Wellington Phoenix Men

Black out the Heart

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Junior82 wrote:
Tegal wrote:
You're welcome.
 
Tell me why it isn't then? Because I really don't understand. Especially not to the point that it is being made such a big deal of.
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Hard News wrote:
Honestly, I think it's a spectacularly underthought idea.

We play in Yellow with some black, not black. Are people going to change what has been lucky because someone decrees we should wear black?  You've got a fan base with enough Yellow to cover the surface of Wellington so you tell them to wear a different colour?  Bizarre.

It's not like Black is even the colour of the national football side.
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Jeff Vader wrote:
Why would we do this when we are known for our yellow? We are not All Black supporters and why make it about blackening out the heart? Why make it about them? I would make it all about emphasising our yellow. Its our stadium our home fortress, no one elses.
 
[QUOTE=ballane]Why the FK would you want your fans to dress all in black.I for one take great pride in turning up in my stripey and to suggest to swap it for black is an epic fail by the Phoenix.As suggested above why black,yellow would have been a far better idea.

Can see it already sh*tloads of all black jerseys.FKN great idea.

[QUOTE=Junior82]WELLINGTON Phoenix FC. Wellington colours are yellow and black.

I enjoy and take pride in wearing phoenix colours.

If the club wants to go for gimmicks like this then good luck to it. I'll wear stripey.

Our maybe a 5under1and shirt.

Got bored looking for more.
 
 
Don't wear black then. Still doesn't explain why it is such a big deal, and why we should be insulted etc. As the nix have said, it isn't even aimed at us.
 
Yes, it is a bit of a weird campaign (Even I said that at the start of this thread), but it has also been explained to tie into an overall theme. If you don't own black, don't wear it if you don't want to (I won't be).

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rjmiller wrote:
I'm not offended by it. I just think it's silly to be telling fans NOT to wear the merchandise they have been buying from the club. (Unless its a plan to get people to buy a black polo top.) There are only 12 home games to wear this stuff to. I do understand what is being said about making it an event and I am glad they are making an effort to run some marketing and address the shrinking crowd size. If it brings people in, even if it does so by creating a minor controversy and getting a story in the paper, great.
 
I agree with this (first sentance not so much).  I may post an emotional outburst tonight.  Or I may have calmed down by then.
 
Probably not.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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ShowUsYaNix wrote:

From a yellow fever perspective I agree that this isn't going to impress people, but given that we are the only group that is going to show up week in week out, why would they focus on getting us to do something we're already going to do?
I'm not saying they are ignoring the fever, but the number standing in the fever zone has shrunk over the years.
 
edit : standing, figure of speech
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ShowUsYaNix wrote:
ahmad wrote:


I was incensed last year by the Highlander's proposed change to a green jersey (to be their predominant playing strip), as was much of the region.


Would you have been incensed had they encouraged fans to wear green on one single occasion, in order to attract fringe fans, and support a charity at the same time?

Don't get me wrong I know that's not what you're arguing and I don't mean to take your post out of context, but the whole stoush with the highlanders jersey seems completely different. There they wanted to actually change the strip to something completely different, for no reason whatsoever.

If they had said wear green to one game I'd have thought WTF? Why green? It's not even one of our colours?

But a better analogy might have been if they asked us to wear maroon for one game (maroon is a minority colour on the playing jersey).

Sure, why not? It's on the jersey and is one of the team's colours?ahmad2012-01-17 13:58:01

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rjmiller wrote:
ShowUsYaNix wrote:
From a yellow fever perspective I agree that this isn't going to impress people, but given that we are the only group that is going to show up week in week out, why would they focus on getting us to do something we're already going to do?

I'm not saying they are ignoring the fever, but the number sitting in the fever zone has shrunk over the years.


Well I'll give you that, but I still think my point stands that if they want to increase crowd figures the vast majority of the target population will come from outside the fever. Yes they have to make sure they keep us on side as well, but as I said, they seem to be on their way to doing that, and certainly seem well-intentioned.

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Tegal.  You and I clearly have different values and views on what's important.  Let's leave it at that without resorting to remarks about high and mighty and making a big deal about it because you don't think it is.
 
  
Junior822012-01-17 13:59:48

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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ShowUsYaNix wrote:
rjmiller wrote:
ShowUsYaNix wrote:
From a yellow fever perspective I agree that this isn't going to impress people, but given that we are the only group that is going to show up week in week out, why would they focus on getting us to do something we're already going to do?

I'm not saying they are ignoring the fever, but the number sitting in the fever zone has shrunk over the years.


Well I'll give you that, but I still think my point stands that if they want to increase crowd figures the vast majority of the target population will come from outside the fever. Yes they have to make sure they keep us on side as well, but as I said, they seem to be on their way to doing that, and certainly seem well-intentioned.

I do agree with that.
 
Hopefully over the years all these kids come free deals will pay off.
rjmiller2012-01-17 13:59:37
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ahmad wrote:
ShowUsYaNix wrote:
ahmad wrote:


I was incensed last year by the Highlander's proposed change to a green jersey (to be their predominant playing strip), as was much of the region.


Would you have been incensed had they encouraged fans to wear green on one single occasion, in order to attract fringe fans, and support a charity at the same time?

Don't get me wrong I know that's not what you're arguing and I don't mean to take your post out of context, but the whole stoush with the highlanders jersey seems completely different. There they wanted to actually change the strip to something completely different, for no reason whatsoever.

If they had said wear green to one game I'd have thought WTF? Why green? It's not even one of our colours?

But a better analogy might have been if they asked us to wear maroon for one game (maroon is a minority colour on the playing jersey).

Sure, why not? It's on the jersey and is one of the team's colours?


Wasn't the point of changing to green to incorporate Southland but avoid maroon?

Beside the point really, but I agree with what you're saying, it's not like black is completely out of left field, and think some people on here are making a little too much of it.


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I wonder how Leeds fans reacted when Revie changed their kit in the 60's.

Three for me, and two for them.

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ShowUsYaNix wrote:
Wasn't the point of changing to green to incorporate Southland but avoid maroon?

Beside the point really, but I agree with what you're saying, it's not like black is completely out of left field, and think some people on here are making a little too much of it.

Maroon's always been on the strip in some form to represent Southland. Green was chosen because they wanted to reinvent/rebrand/reboot the team and appeal to a wider audience than just Otago/Southland.

Which begged the question exactly which non-Otago/Southland residents they were hoping to attract support from with their non-regional team.ahmad2012-01-17 14:01:54

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I think there's a bit of a point being missed here. As far as I can see:

Nobody is saying that encouraging people to our games is a bad thing.
Nobody is saying the Nix shouldn't be helping charities
Nobody is saying that the Nix shouldn't use marketing strategies.
 
For me, there are two issues.
 
One, as I've said before, the "blackout" thing has been done to death before by other sports.
 
The other is that, it's not about what casual fans do or don't wear to the game. It's the inference, real or perceived, that supporters in a supporters group called "Yellow Fever" who support a team who's colours are predominantly yellow, should abandon that colour and wear something else when they support their team. 
 
I can see how YF could be insulted. Our supporters group is called YELLOW Fever, but this is encouraging people to wear another colour.
 
All that said, I'm not planning on losing a lot of sleep over it, and if it boosts the crowd and helps the charity, all good.
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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rjmiller wrote:
ShowUsYaNix wrote:
rjmiller wrote:
ShowUsYaNix wrote:
From a yellow fever perspective I agree that this isn't going to impress people, but given that we are the only group that is going to show up week in week out, why would they focus on getting us to do something we're already going to do?

I'm not saying they are ignoring the fever, but the number sitting in the fever zone has shrunk over the years.
Well I'll give you that, but I still think my point stands that if they want to increase crowd figures the vast majority of the target population will come from outside the fever. Yes they have to make sure they keep us on side as well, but as I said, they seem to be on their way to doing that, and certainly seem well-intentioned.

I do agree with that.

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Hopefully over the years all these kids come free deals will pay off.


Ha, yes that is clearly a genius long-term strategy. Personally I think there should be more freebie tickets. That's how I first came along to a game in '09. Won some free tickets, loved it, then kept going back week after week. If every free ticket they gave away led to a repeat customer, it'd be brilliant for the club.


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Junior82 wrote:
Tegal.  You and I clearly have different values and views on what's important.  Let's leave it at that without resorting to remarks about high and mighty and making a big deal about because you don't think it is.
 
  
 
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. But at the same time don't understand being insulted or offended by it.
 
Definetly 2 different points of view.
 
My high and mighty and 'stupid' comments were probably a bit stupid. But were more at YF exec seemingly slamming the club for what is essentially a marketing campaign for charity and to bring marginal fans to the game. I understand it can annoy you on a personal level etc, but these guys probably should be a bit more supportive of the club, instead of spouting the "we are insulted" line. In my opinion anyway.

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ShowUsYaNix wrote:
Ha, yes that is clearly a genius long-term strategy. Personally I think there should be more freebie tickets. That's how I first came along to a game in '09. Won some free tickets, loved it, then kept going back week after week. If every free ticket they gave away led to a repeat customer, it'd be brilliant for the club.

Kids free is a loss-leader. It is indeed genius, and potentially cost-neutral or cost-beneficial.

There are frequently ticket give-aways at the Sony store on Willis Street (cheers guys!).

I think I may have won free tickets there for every Nix game I have attended. Already had my tickets of course, so end up bringing more casual fans along with me.

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Jag wrote:

I think there's a bit of a point being missed here. As far as I can see:


Nobody is saying that encouraging people to our games is a bad thing.

Nobody is saying the Nix shouldn't be helping charities

Nobody is saying that the Nix shouldn't use marketing strategies.

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For me, there are two issues.

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One, as I've said before, the "blackout" thing has been done to death before by other sports.

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The other is that,�it's not about�what casual fans do or don't wear to the game. It's the inference, real or perceived,�that supporters in a supporters group called "Yellow Fever" who support a team who's colours are predominantly yellow, should abandon that colour and wear something else when they support their team.�

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I can see how YF could be insulted. Our supporters group is called YELLOW Fever, but this is encouraging people to wear another colour.

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All that said, I'm not planning on losing a lot of sleep over it, and if it boosts the crowd and helps the charity, all good.

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That's pretty much exactly my thoughts aswell - slightly odd, but not the huge deal its being made out to be.
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Same ^^

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Jag wrote:

For me, there are two issues.

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One, as I've said before, the "blackout" thing has been done to death before by other sports.

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So? As far as I can tell this promo as aimed at fickle fans who are just that, fickle. At the risk of being slightly condescending there may well be a group of potential fans who will get quite excited by the idea of all wearing a black T-shirt. Sure, I find it weird, but hey, if it works then it works, people have short memories and imo the fact that it has been done by other sports shouldn't be a reason for not doing it again.

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The other is that,�it's not about�what casual fans do or don't wear to the game. It's the inference, real or perceived,�that supporters in a supporters group called "Yellow Fever" who support a team who's colours are predominantly yellow, should abandon that colour and wear something else when they support their team.�

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I can see how YF could be insulted. Our supporters group is called YELLOW Fever, but this is encouraging people to wear another colour.

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All that said, I'm not planning on losing a lot of sleep over it, and if it boosts the crowd and helps the charity, all good.

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Again, I understand the fever being slightly upset, but it's not like anyone is being forced to wear black, in fact I'm not sure the marketing dept. even mentioned it on here did they?

If in a year or two they still haven't done anything focused on fever fans, I'll be just as aggrieved as some people seem to be already, but for now, I still think it's a good idea.


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ahmad wrote:
ShowUsYaNix wrote:
ahmad wrote:


I was incensed last year by the Highlander's proposed change to a green jersey (to be their predominant playing strip), as was much of the region.


Would you have been incensed had they encouraged fans to wear green on one single occasion, in order to attract fringe fans, and support a charity at the same time?

Don't get me wrong I know that's not what you're arguing and I don't mean to take your post out of context, but the whole stoush with the highlanders jersey seems completely different. There they wanted to actually change the strip to something completely different, for no reason whatsoever.

If they had said wear green to one game I'd have thought WTF? Why green? It's not even one of our colours?

But a better analogy might have been if they asked us to wear maroon for one game (maroon is a minority colour on the playing jersey).

Sure, why not? It's on the jersey and is one of the team's colours?


Exactly this. Spot on Ahmad.
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ShowUsYaNix wrote:
Jag wrote:

For me, there are two issues.

 

One, as I've said before, the "blackout" thing has been done to death before by other sports.

 
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So? As far as I can tell this promo as aimed at fickle fans who are just that, fickle. At the risk of being slightly condescending there may well be a group of potential fans who will get quite excited by the idea of all wearing a black T-shirt. Sure, I find it weird, but hey, if it works then it works, people have short memories and imo the fact that it has been done by other sports shouldn't be a reason for not doing it again.

[Quote=Jag]
The other is that, it's not about what casual fans do or don't wear to the game. It's the inference, real or perceived, that supporters in a supporters group called "Yellow Fever" who support a team who's colours are predominantly yellow, should abandon that colour and wear something else when they support their team. 

 

I can see how YF could be insulted. Our supporters group is called YELLOW Fever, but this is encouraging people to wear another colour.

 

All that said, I'm not planning on losing a lot of sleep over it, and if it boosts the crowd and helps the charity, all good.

 

 


Again, I understand the fever being slightly upset, but it's not like anyone is being forced to wear black, in fact I'm not sure the marketing dept. even mentioned it on here did they?

If in a year or two they still haven't done anything focused on fever fans, I'll be just as aggrieved as some people seem to be already, but for now, I still think it's a good idea.


 
 Clearly I'm in the minority here (not)

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Tegal wrote:

ShowUsYaNix wrote:
Jag wrote:

For me, there are two issues.

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One, as I've said before, the "blackout" thing has been done to death before by other sports.

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So? As far as I can tell this promo as aimed at fickle fans who are just that, fickle. At the risk of being slightly condescending there may well be a group of potential fans who will get quite excited by the idea of all wearing a black T-shirt. Sure, I find it weird, but hey, if it works then it works, people have short memories and imo the fact that it has been done by other sports shouldn't be a reason for not doing it again.

[Quote=Jag]
The other is that,�it's not about�what casual fans do or don't wear to the game. It's the inference, real or perceived,�that supporters in a supporters group called "Yellow Fever" who support a team who's colours are predominantly yellow, should abandon that colour and wear something else when they support their team.�

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I can see how YF could be insulted. Our supporters group is called YELLOW Fever, but this is encouraging people to wear another colour.

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All that said, I'm not planning on losing a lot of sleep over it, and if it boosts the crowd and helps the charity, all good.

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Again, I understand the fever being slightly upset, but it's not like anyone is being forced to wear black, in fact I'm not sure the marketing dept. even mentioned it on here did they?

If in a year or two they still haven't done anything focused on fever fans, I'll be just as aggrieved as some people seem to be already, but for now, I still think it's a good idea.



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�Clearly I'm in the minority here (not)


Dammit Tegal I was doing my best not to get lumped in with your extremist opinions.


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Tegal wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
Tegal.  You and I clearly have different values and views on what's important.  Let's leave it at that without resorting to remarks about high and mighty and making a big deal about because you don't think it is.
 
  
 
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. But at the same time don't understand being insulted or offended by it.
 
Definetly 2 different points of view.
 
My high and mighty and 'stupid' comments were probably a bit stupid. But were more at YF exec seemingly slamming the club for what is essentially a marketing campaign for charity and to bring marginal fans to the game. I understand it can annoy you on a personal level etc, but these guys probably should be a bit more supportive of the club, instead of spouting the "we are insulted" line. In my opinion anyway.
right so now I'm not supportive of the club. You really are coming with some interesting angles here

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Sorry, just what you said is pretty much what I've been saying . I don't really understand people getting offended or feeling insulted, but they're allowed an opinion. My opinion is that it is quite an odd promotion, but not that big a deal. The fevers official stance should be to get behind it, or at least not come out and slam the club for it.
 
 It does sound like it may actually work as a promotion,even if it is unoriginal. The club has also come on here and said that it does tie in with an overall theme for charity (as well as the pun of black out the heart), and I trust them on that.

Another thing to consider is we don't want an us vs them fan scenario where we act like we are better than any other fan that turns up on a given day.


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What pisses me off is some random who may attending their first game,may get to walk away with some of the sponsors product.While some of us who have been there from the start and havnt missed a home game dont even get a bloody fridge magnet.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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ShowUsYaNix wrote:
 <Snip> ............. So? As far as I can tell this promo as aimed at fickle fans who are just that, fickle. At the risk of being slightly condescending there may well be a group of potential fans who will get quite excited by the idea of all wearing a black T-shirt. Sure, I find it weird, but hey, if it works then it works, people have short memories and imo the fact that it has been done by other sports shouldn't be a reason for not doing it again.

<Snip>................Again, I understand the fever being slightly upset, but it's not like anyone is being forced to wear black, in fact I'm not sure the marketing dept. even mentioned it on here did they?

If in a year or two they still haven't done anything focused on fever fans, I'll be just as aggrieved as some people seem to be already, but for now, I still think it's a good idea.


 
 
1. I didn't say it was or wasn't a reason for doing it. I said it had been done to death by other sports. It would have been nice to see something more original and innovative
 
2. At no time did I say anyone was being forced to wear black. I said, quite clearly, that a conclusion could be drawn that everybody who comes to the game should wear black.
 
Interesting that you said that the Marketing Dept didn't mention it on here. So our Marketing dept don't feel it necessary to include or engage directly with the the supporters group?  
 
Anyway, this whole thing is going round in circles. I'm getting off the roundabout, I'm getting dizzy

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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the club has had a year to come up with a promotion. Something non controversial might have been nice.

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I didn't mean to indicate that they didn't find it necessary to engage directly with us, I more meant that they clearly realise that this isn't aimed at us.
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I've said it several times already but it's got lost in this thread which is looking like it might become longer than the Heart match thread.

The concept of having this blackout seems so out of left field that surely it has something to do with this one-off special event that has been secretly planned. Who knows? The "event" might be pretty huge and generate significant interest/promotion for the Nix.

If they manage to pull that off then would it be a bad thing for the Nix/Yellow Fever?

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ahmad wrote:
I've said it several times already but it's got lost in this thread which is looking like it might become longer than the Heart match thread.

The concept of having this blackout seems so out of left field that surely it has something to do with this one-off special event that has been secretly planned. Who knows? The "event" might be pretty huge and generate significant interest/promotion for the Nix.

If they manage to pull that off then would it be a bad thing for the Nix/Yellow Fever?
 
Because it is controversial. It is a huge slap in the face for yellow fever to be asked to wear black (one of the clubs colours). I can't believe the club have spat in our faces like this.
 
Have I conformed succesfully?

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ShowUsYaNix wrote:
I didn't mean to indicate that they didn't find it necessary to engage directly with us, I more meant that they clearly realise that this isn't aimed at us.
 
My apologies, I wasn't actually suggesting you did. More that I'd have thought that using or keeping the existing customers informed might have been a good idea. YF members have friends too (some of them, anyway) who might be tempted along to the game.
Jag2012-01-17 14:36:02

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Tegal wrote:
ahmad wrote:
I've said it several times already but it's got lost in this thread which is looking like it might become longer than the Heart match thread.

The concept of having this blackout seems so out of left field that surely it has something to do with this one-off special event that has been secretly planned. Who knows? The "event" might be pretty huge and generate significant interest/promotion for the Nix.

If they manage to pull that off then would it be a bad thing for the Nix/Yellow Fever?
 
Because it is controversial. It is a huge slap in the face for yellow fever to be asked to wear black (one of the clubs colours). I can't believe the club have spat in our faces like this.
 
Have I conformed succesfully?
 
  

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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via Wellington Phoenix Facebook wrote:
Black Out vs the Heart Sunday Jan 29, 4.30pm!

The next home game v Melbourne Heart is all about a charity intiative we are running with one of our main charity partners - Cure Kids. We are working with them and a couple of key supppliers to come up with something a bit different which will hopefully raise a lot of money for Cure Kids.

We work closely with Cure Kids on a number of intiatives each year and they are an amazing and inspiring charity doing incredible things. Hopefully it means we can raise a couple of thousand dollars and make some kids and their families lives better - some of who are facing incredible challenges.

Details at the game!

Many thanks for your support and see you on the 29th and Come on the Nix!

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ahmad wrote:
via Wellington Phoenix Facebook wrote:
Black Out vs the Heart Sunday Jan 29, 4.30pm!

The next home game v Melbourne Heart is all about a charity intiative we are running with one of our main charity partners - Cure Kids. We are working with them and a couple of key supppliers to come up with something a bit different which will hopefully raise a lot of money for Cure Kids.

We work closely with Cure Kids on a number of intiatives each year and they are an amazing and inspiring charity doing incredible things. Hopefully it means we can raise a couple of thousand dollars and make some kids and their families lives better - some of who are facing incredible challenges.

Details at the game!

Many thanks for your support and see you on the 29th and Come on the Nix!


f**k this I've had enough I'm not going anymore.


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Soooo... can we all just get along now?

We all want the crowds to grow.
 
We all want the club to promote the club, the team and the experience.
 
We all (including the club) want yellow to continue to be a strong part of the brands (Club and YF).
 
...and...
 
It's a one off promotion.
 
It seems to be gaining at least some traction from the anecdotal evidence of a few posts on here with the non-fanatical fan portions of the public. Surely that's good?
 
It's for a good cause.
 
It seems "a bit odd" to a number of the regular fans. Okay, so what? Surely we can get over that?
 
It seems to have offended or insulted at least some portion of the hard core fans, but they'll get over it, I hope. It's okay to be offended or insulted. It's a valid point of view.
 
No one is forcing anyone to get in behind the event. You can still wear your team colours to the game.
 
The team at the club are very limited in number, and trying really hard, and they want what we want - the vibrant, successful, growing club and supporter base. They're bloody magic to deal with if you reach out to them... David got the FFA to approve the Brazilian Flags for the Daniel tribute in a matter of hours. Bravo!
 
I'd be surprised if they (The marketing group at the club) have not learnt a few things from the beating they have taken in this thread. They've posted here, so no doubt they are reading it, and I doubt they want to be getting a beating from the core fanatical supporters. It's probably been a gruelling couple of days at work for them. In a perfect world they'd liaise with YF over ideas like this before hand... but as I said above, they're pretty stretched for numbers right now, so such ideas are probably in the nice to have column right now.
 
There's probably a few bigger fish to fry in the back room right now... for example: fleshing out the coaching staff, getting Ricki the financial resources for getting the squad right, signing up the players coming off contract, getting the new CEO and other back office staff appointed and bedded in, etc.
 
I'm going to support the blackout. I hope we get a bumper crowd for it.
 
COYN.
 
 
bwtcf2012-01-17 14:41:42

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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bwtcf wrote:
David got the <SPAN style=": yellow" =J-JK9eJ-PJVNOc>FFA</SPAN> to approve the Brazilian Flags for the Daniel tribute in a matter of hours. Bravo!

HATS OFF TO YOU MR BWTCF!!!

P.S. Are you a police negotiator?ahmad2012-01-17 14:42:53

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bwtcf wrote:

Soooo... can we all just get along now?

.......  
 
 
Are you nuts? 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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 Can't we all just get along?
 
I'm thinking of getting a black shirt now and wearing it in the feverzone in protest

Allegedly

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Tegal wrote:
 Can't we all just get along?
 
I'm thinking of getting a black shirt now and wearing it in the feverzone in protest
 
<Whispers> I usually wear my v1 black shirt to games anyway! 
Jag2012-01-17 14:44:09

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Who wants to help me wave Brazilian Flags at the Heart game?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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Who wants to help me wave Brazilian Flags at the Heart game?

Does that mean I can wear yellow to the game?

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Someone Who Is Obviously Completely Out of Touch with the 'Real' Fans wrote:
It seems "a bit odd" to a number of the regular fans. Okay, so what? Surely we can get over that?


Can we though, can we really?! This is one grudge that I, as a hardcore, there from day one in the wind, rain and snow, stripey wearing fan who knows the tune to Go West and likes to take the opportunity to remind people of all of this, WILL NEVER BE LETTING GO OF!

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