Crowds - The thread of Australian whining

Perhaps a nix game in Hamilton. That would be the best news ever.

The bit that frustrates me is that they kept saying "we need 10K through the gate or we'll take games away". Now it turns out that regardless how many come to the Wgtn games they will take games away. Why not be upfront and honest about it at the beginning.

I love going to home games and I will renew my membership, however I will also stop hassling all my friends to come to games. Whats the point in trying to increase the base when it turns out that crowd numbers in Wgtn mean nothing. Why should I try and do their marketing job for them.

Welnix, you need to have a serious think about what you are doing with the club, and communicate that effectively to your season pass holders. You lied to us, you said that you were doing it because you love Wellington and had no plans to take more games away. I don't mind if you want to do these things, just don't lie to us about them.

Didn't think I would be saying this just over a year ago when they took over.

Thanks for putting my thoughts so eloquently. Agree with every single word. I think that Welnix do not understand football in the tiniest regard. The lack of respect or loyalty to dedicated fans is pretty breathtaking, their marketing is utterly wank ("Go and watch the opposition's multi-million dollar signing" FFS) and now they want to take OUR team on more away games. I do not think we will be buying season passes next year. That's four of us. It cost us about $1000 for the Dunedin thrashing, and once bitten etc.

Imagine Liverpool fans being told "We're going to play 3 or 4 games in London this year".

Or for that matter Yeovil Town fans, or Rochdale fans (you get my point).

Feck.

And Merry Christmas.

And sack Ricki.

Well, here's 4 season tickets that wont be renewed next season. Where was the marketing?  Where Wellington goes to see Del Piero? WHERE for f.cks sake? Where Wellington goes to sing? WHEN for f.cks sake? You need a magnifying glass to find out who we are playing, where & when. We should get a banner up at the CCM game demonstrating our annoyance at Welnix's apathy.

So my question relates to season tickets, I paid $175 for a season ticket this year, which included 12 games in Welly & 1 in Auckland, now I am yet to go to one of these home away games, and probably won't go to any, so I would it out as $175 for 12 games or $14.58 per game, now if they take two more games away are they going to drop the price of a season ticket by $29? Or are they just going to expect me to pay $17.50 per game? (Which as soon as I miss one game is closer to $20 a game), or are they going to go with the crap about getting free tickets to the away games counting, because for me it doesn't. 

I have sooo much angst about this, but Welnix have seriously pissed me off, don't even ask the fans what would get more people along, suggest they are doing it for Wellington, then decide to take games away, even if crowds reach 10k average. Maybe they should do some marketing, I see St Kilda (AFL) are going to be marketing their single Wellington game in January, a full 3 months before they play, the Phoenix barely advertise the week before.

Newcastle supporters hung their banners and flags upside down in protest against Con Constantine a few years ago, and some of the members nearly got thrown off a corporate box because of it. Seriosuly.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/492018/why-con-constantine-swore-at-fans/

Does anyone have an email address for David Dome (or someone else useful at the club)?

It's probably of little use, but I'm going to complain to the club directly about their complete lack of marketing effort, lack of engagement with the fans ... and of course the travelling circus they want to turn us into.

Ill join in saying I won't be renewing my season ticket next season. Will just get the free tickets I can get from work instead. F*ck it. 

I'll still buy one because I want to go to the games. Fewer Nix games is better than none at all, but i won't be buying one just to support the owners.

no season ticket for me either next year. 4.30 sunday games suck. stop catering to the kids they are not turning up.

There's more to a club than money though. 

"Chairman Rob Morrison also yesterday acknowledged that the Phoenix - who lost to a last-placed and under-strength Sydney FC side at home last Sunday - needed to improve their product on the field."

Yep. We are no longer a club we are a business that has an on-field product to sell to consumers.

Honeymoon is over Welnix.  Try being sustainable when you start sh!tting on your core fan base.

Sorry - I meant "repeat consumers."

next home game we have to take a stand.. 

Wellington Fan

Not a Circus fan

"Wlgtn not nz nix"

So, how much do you think I can get on Trademe for a flat screen SONY TV (one year old)?

how long is a piece of string?

Could do something similar to what is happening in Germany, regarding protesting. There is a 12:12 movement which is all Bundesliga fans being silent for the first 12min and 12 sec of games in protest to proposed changes to how fans are managed at games and seen as a threat to the Bundesliga's excellent fan culture and cheap tickets: Fighting for your right to party 

Could do a silent sit down protest at a game, might be hard at the next one due 12 pubs of Lochhead but maybe on the 27th.

"The day & kick off time is a red herring. Crowds are no bigger for night games. These kids they are targeting are the next generation of Phoenix fans, they need to be hooked young and develop a culture of wanting to go to games"

I don't quite agree with that, the numbers may be the same but why should 8 of our 12 home games cater to possible future fans, what about the current fans don't we count for anything. Perhaps mixing it up a little so that everyone is catered for at least part of the time.

What about emptying the whole fever zone and instead doing it in aisle 33 or something like that? The exact opposite side of the stadium?

Means we can still do it next home game when it is the most important. 

Although do they keep that part of the stadium closed off? Could always do it around aisle 13 or something

Banner. Short, sharp, directed at owners.

Then we can move on and support the players.

Just a banner along the lines of "Sort it out wellnix" should be enough at this stage imo

"Moustaches are a novelty"

Or all dress up as circus animals/acts and have a banner with "the nix travelling circus" on it.

Oh the LOLs.

You'd be happy with eventually having half the wellington Phoenix games being played outside of wellington?