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Nix Transfer Speculation 2019-20

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over 6 years ago

Nelfoos wrote:

Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Still a prick and so far past his best he isn't worth paying any money to. Let's get the import striker we need then see what gaps are needing to be filled - Clayton Lewis would be nice, and maybe Berisha at that point if he's heap to add depth and competition but if we sign him as our mian goalscorer I can see us winning the spoon.

No one is suggesting we sign him as our first option striker though, and I'm 100% certain that includes Uffie. As a bench option he could be pretty handy though, and as others mentioned he could teach Waine and McCowatt a thing or two. He knows where the net is, and the reason he didn't score was because he wasn't even playing, he was injured and then out of favour with the coach. I hated him at roar and victory but even at this age he would be a pragmatic signing as a role player in the wider squad
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over 6 years ago

-naz- wrote:

surly you guys are having a laugh not wanting berisha as much of a cock he is.  The guy isnt even an import means a proven a league striker with an import slot available still.   Yes he's barely played there last 18 month's but get him fit and you know what you will get out of him.   Will be good for waine and mcowatt to learn off.  Getting him the club can then look for another import defender mid season or another play maker.   This is a big no brainer

Hernandez 2.0

That's the thing though, he wouldn't be. Hernandez was a dickhead because he was lazy and had a poor attitude off the pitch. Berisha was a dickhead because he was fiery on the pitch, but he's a good guy to have on the team off the pitch. Hernandez is disliked because at the end he was detrimental to his own team, Berisha is disliked by opposing fans because he acted like a wanker on the pitch and was very good at scoring goals. Fans love Berisha when he plays for their team because he is loyal and will do anything for the team
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over 6 years ago

If the price was right, we'd be stupid not to take him. There is no other player in A-League history that I hate more, but we're desperately short of experience in the front third. He is a proven A-League performer and at 34 years old isn't completely beyond it. We were happy to take Smeltz back at a similar point in his career so why not Berisha. Roll the dice and see what happens.

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over 6 years ago

Jazzy Jeff wrote:

-naz- wrote:

surly you guys are having a laugh not wanting berisha as much of a cock he is.  The guy isnt even an import means a proven a league striker with an import slot available still.   Yes he's barely played there last 18 month's but get him fit and you know what you will get out of him.   Will be good for waine and mcowatt to learn off.  Getting him the club can then look for another import defender mid season or another play maker.   This is a big no brainer

Hernandez 2.0

That's the thing though, he wouldn't be. Hernandez was a dickhead because he was lazy and had a poor attitude off the pitch. Berisha was a dickhead because he was fiery on the pitch, but he's a good guy to have on the team off the pitch. Hernandez is disliked because at the end he was detrimental to his own team, Berisha is disliked by opposing fans because he acted like a wanker on the pitch and was very good at scoring goals. Fans love Berisha when he plays for their team because he is loyal and will do anything for the team

Great point. For all his gigantic cockery Berisha never gave less than 100% and you get the sense that his dick behaviour was just an extension of that drive to win at all costs. Whereas Carlos was technically gifted but lazy on the pitch and clearly not too fussed about the team as a whole

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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

Jazzy Jeff wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Still a prick and so far past his best he isn't worth paying any money to. Let's get the import striker we need then see what gaps are needing to be filled - Clayton Lewis would be nice, and maybe Berisha at that point if he's heap to add depth and competition but if we sign him as our mian goalscorer I can see us winning the spoon.

No one is suggesting we sign him as our first option striker though, and I'm 100% certain that includes Uffie. As a bench option he could be pretty handy though, and as others mentioned he could teach Waine and McCowatt a thing or two. He knows where the net is, and the reason he didn't score was because he wasn't even playing, he was injured and then out of favour with the coach. I hated him at roar and victory but even at this age he would be a pragmatic signing as a role player in the wider squad

I'm concerned that we are looking at him as our first striker option, and I'm concerned he'd want the wages of one as well. Ufuk has talked about the "last piece of the puzzle" and we've had no further rumours or movement on an import striker. I'm far more open to it if he's available for cheap and as depth but currently don't feel that that's the most likely option.

I think he'd perform similarly to Smeltz and Burns on their respective returns - ie, not worth the time taken away from developing McCowatt and Waine. I'm sure he'll give 100%, I'm just worried about what 100% looks like when he's been unable to convince a coach he deserves to play in 18 months.

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over 6 years ago

ChopperNZ wrote:

If the price was right, we'd be stupid not to take him. There is no other player in A-League history that I hate more, but we're desperately short of experience in the front third. He is a proven A-League performer and at 34 years old isn't completely beyond it. We were happy to take Smeltz back at a similar point in his career so why not Berisha. Roll the dice and see what happens.

Kevin Muscat was worse than Berisha IMO.

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ChopperNZ wrote:

If the price was right, we'd be stupid not to take him. There is no other player in A-League history that I hate more, but we're desperately short of experience in the front third. (----)

Hmmm.... your mileage may differ, but I give you....

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over 6 years ago

Nelfoos wrote:

Jazzy Jeff wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Still a prick and so far past his best he isn't worth paying any money to. Let's get the import striker we need then see what gaps are needing to be filled - Clayton Lewis would be nice, and maybe Berisha at that point if he's heap to add depth and competition but if we sign him as our mian goalscorer I can see us winning the spoon.

No one is suggesting we sign him as our first option striker though, and I'm 100% certain that includes Uffie. As a bench option he could be pretty handy though, and as others mentioned he could teach Waine and McCowatt a thing or two. He knows where the net is, and the reason he didn't score was because he wasn't even playing, he was injured and then out of favour with the coach. I hated him at roar and victory but even at this age he would be a pragmatic signing as a role player in the wider squad

I'm concerned that we are looking at him as our first striker option, and I'm concerned he'd want the wages of one as well. Ufuk has talked about the "last piece of the puzzle" and we've had no further rumours or movement on an import striker. I'm far more open to it if he's available for cheap and as depth but currently don't feel that that's the most likely option.

I think he'd perform similarly to Smeltz and Burns on their respective returns - ie, not worth the time taken away from developing McCowatt and Waine. I'm sure he'll give 100%, I'm just worried about what 100% looks like when he's been unable to convince a coach he deserves to play in 18 months.

Of course we're looking at him as our first striker option - it's a position we're clearly looking to fill

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over 6 years ago

james dean wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

Jazzy Jeff wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Still a prick and so far past his best he isn't worth paying any money to. Let's get the import striker we need then see what gaps are needing to be filled - Clayton Lewis would be nice, and maybe Berisha at that point if he's heap to add depth and competition but if we sign him as our mian goalscorer I can see us winning the spoon.

No one is suggesting we sign him as our first option striker though, and I'm 100% certain that includes Uffie. As a bench option he could be pretty handy though, and as others mentioned he could teach Waine and McCowatt a thing or two. He knows where the net is, and the reason he didn't score was because he wasn't even playing, he was injured and then out of favour with the coach. I hated him at roar and victory but even at this age he would be a pragmatic signing as a role player in the wider squad

I'm concerned that we are looking at him as our first striker option, and I'm concerned he'd want the wages of one as well. Ufuk has talked about the "last piece of the puzzle" and we've had no further rumours or movement on an import striker. I'm far more open to it if he's available for cheap and as depth but currently don't feel that that's the most likely option.

I think he'd perform similarly to Smeltz and Burns on their respective returns - ie, not worth the time taken away from developing McCowatt and Waine. I'm sure he'll give 100%, I'm just worried about what 100% looks like when he's been unable to convince a coach he deserves to play in 18 months.

Of course we're looking at him as our first striker option - it's a position we're clearly looking to fill

Looking to fill with an import, though. The point is there's no indication that uffie is looking at him at all, but we are speculating that if he was it would be in an different capacity than the last time he played in the league. He's no starter but wouldn't be a bad bench option. If you think uffie would put all his attacking eggs in a 34 year old basket you're having a laugh, the guy is far too sensible
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over 6 years ago

has berisha taken up aussie citizenship? - he'd been there long enough - if so he'd be considered a local so we could pick him up and an import striker.

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over 6 years ago

theprof wrote:

has berisha taken up aussie citizenship? - he'd been there long enough - if so he'd be considered a local so we could pick him up and an import striker.

yep, he's officially a local now

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over 6 years ago

I think it would be a risky signing, but given it seems we missed out on a recent target because of an injury I do understand why we are looking at him

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over 6 years ago

It all comes down to $$$$ for me; and that's why I expect he'll go to WU. If he's after not much $$$, then as a Plan C he'd have a higher potential upside for a relatively low cost - then we have $$$ in the kitty to wait for a proper/better/visa striker who fits the bill to become available either soon, or in the next transfer window.

I can see the potential upsides, and the likelihood of a reduction in risk/cost; but I don't don't see it happening.

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over 6 years ago

james dean wrote:

I think it would be a risky signing, but given it seems we missed out on a recent target because of an injury I do understand why we are looking at him

There is absolutely nothing to suggest we're looking at him other than people saying we should on here. The article was a generic - 'he's unemployed and used to play in the A-League' type article.

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over 6 years ago

Hard News wrote:

james dean wrote:

I think it would be a risky signing, but given it seems we missed out on a recent target because of an injury I do understand why we are looking at him

There is absolutely nothing to suggest we're looking at him other than people saying we should on here. The article was a generic - 'he's unemployed and used to play in the A-League' type article.

Michael Lynch in The Age suggesting we are interested.  Agree that it's pretty unlikely signing for a number of reasons

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over 6 years ago

Berisha vs Durante will add yet another drama to round one, of course Dura and Berisha in the same team would also be interesting.

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over 6 years ago

surly you guys are having a laugh not wanting berisha as much of a cock he is.  The guy isnt even an import means a proven a league striker with an import slot available still.   Yes he's barely played there last 18 month's but get him fit and you know what you will get out of him.

... he'll kick Dura in the opening game and get sent off???



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over 6 years ago

I was very happy not seeing Berisha antics for a while and I hope it stays that way. I'm not a fan of another transition season but I would a prefer a young striker over watching Berisha any time.

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over 6 years ago

Should have kept Cillian Sheridan ??

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over 6 years ago

Can’t see Rudan being mad enough to take Berisha into the same team as Dura - just picture the headlines - two guys get sent off for fighting when they’re on the same team... most likely he’ll play for Mel City as a replacement when McLaren loses his wheels. Not a fan of seeing him here whatever his ‘100%’ commitment.

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over 6 years ago

Ranix wrote:

Should have kept Cillian Sheridan ??

If we wanted someone to not score goals we could just as easily have kept Burns.


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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

Yes Nelfoos you must be right. If we sign the all time leading goalscorer in the A League we will be heading for the wooden spoon. Better sign someone who can't make it at Scodhorpe. That'll surely help us score goals

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over 6 years ago

We wouldn't be signing Lewis instead of Berisha. If we signed Lewis he plays a different role.

Personally I don't see us signing Berisha (partly because a player of that age doesn't fit what we're trying to do and partly because they will try and shoe horn him into an Aus club) but we will still sign a younger import forward in the roll he would take.

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Bozo wrote:

Yes Nelfoos you must be right. If we sign the all time leading goalscorer in the A League we will be heading for the wooden spoon. Better sign someone who can't make it at Scodhorpe. That'll surely help us score goals

Relevant username I guess. 

Not advocating for either of them as first choice, but Lewis isn't close to 34 years old, we've seen him play within the last 2 weeks, so we know where he's at right now. Berisha, we're less sure, and the signs are less promising.

I'm not saying its one or the other. Both are surplus to requirements. I'd much rather have Lewis as a "luxury" signing than Berisha. Neither are the player we need and I feel we're in need of more CM/CAM cover than we are of 2 more strikers.

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over 6 years ago

Reality is the squad appears short of goals, so we definitely need to sign another forward.

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over 6 years ago

james dean wrote:

Reality is the squad appears short of goals, so we definitely need to sign another forward.

we are trying to sign one now. I'll get in trouble with my source if i say but we are talking to a 31 year old target man
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over 6 years ago

Giles Barnes, Victor Anichebe, or Gary Hooper?

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over 6 years ago

Hard News wrote:

We wouldn't be signing Lewis instead of Berisha. If we signed Lewis he plays a different role.

Personally I don't see us signing Berisha (partly because a player of that age doesn't fit what we're trying to do and partly because they will try and shoe horn him into an Aus club) but we will still sign a younger import forward in the roll he would take.

Sausage roll? :drool:

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over 6 years ago

mrsmiis wrote:

Giles Barnes, Victor Anichebe, or Gary Hooper?

Hoping for Hooper

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over 6 years ago

Not hooper

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over 6 years ago

Former victory players do not have a great track record at our club.

yung thug

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over 6 years ago

Looks like Giles Barnes was at Colorado at the same time as Hudson so there is a kiwi connection there.

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over 6 years ago

Looks like Giles Barnes was at Colorado at the same time as Hudson so there is a kiwi connection there.

its not barnes either
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over 6 years ago

Jazzy Jeff wrote:

Looks like Giles Barnes was at Colorado at the same time as Hudson so there is a kiwi connection there.

its not barnes either

Do you know who we're looking at? Some clues would be great...

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Jazzy Jeff wrote:

Looks like Giles Barnes was at Colorado at the same time as Hudson so there is a kiwi connection there.

its not barnes either

I hope there talking to someone that's fit and ready to go. Cause even if it was someone like Anichebe. He'd obviously be great but hasn't played for 18 months..... So will take a while to get upto speed.

I'm not holding my breath though. 31yrs old and free agent also covers players like Jair and Burns.

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over 6 years ago

Degenerate wrote:

Jazzy Jeff wrote:

Looks like Giles Barnes was at Colorado at the same time as Hudson so there is a kiwi connection there.

its not barnes either

Do you know who we're looking at? Some clues would be great...

i genuinely can't say because I'll get people in trouble. He's 31 though, and South American
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Fudge. If its Jair I think I'd actually rather have Berisha.

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