2011-03-09 21:05:38

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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So can we then move the discussion along please.
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terminator_x wrote:
ballane wrote:
As much as i hate to admit it there is also some very deserved anti feeling out there.Have spoken to a number of people who have the feeling that its about time some karma came home.
 
Karma? Whatever Terry's done in the past surely he's earned some credit from what he's done for Wellington and New Zealand through the Phoenix. His critics seemed determined to ignore this.
Sorry no given i have some friends who have been burnt by Terry four seasons of football support dosnt fix some of those bridges.There are people out there who will have nothing to do with the Phoenix because of some of this stuff.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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ballane wrote:
Sorry no given i have some friends who have been burnt by Terry four seasons of football support dosnt fix some of those bridges.There are people out there who will have nothing to do with the Phoenix because of some of this stuff.

sorry don't mean to be nosey. But how did he burn them?
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All the best with tomorrow in court Terry.
Hopefully plan B flys, or plan C and D will.
Selfishly, I just want to see the Wellington Phoenix survive and flourish.
Oh, and a Retro Ricki 11.

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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Phoenixlova wrote:
ballane wrote:
Sorry no given i have some friends who have been burnt by Terry four seasons of football support dosnt fix some of those bridges.There are people out there who will have nothing to do with the Phoenix because of some of this stuff.

sorry don't mean to be nosey. But how did he burn them?
In  the building game.Just leave it at that at the end of the day im bloody hoping his plan b,c,d,or e comes off as life without the Phoenix becomes a lot duller. My support for them dosnt make me popular but what the hell the last four years have been a blast  and i for one am hoping for many more.
ballane2011-03-09 21:33:20

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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Azevo wrote:
The only thing I can think of is hearing about how he is apparently a "sleaze" and hits on everyone (even the boys) at parties and a like.


Well, he is Greek. They invented it.

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Phoenixlova wrote:
ballane wrote:
Sorry no given i have some friends who have been burnt by Terry four seasons of football support dosnt fix some of those bridges.There are people out there who will have nothing to do with the Phoenix because of some of this stuff.

sorry don't mean to be nosey. But how did he burn them?

Business. Its common knowledge theres been things happening for years, not really gona go into it but you can guess how cut throat property investment and sh*t can be...

Theres been people wanting to see him fail long before he ever contemplated the Phoenix. But i dont give a f**k about that, business is business and its got nothing to do with me. Hes done a lot of good through the Nix and through other outlets as well like charities etc...
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ballane wrote:
Phoenixlova wrote:
ballane wrote:
Sorry no given i have some friends who have been burnt by Terry four seasons of football support dosnt fix some of those bridges.There are people out there who will have nothing to do with the Phoenix because of some of this stuff.

sorry don't mean to be nosey. But how did he burn them?
In  the building game.Just leave it at that at the end of the day im bloody hoping his plan b,c,d,or e comes off as life without the Phoenix becomes a lot duller. My support for them dosnt make me popular but what the hell the last four years have been a blast  and i for one am hoping for many more.

True sorry if i treaded personal territory! And everybody really shouldnt have much need to worry. it is all sounding rather doomey. but if we have learnt anything over these recent times it is that whatever problem arises, Terry will survive. the phoenix's future is a bright one i feel. i guess we will all find out sooner rather than later. Our best wishes are with him and the club tommorrow.
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Folks I specifically asked not go in to these areas.

I have a banstick and I'm not afraid to make 2ndBest use it.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Err, isn't he a lover and not a fighter?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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The ban stick gets waved over this after some of the other crap that gets posted on here at times .FK me why dont we just kiss every ones butts.

The fans forum as long as you dont hurt the meal ticket. Welcome the banstick means i cant post then.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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Renegade fighter?

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ballane wrote:
FK me why dont we just kiss every ones butts.


The swingers' party is in the other thread, fella.

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Really Steve?

There are legal implications for us and we do this out of love so have no urge to have our lives f**ked by what people post.  Call Matt he'll give you the front page of the NBR.

Also, you don't think that at this current time when there is a chance of the club dying in 24 hours that perhaps we could stop the drama queen and band together for one last time?
Hard News2011-03-09 22:02:24

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ballane wrote:
The ban stick gets waved over this after some of the other crap that gets posted on here at times .FK me why dont we just kiss every ones butts.

The fans forum as long as you dont hurt the meal ticket. Welcome the banstick means i cant post then.


Bad time of the month? 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Hard News wrote:
<snip>Also, you don't think that at this current time when there is a chance of the club dying in 24 hours that perhaps we could stop the drama queen and band together for one last time?


So. Much. This.  
Jag2011-03-09 22:05:01

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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group hug
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car keys?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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I was really hoping when I read all this I had been suffering from intense jetlag and that this was some weird YF Paralllel universe. Bugger.

Good luck Terry, hoping and wishing for a good outcome for the Phoenix tomorrow. We'll be there in spirit.
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Junior82 wrote:
Err, isn't he a lover and not a fighter?


Only if you're a bridesmaid.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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or irish

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