What does the GCSB logo look like, if they were to provide compensatory sponsorship?
It gets worst for Huawei as they and the CEO get charged in the states.
I'm an optimistic pessimist.
I'm positive things will go wrong.
Yeeeeahhhh, how much do we believe that these are real charges and not part of Trumpy's trade war with China?
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This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Yeeeeahhhh, how much do we believe that these are real charges and not part of Trumpy's trade war with China?
Exactly, the fact that the US are the ones calling this, means it's complete and utter horsesharke. Believe nothing that comes from that horrific meddling country.
Yeeeeahhhh, how much do we believe that these are real charges and not part of Trumpy's trade war with China?
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
Yeeeeahhhh, how much do we believe that these are real charges and not part of Trumpy's trade war with China?
I don't see what counterfeit goods and the ingredients of P being exported to NZ have to do with anything? Or are we just going to name things we don't like about China and pretend that proves they are the bad guys and Huawei must be guilty?
Yeeeeahhhh, how much do we believe that these are real charges and not part of Trumpy's trade war with China?
I don't see what counterfeit goods and the ingredients of P being exported to NZ have to do with anything? Or are we just going to name things we don't like about China and pretend that proves they are the bad guys and Huawei must be guilty?
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
NZ newspaper onto the story now. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/110463868/wellington-phoenix-unsure-whether-huawei-sponsorship-will-be-renewed
I'm an optimistic pessimist.
I'm positive things will go wrong.
Vodafone?
Didn't they just sell out to a foreign buyer for several billion dollars?
Vodafone?
Didn't they just sell out to a foreign buyer for several billion dollars?
Infratil bought a chunk too. And guess who owns a chunk of them? Anyone at Welnix?
Vodafone?
Didn't they just sell out to a foreign buyer for several billion dollars?
There's been a wierd knee-jerk reaction to the Vodafone announcement. Vodafone NZ has never been NZ owned, it was a wholly owned subsidiary of Vodafone UK and is now 50% owned by a NZ Company with an HQ in Wellington who also happen to be closely related to the Phoenix.
The logo will at least look better than Huawei's ..
Adelaide's resident Nix supporter
This would be quite an interesting development. As others have said, certainly prefer their logo to the current one...
Vodafone?
Didn't they just sell out to a foreign buyer for several billion dollars?
They were 50% bought by infratil which is the management fund set up by Lloyd and Rob Morrison.
So whats the deal with our sponsorship for next season? Is our deal with Huawei dead and buried from now on?
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.
Well, if Huawei want's to be involved in the Vodafone 5g roll out it woudln't hurt to renew their sponsorship with the Phoenix now would it?
this is nutty for a few reasons- I thought handset sales were going gangbusters. Also you've suffered through Kalezic and now the top scorer and top voted player in Australasia has been wearing your brand on his chest (and he also has a lot of publicity in Fiji). Lastly if there is vaguely any political motivation the idea that taking away soccer sponsorship will have much pull with NZ at large is not much of a starter.
Ahh- read above Welnix bringing sponsorship in house?
If Huawei go, does this mean less games in Auckland? Wasn't that one of their stipulations.
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this is nutty for a few reasons- I thought handset sales were going gangbusters. Also you've suffered through Kalezic and now the top scorer and top voted player in Australasia has been wearing your brand on his chest (and he also has a lot of publicity in Fiji). Lastly if there is vaguely any political motivation the idea that taking away soccer sponsorship will have much pull with NZ at large is not much of a starter.
Ahh- read above Welnix bringing sponsorship in house?
It's not really that nutty - this forum is well respected for wild, unsubstantiated claims.
Handset sales don't make anyone any money. That's not what Huawei care about, and it won't be part of Infratil's case for buying a chunk of Voda NZ.
this is nutty for a few reasons- I thought handset sales were going gangbusters. Also you've suffered through Kalezic and now the top scorer and top voted player in Australasia has been wearing your brand on his chest (and he also has a lot of publicity in Fiji). Lastly if there is vaguely any political motivation the idea that taking away soccer sponsorship will have much pull with NZ at large is not much of a starter.
Ahh- read above Welnix bringing sponsorship in house?
It's not really that nutty - this forum is well respected for wild, unsubstantiated claims.
Handset sales don't make anyone any money. That's not what Huawei care about, and it won't be part of Infratil's case for buying a chunk of Voda NZ.
Their press is about them is currently so negative they will chunk in more money to make them look popular.
I notice we aren't at the Hong Kong 7s this year. Not sure if there is something to read into that or not.
I notice we aren't at the Hong Kong 7s this year. Not sure if there is something to read into that or not.
we only have six players?
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If Huawei go, does this mean less games in Auckland? Wasn't that one of their stipulations.
#HuaweiIN
I notice we aren't at the Hong Kong 7s this year. Not sure if there is something to read into that or not.
we only have six players?
U20 WC, Panda cup, and focus on doing well in CL and Cap1. Usually would put out a young side, just not enough quality avail to compete and cost vs benefit in that scenario not worth it.
this is nutty for a few reasons- I thought handset sales were going gangbusters. Also you've suffered through Kalezic and now the top scorer and top voted player in Australasia has been wearing your brand on his chest (and he also has a lot of publicity in Fiji). Lastly if there is vaguely any political motivation the idea that taking away soccer sponsorship will have much pull with NZ at large is not much of a starter.
Ahh- read above Welnix bringing sponsorship in house?
It's not really that nutty - this forum is well respected for wild, unsubstantiated claims.
Handset sales don't make anyone any money. That's not what Huawei care about, and it won't be part of Infratil's case for buying a chunk of Voda NZ.
Rob's plan to rote the salary cap. Get all the player's WAGS sales rep "jobs" at Vodafone on $200K salaries.
Vodafone? Very Kingzy.
As long as they don't start calling us the Vodafone Phoenix
Vodafone? Very Kingzy.
As long as they don't start calling us the Vodafone Phoenix
I would accept the "Vodafone Battlers". We would instantly gain a whole lot of supporters!
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Apparently ARM has banned Huawei from using ARM processors, you'd imagine that Intel is doing the same. There aren't many CPU chipsets out there for them to license, pretty much all are US or European controlled. There are domestic Chinese and Russian CPU architectures but not designed for mobile devices.
They can continue to use their current licensed ARM architecture but that's going to fall out of date very quickly and why would people buy a Huawei phone without certainty about ongoing support? Unless things reverse Huawei is out of the high end smartphone market now, and the smartphone market in general in a couple of years.
Apparently ARM has banned Huawei from using ARM processors, you'd imagine that Intel is doing the same. There aren't many CPU chipsets out there for them to license, pretty much all are US or European controlled. There are domestic Chinese and Russian CPU architectures but not designed for mobile devices.
They can continue to use their current licensed ARM architecture but that's going to fall out of date very quickly and why would people buy a Huawei phone without certainty about ongoing support? Unless things reverse Huawei is out of the high end smartphone market now, and the smartphone market in general in a couple of years.
AMD does have some x86 cross licence with a Chinese firm that Huawei could use for certain tasks, but that doesn't scale down well to low power use of ARM chips. There are a few open source chip designs but they seem to be a couple of years behind current chips.
The whole situation is a bit weird, Western countries worried about Chinese Govt influence when the US Govt is doing the same. It's not like the USA has not used backdoors in network gear to spy before.
Apparently ARM has banned Huawei from using ARM processors, you'd imagine that Intel is doing the same. There aren't many CPU chipsets out there for them to license, pretty much all are US or European controlled. There are domestic Chinese and Russian CPU architectures but not designed for mobile devices.
They can continue to use their current licensed ARM architecture but that's going to fall out of date very quickly and why would people buy a Huawei phone without certainty about ongoing support? Unless things reverse Huawei is out of the high end smartphone market now, and the smartphone market in general in a couple of years.
AMD does have some x86 cross licence with a Chinese firm that Huawei could use for certain tasks, but that doesn't scale down well to low power use of ARM chips. There are a few open source chip designs but they seem to be a couple of years behind current chips.
The whole situation is a bit weird, Western countries worried about Chinese Govt influence when the US Govt is doing the same. It's not like the USA has not used backdoors in network gear to spy before.
It's nothing to do with spying and everything to do with Trump/USA trying to big ball China
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Apparently ARM has banned Huawei from using ARM processors, you'd imagine that Intel is doing the same. There aren't many CPU chipsets out there for them to license, pretty much all are US or European controlled. There are domestic Chinese and Russian CPU architectures but not designed for mobile devices.
They can continue to use their current licensed ARM architecture but that's going to fall out of date very quickly and why would people buy a Huawei phone without certainty about ongoing support? Unless things reverse Huawei is out of the high end smartphone market now, and the smartphone market in general in a couple of years.
AMD does have some x86 cross licence with a Chinese firm that Huawei could use for certain tasks, but that doesn't scale down well to low power use of ARM chips. There are a few open source chip designs but they seem to be a couple of years behind current chips.
The whole situation is a bit weird, Western countries worried about Chinese Govt influence when the US Govt is doing the same. It's not like the USA has not used backdoors in network gear to spy before.
AMD is californian, if a British headquartered CPU designer can't sell to Huawei you'd imagine that a US chip designer and manufacturer can't either.
Also, there's reasons why x86 is still struggling to get a foothold in the mobile marketplace.
Apparently ARM has banned Huawei from using ARM processors, you'd imagine that Intel is doing the same. There aren't many CPU chipsets out there for them to license, pretty much all are US or European controlled. There are domestic Chinese and Russian CPU architectures but not designed for mobile devices.
They can continue to use their current licensed ARM architecture but that's going to fall out of date very quickly and why would people buy a Huawei phone without certainty about ongoing support? Unless things reverse Huawei is out of the high end smartphone market now, and the smartphone market in general in a couple of years.
AMD does have some x86 cross licence with a Chinese firm that Huawei could use for certain tasks, but that doesn't scale down well to low power use of ARM chips. There are a few open source chip designs but they seem to be a couple of years behind current chips.
The whole situation is a bit weird, Western countries worried about Chinese Govt influence when the US Govt is doing the same. It's not like the USA has not used backdoors in network gear to spy before.
AMD is californian, if a British headquartered CPU designer can't sell to Huawei you'd imagine that a US chip designer and manufacturer can't either.
Also, there's reasons why x86 is still struggling to get a foothold in the mobile marketplace.
Back on the shirts and not getting much social media love #sad
Why should they? The company is basically accused to enabling spying on us. I can’t tell you how many times I get comments about the Huawei logo wearing the gear. We take the money, but we don’t love them, I guess.
Back on the shirts and not getting much social media love #sad
Why should they? The company is basically accused to enabling spying on us. I can’t tell you how many times I get comments about the Huawei logo wearing the gear. We take the money, but we don’t love them, I guess.
That's political. The brits audited Huawei code and couldn't find backdoors or spyware, they did however find sub par engineer and sdlc practices.
I guess if the Chinese are more tech savy and better Spys
then the Brits wouldn't find it however
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