Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2012/13

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think Brockie would be a good acquisition - young, talented, relatively quick and knows where the net is.

My intuition tells me he would thrive in an environment with the likes of Ifill, Greeny, Dura etc to mentor and motivate him.

Sign him up (for the right price).

Whitby boy2012-04-11 19:34:16

He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Would be very happy to see Brockie in a Nix shirt. Good player, still improving. Also the more Kiwis in the team the better.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

A good old knights boy as well

His next couple of years should be his best

As long as he is signed with a view to playing him wide right and he is not expected to be our new gun ho striker, I will be happy

Auckland will rise once more

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Very Decent player, kiwi, and we have no depth and stacks of players off contract. As long as his salary expectations are reasonable, of course we should sign him.Marius Lacatus2012-04-11 21:09:53

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AucklandPhoenix wrote:

As long as he is signed with a view to playing him wide right and he is not expected to be our new gun ho striker, I will be happy

For sure. He will provide depth to the squad and provide competition for wing and striker positions.
Another class striker should surely be expected.

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

For our right wing, I would start Brockie over Leo & Sanchez (Who have been playing there this season) any day..

And he's young and he's a kiwi. Sign him plz

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Just looking at his career stats. Had an OK year with Knights, equal highest scorer with an import player.
Then hardly played at Sydney, poor showing at Fury but no-one did well there.
First season at the Jets wasn't great, this season however looks pretty good.
9 goals in 21 starts, 27 appearances. That's a 1:3 goal appearance ratio for this season.
Pretty decent. He needs to keep it up though.

Does any one remember why he left Sydney early?

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I wouldn't say he was poor at Fury. If he had been the Jets wouldn't have picked him up. Actually he improved a lot during that season, perhaps as a result of playing alongside Fowler. Scored a few goals, set some up, then got his leg broken by that twat Michael Zullo.

Last season he continued that improvement - which is maybe the key word with Brockie. He's definitely getting better and better.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

asmodeus_82 wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

As long as he is signed with a view to playing him wide right and he is not expected to be our new gun ho striker, I will be happy

For sure. He will provide depth to the squad and provide competition for wing and striker positions.
Another class striker should surely be expected.

Agree he'd be a useful squad player- just don't expect him to always score goals.

See also this Yellow Fever thread under 'Kiwi players Overseas":

http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12539&PN=4

Can only repeat my posting there:

Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 1:49pm

Just noticed this comment from a pre-season game that Brockie "missed four good opportunities"- which unfortunately has been par-for-the-course for most of Jeremy's career since he left Nelson Suburbs as a teenager.

So, good to see his improved form this season.

Agree that Brockie is now a useful player- he's improved his game and become a much better player in recent years.

As someone living in Christchurch who grew up in Nelson, I've followed Jeremy's career since he was a teenager playing for Nelson Suburbs in the Mainland Premier League.

Previously he had many flaws such as being a very poor finisher (Leo Bertos level).

The impression was unfortunately created that Brockie was a capable goal-scorer and an out-and-out striker due to his fluke two goals on debut for the NZ Knights in the A-League and a couple in games after.

This gave a false impression because previously he had proved one of the worst finishers ever of all strikers in any Christchurch national league side in history.

Nelson team-mate Michael White turned out to be a more effective all-round player and goal-scorer for Canterbury Utd.

Brockie's senior club record and goals:

YearsTeamAppsï¿½(Gls)ï¿½2003Nelson Suburbs24(12)2004ï¿½2005Canterbury United15(0)2005ï¿½2006New Zealand Knights12(4)2006Canterbury United6(2)2006ï¿½2007Sydney FC7(0)2007ï¿½2008Hawke's Bay United15(3)2008Team Wellington1(0)2009ï¿½2010North Queensland Fury14(1)2010ï¿½Newcastle Jets35(11)

Note that he scored 0 goals in his debut season for Canterbury Utd in 15 games- despite often being used as an out-and-out striker (2 goals in 21 games in his Canterbury career). I well remember sitting with my mates and cringing at the open goals and many sitters he missed: "Oh no! Don't give it to Brockie!"

Seasoned obervers also noted he couldn't dribble and beat players- he'd just boot the ball up the sideline and chase it.

We found it incredible when he scored for the Knights in the A-League- however Sydney FC soon found this goal form was an aberration when they signed what they thought was a capable goal-scorer, only for Brockie to return to his previous mediocre level in this respect.

They had a raw talent- but not good enough for the A-League yet.

Before this season, Brockie had only scored one goal in his time at North Queensland Fury and twice for Newcastle last season, so his nine goals so far this season and greatly improved play are very positive.

However, Ricki Herbert has always preferred Leo Bertos for the Nix (and the All Whites), and as long as he does so, the chances of Brockie coming to the Nix remain slim.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

^^^(@stopout)I'm just looking at the Stats, only scored once for them. Can't have gotten more than two assists, doesn't feature in the top assist stats for 09-10.
Definitely showing a trend of improvement over his career though. Here's hoping he continues the the trend here and has his best season yet!
Also 3 assists for the Jets this season.asmodeus_822012-04-12 01:03:29

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

442 reporting we're in for him

Normo's coming home

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Tunnel Vision wrote:

I dont think he is quite as lazy for a striker as people are suggesting. A lot of strikers go missing for a while and then pop up and score. A lot of people consider that a sign of a good striker. Someone who takes their chances.

I'm not even saying he's lazy. You really have to be at a game live to see how much a striker works and he didn't get a lot of game time when he played against us. He doesn't strike me as a player with a huge work rate though. I'm still quite keen on him because I desperately want some pace up front. The point I was trying to make is that he needs, and does, offer more than the ability to score goals.

My only qualm would be how much he wants. One of the recent articles claimed he thought an offer from Newcastle of around $133,000 (one third of the Chinese offer) was too small. Who knows if that is true but if it is I wouldn't want him.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sign brockie if we don't have to pay excessive wages for him. Will be easier to get him a bit cheaper now that the Jets have folded

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

rjmiller wrote:

Tunnel Vision wrote:

Agree, However ditch Daniel and sign Brockie, and we may even save some moneys

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

brockie is a no brainer as long as he is not asking too much.

what we also are desperate for is a centre back who can head the ball to act as cover for sig and durra. the perth game showed us that. after those 2 and a replacement for brown then lets hope riki can turn up some gems on his travels.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

goldienz wrote:

He might just be a great player when put amongst a good team, and not a great individual player who carries a team.

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20

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Tunnel Vision wrote:

Azevo wrote:

Brockie confuses me like Boy George did in the 80's Don't know if he'd work in the Nix.. His goals this season were great, thats for sure, but what else did he do?

He scored 9 goals for the 7th placed team. What more do you want him to do? wear the goalkeeping gloves?

I do.

The coaches critique of him was he goes quiet all game and then bang, goal(s).. That what we want in a (s)winger? Would he just become Smeltzy in disguise? Do you like large sums of money and ham?Azevo2012-04-12 12:09:13

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Brockie is going to be the Phoenix's Left back for the next 10 years. Great signing

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Is it possible that the Jets fiasco on top of the GCU sh*tstorm is going to affect our ability to recruit in the off-season, at least until its sorted out? If I was a player based elsewhere I would think twice about the A League while the future of the league seems uncertain, unless I had very few other options. Worrying...

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

as long as it doesn't involve us I can't see it being an issue, all that is required is a statement from the FFA to say the league will continue with or with noobcastle

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Me on 24 Dec 2011 wrote:

Talked to Brockie last night. The ball is in Ricki's court.

I guess the only thing that could have changed between then and now (as others have stated) is whether Brockie thinks he's worth more now. Otherwise I'd say it's a done deal.

Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

When looking at Brockie's form at NQF you need to consider that he was coming good when he broke his leg...

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

While he was average against Jamaica, he has also been one of the better performers for the All Whites in recent times. Honduras, China etc.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Did Brockie play against Honduras? I thought the Honduras and Paraguay game were just the squad that went to South Africa for the world cup. Or maybe he was in the squad and I've forgotten him completely.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Walter+Martinez/Jeremy+Brockie

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Bloody hell. Memory is borked to the max

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

George Kostanza wrote:

Did Brockie play against Honduras?ï¿½ I thought the Honduras and Paraguay game were just the squad that went to South Africa for the world cup.ï¿½ Or maybe he was in the squad and I've forgotten him completely.

Yep, he played in both games. Provided the cross for Wood's goal against Honduras if I remember correctly.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

played left back didnt he?

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

How about this Phoenix line-up:

Ifill   -   Greenacre   -   Brockie

            Sanchez

      Smith    -   Muscat

(New LB) Siggy - Dura (New RB)

             Moss

Bench: Bertos, Ward, Lindsay, Pastonjoshyboy0072012-04-12 19:44:26

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Ironically given how things were for us a year ago, Brockie might be coming here for a bit of job security. This whole jets fiasco must be very stressful and exhausting as a player, and must make a secure job in a familiar environment on a reasonable (although not stellar) wage look very attractive.

It's quite nice to be able to offer a safe option when last off season we seemed to be losing potential signings based on Terry's increasingly tenuous grasp on the team.

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joshyboy007 wrote:

How about this Phoenix line-up:

Ifill   -   Greenacre   -   Brockie

            Sanchez

      Smith    -   Muscat

(New LB) Siggy - Dura (New RB)

             Moss

Bench: Bertos, Ward, Lindsay, Paston

Bench needs defensive cover...11 is to attacking..would leak goals.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Good start to the off season in my book. Quality signing and the press releases on our youth development program.
Plus the talk of Ricki shopping in UK and South America.
Hopefully the positive start is a sign of things to come.

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I'm hoping for something like this:

Ifill (newstarstriker)   Brockie
          Sanchez
      Smith     Muscat
Lochy Dura Siggy NewRB
       Pasty/Moss
Don't see a mew left back in the works, needs youth development for sure.
Would like a Adrezhino style RB to free up Muscat and bomb the wings, so long as the defend with some proficiency.
Out of interest do people generally agree that 4-3-3 is the way to go for the Nix?

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

asmodeus_82 wrote:

Have to say this thread is about the most stupid thread on the Nix website.The spectulation/we should have is silly.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

joshyboy007 wrote:

No. We need a new midfield, and greenie won't be playing (starting at least)

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Brockie drifts out of games more than Leo, imo - would have him on the bench, especially if Pantelis is back and playing decent.

a.haak

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Has anyone thought of what foreign players might be thinking when they are considering the A-League with the Gold Coast/Newcastle stuff leading all the headlines in the off season?

Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think we should have a good hard look at Scotland. The pound is weak and their league is financially in a bigger mess at the moment with clubs like rangers and hearts falling down

Clearly we can compete if players like miller and Sutton are coming here. Sanchez was a reject there as well and he appears to be on the verge of another contract.
AucklandPhoenix2012-04-12 22:05:07

Auckland will rise once more

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AucklandPhoenix wrote:

Isnt Spain also struggling? Sanchez said he knew of players looking for a future

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

He might not like it, but Muscat needs to stay at right back. We have looked for one for years, and haven't found any one near his ability at RB. It is much easier to find a quality DM, than it is to find a RB.

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