League Table 2014/15

Would you expect to take points off them if we were at home though?  They just seem way better than us right now

Melbourne Victory 3 Adelaide United 2

		P	W	D	L	GD	Pts
	Melbourne Victory	8	5	3	0	10	18
	Perth Glory	7	6	0	1	4	18
	Adelaide United	8	5	2	1	6	17
	Sydney FC	7	4	3	0	6	15
	Wellington Phoenix	7	3	0	4	0	9
	Melbourne City	7	1	3	3	-3	6
	Central Coast	7	1	2	4	-5	5
	Brisbane Roar	6	1	0	5	-3	3
	Newcastle Jets	7	0	3	4	-9	3
	Western Sydney	6	0	2	4	-6	2

Brisbane Roar 1 Perth Glory 1

		P	W	D	L	GD	Pts
	Perth Glory	8	6	1	1	4	19
	Melbourne Victory	8	5	3	0	10	18
	Adelaide United	8	5	2	1	6	17
	Sydney FC	7	4	3	0	6	15
	Wellington Phoenix	7	3	0	4	0	9
	Melbourne City	7	1	3	3	-3	6
	Central Coast	7	1	2	4	-5	5
	Brisbane Roar	7	1	1	5	-3	4
	Newcastle Jets	7	0	3	4	-9	3
	Western Sydney	6	0	2	4	-6	2

Western Sydney Wanderers 1 Sydney FC 1

		P	W	D	L	GD	Pts
	Perth Glory	8	6	1	1	4	19
	Melbourne Victory	8	5	3	0	10	18
	Adelaide United	8	5	2	1	6	17
	Sydney FC	8	4	4	0	6	16
	Wellington Phoenix	7	3	0	4	0	9
	Melbourne City	7	1	3	3	-3	6
	Central Coast	7	1	2	4	-5	5
	Brisbane Roar	7	1	1	5	-3	4
	Western Sydney	7	0	3	4	-6	3
	Newcastle Jets	7	0	3	4	-9	3

Today is big.

Win and create a wee gap to 6th, then we can start to look above rather than behind...

we are going to win 4-0.

Nuff said.

TW set the standard

Wellington Phoenix 5 Melbourne City 1

		P	W	D	L	GD	Pts
	Perth Glory	8	6	1	1	4	19
	Melbourne Victory	8	5	3	0	10	18
	Adelaide United	8	5	2	1	6	17
	Sydney FC	8	4	4	0	6	16
	Wellington Phoenix	8	4	0	4	4	12
	Melbourne City	8	1	3	4	-7	6
	Central Coast	7	1	2	4	-5	5
	Brisbane Roar	7	1	1	5	-3	4
	Western Sydney	7	0	3	4	-6	3
	Newcastle Jets	7	0	3	4	-9	3

One emergency accumulation of 3 pts used up.  How many do we have left?

We have beaten those below us relatively comfortably but can't catch a break against the top 4. It looks like 5th is a fair reflection of us as a team right now. Personally, I picked us to come 7th at the start of the season. 5th would be a good result and give us something to build upon if we can maintain these results.

We haven't played Bling yet and we were unlucky against Adelaide.

Are you Kelvin Cruckshank in disguise? Well predicted.

He's our very own Wgtn cephalopod.

Our Fever Taonga.

I don't agree. We were unlucky with one refereeing call at the end against Adelaide but the performance was poor. I don't think anyone can say we have played well and lost this season.

I don't agree.  Adelaide were clearly the better team but it wasn't one refereeing call. It was a f*ck load of them.

Newcastle Jets 1 Central Coast Mariners 1

		P	W	D	L	GD	Pts
	Perth Glory	8	6	1	1	4	19
	Melbourne Victory	8	5	3	0	10	18
	Adelaide United	8	5	2	1	6	17
	Sydney FC	8	4	4	0	6	16
	Wellington Phoenix	8	4	0	4	4	12
	Central Coast	8	1	3	4	-5	6
	Melbourne City	8	1	3	4	-7	6
	Brisbane Roar	7	1	1	5	-3	4
	Newcastle Jets	8	0	4	4	-9	4
	Western Sydney	7	0	3	4	-6	3

Yes fudge it all. Yes. 

Fudge

Shark

Cod

Need to beat Sydney..

thing is I'm regularly getting the goal difference right, and the result. On this one I  said 4-0, and then we won 

FIVE - ONE.

So after protracted reflection I say fark it, who cares?

07/08 - DLLWDWLL - 8pts - LLWLDDLWDWLLL - 20pts (21 games)

08/09 - DLLDLWDW - 9pts - LLWWWLDWLWLDL - 26pts (21 games)

09/10 - LWDLDDDD - 8pts - DDWLWDWLDLDWWWLLWWW - 40 pts (27 games)

10/11 - DWLLWDLW - 11pts - LDLLWLLWDLWLWDWLWLWWLW - 41 pts (30 games)

11/12 - DWLLLDDW - 9pts - LWWLWLWLWWWWLLWWDLL - 40pts (27 games)

12/13 - WDDLLLWD - 9pts - WLLDWLLLLDWLLDLWLWL - 27pts (27 games)

13/14 - LDDLDLDL - 4pts - LLWWWDWLWWLWLDDLLLL - 28pts (27 games)

14/15 - LWWLWLLW - 12pts

Best start to the season ever, yeah boyee that's fresh!

When do we get past the start of the season?

It is probably more along the lines of 'on track for our best season ever' (whether thats points or position is up for debate I guess)

When we've played each team once I suppose?

Is JD going to get back on the bandwagon after jumping off last week?

At some point, we need to put together a little run. Whether its 4 wins on the trot or 16 points across 7 games or something like that, that just propels us up the table and keeps us away from the rest.

It is a bloody odd table though. So split in 2.

CCM and Jets. Should be aiming ofr 3 wins on a trot.

Are we the worst good team or the best worst team? Table says we are closer to the top than the bottom I guess.

The Newcastle Utd of the A-League.

No.  Our owners actually give a toss about the club.

R9

Sydney v Perth

Jets v Nix

R10

Nix v Mariners

Victory v Sydney

reasonable chance to get ahead of them right there

and then beat 'em away R11

can some-one anti-jinx that fantasy

the lad is so excited by the start of the season, he packed up and moved back to NZ this morning.

So, here we are 8 weeks in.

4 wins, 4 losses.

Of the 4 losses 3 have been 2 - 1, and one has been 2 - 0.

We have the second most goals in the league (15) behind MVC's 18 and our Goals Against is middle of the table.

Goals For:

MVC 18

WPX 15

PER 13

ADL 13

MCY 12

SYD 11

BRI 9

NEW 7

WSW 6

CCM 5

Goals Against:

SYD 5

ADL 7

MVC 8

PER 9

CCM 10

WPX 11

BRI 12

WSW 12

NEW 16

MCY 19

Our goal difference is +4

Goal Difference:

MVC +10

ADL +6

SYD +6

PER +4

WPX +4

BRI -3

CCM -5

WSW -6

MCY -7

NEW -9

We are 5th, with a 6 point break over 6th.

We are in the top half, clearly. We were worried about where goals were going to come from, and we have the second most GF in the league and Nathan Burns is top of the golden boot race.

Of our loses, only the MVC away game is one where we were not in with a chance of a draw. We could have had draws in round 1 at home against Glory and in round 6 away to Adelaide, but conceded last minute goals.

_IF_ we had drawn those two games 1 - 1 the top of the table would look like this:

MVC 18 points +10 GD

ADL 17 points +5 GD

PER 17 points +3 GD

SYD 16 points +6 GD

WPX 14 points +6 GD

With CCM a distant 6th on 6 poits still... If that was how the table was sitting right now I think we'd all be pretty pleased.

I am not saying that is how it should be, just that it was not a hundred miles off being that way. I think that shows we really are in the mix.

I have to say I am pretty stoked with that report card after 8 rounds.

With Newcastle and CCM in the next two rounds we really need to make sure we get the full 6 points.

And against Perth at Perth in round 7??  We were never in line for a draw there.

But this thread is about how we're tracking this season (cumulative results), not if we are playing well. 

The table does not differentiate between "playing well and losing" vs "playing poorly and losing". It reflects the game results, regardless of how we played - so Junior82 is correct in saying we were unlucky. Unlucky, because we were very close to pinching a point from Adelaide, you could say "an undeserved point", in fairness to your opinion above.

I disagree. Conceding a goal in the last minute isn't being unlucky. It's poor defending and not playing well enough for 90 minutes. One of those goals we didn't mark a set piece and the other one was a howler. There was nothing unlucky in either.  A lot of football results would be different if football was an 85 minute game. If we discounted goals scored between minutes 32 and 36 we would also have 2 extra competition points. I don't see why conceding in the last 5 minutes makes you unlucky but conceding between minutes 32 and 36 isn't unlucky somehow? Why do the last 5 minutes get some extra status as being the unlucky period? It's all just part of the game.

I think mentioning the performances and who we have played is relevant because the table by itself is meaningless. All the teams have had different playing schedules so to get a gauge on where teams really are you need to factor in who they have played. For instance, Perth is 1st but 7 of their 8 games have been against teams ranked 5th or lower and the only time they have played one of the top 4, they lost.

At the end of the season the table is God. Until that point the table is just a guide to how teams are going.

We are going well though, and despite playing poorly against Adelaide we almost held on for a point. I'd say it was disappointing rather than unlucky. As that parallel universe table shows, as long as we keep playing well and getting wins at home, hanging on to get draws and the odd win away from home should comfortably secure us a playoff spot, possibly even a top four one.

Yes, my point was that despite what actually happened we were not 100 miles away from a situation where we are very very very close to the teams above us. You may or may not be able apply similar logic to whether we may or may not have been in with a sniff of a point away at Perth.

The point I was trying to make was to highlight it is not as if we went away and lost 5 - 0 at the Victory, 5 - 0 at Adelaide and 5 - 0 at Perth... 

Despite how it has turned out, we're not that far away from being in a place where we'd all be very pleased. We're not (quite) there though.

Despite that, I can't bring myself to eb unhappy about how we are going.

It's still our best start ever.