Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
Riera's improved significantly since his first few games. Back then he was more of a liability, especially when he tired and hacked players down.
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Riera's improved significantly since his first few games. Back then he was more of a liability, especially when he tired and hacked players down.
I think Ernie is obviously the better coach... Stands to reason... He's Scottish.
Auckland City FC
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I agree with sentence one and two. Your last one not so much - NZ players would be imports?
Auckland City FC
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I do agree with this. To ignore it seemed like such a waste of potential and immediate talent that we would actually be able to tap in more easily than our competition.
Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
There is a couple of things I will point out. Benji Totori lit up the ASBP/NZFC as well across a couple of teams he played for. How did that work out for him? (and the counterfactual is Riera I suppose). Also how many trials has he had that have not worked?
Roy needs to improve his discipline markedly in this league because he is known for his dirty cheapshots. Also If he has a problem with Bill Robertson up his backside, its not going to get easier in the HAL. His best attribute is that he does bring out and out speed and if he can run past anyone (how's that working for Kenny?) then he may be ok.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Riera's improved significantly since his first few games. Back then he was more of a liability, especially when he tired and hacked players down.
I think Ernie is obviously the better coach... Stands to reason... He's Scottish.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Ali won't come back and highlight this post if I am right.
True but why would I? It would make for a piss boring comment.
Auckland City FC
Riera's improved significantly since his first few games. Back then he was more of a liability, especially when he tired and hacked players down.
I think Ernie is obviously the better coach... Stands to reason... He's Scottish.
Fuck me... Not again.
Auckland City FC
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I do agree with this. To ignore it seemed like such a waste of potential and immediate talent that we would actually be able to tap in more easily than our competition.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
There is a couple of things I will point out. Benji Totori lit up the ASBP/NZFC as well across a couple of teams he played for. How did that work out for him? (and the counterfactual is Riera I suppose). Also how many trials has he had that have not worked?
Roy needs to improve his discipline markedly in this league because he is known for his dirty cheapshots. Also If he has a problem with Bill Robertson up his backside, its not going to get easier in the HAL. His best attribute is that he does bring out and out speed and if he can run past anyone (how's that working for Kenny?) then he may be ok.
Counter - Tyler Boyd merely went ok in the ASBP, but he's had some real positive impacts over the past few weeks. If he can do it, why can't Roy?
I don't see anything wrong with the Krishna signing. He's a flawed player, but he has definite usable skills. If this were a two year contract like Totori (which I slagged off at the time), then I'd be dubious, but as an injury replacement on a short-term deal, I think it is a low-risk move which gives him a chance to prove himself off the bench, can't argue with it.
Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
There is a couple of things I will point out. Benji Totori lit up the ASBP/NZFC as well across a couple of teams he played for. How did that work out for him? (and the counterfactual is Riera I suppose). Also how many trials has he had that have not worked?
Roy needs to improve his discipline markedly in this league because he is known for his dirty cheapshots. Also If he has a problem with Bill Robertson up his backside, its not going to get easier in the HAL. His best attribute is that he does bring out and out speed and if he can run past anyone (how's that working for Kenny?) then he may be ok.
Brimming with positive feelings and optimism as per usual JV. I think Krishna could do well with his pace and eye for goal. He has improved under Ramon Tribuliex and I think he'll continue to develop under Merrick. His temperament when lumps are being kicked off him is a weakness but that can be worked on with onfield discipline.
Now please, no more raids on ACFC this season chaps. We've got a tough O League campaign ahead of us.
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I do agree with this. To ignore it seemed like such a waste of potential and immediate talent that we would actually be able to tap in more easily than our competition.
Asian Ladyboy League notorious for its man to man marking ...finishing is extra....
Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
There is a couple of things I will point out. Benji Totori lit up the ASBP/NZFC as well across a couple of teams he played for. How did that work out for him? (and the counterfactual is Riera I suppose). Also how many trials has he had that have not worked?
Roy needs to improve his discipline markedly in this league because he is known for his dirty cheapshots. Also If he has a problem with Bill Robertson up his backside, its not going to get easier in the HAL. His best attribute is that he does bring out and out speed and if he can run past anyone (how's that working for Kenny?) then he may be ok.
Brimming with positive feelings and optimism as per usual JV. I think Krishna could do well with his pace and eye for goal. He has improved under Ramon Tribuliex and I think he'll continue to develop under Merrick. His temperament when lumps are being kicked off him is a weakness but that can be worked on with onfield discipline.
Now please, no more raids on ACFC this season chaps. We've got a tough O League campaign ahead of us.
Seems bold to say he's improved under Ramon when's he's barely played under him, and has scored, what, twice in five games?
Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
There is a couple of things I will point out. Benji Totori lit up the ASBP/NZFC as well across a couple of teams he played for. How did that work out for him? (and the counterfactual is Riera I suppose). Also how many trials has he had that have not worked?
Roy needs to improve his discipline markedly in this league because he is known for his dirty cheapshots. Also If he has a problem with Bill Robertson up his backside, its not going to get easier in the HAL. His best attribute is that he does bring out and out speed and if he can run past anyone (how's that working for Kenny?) then he may be ok.
Counter - Tyler Boyd merely went ok in the ASBP, but he's had some real positive impacts over the past few weeks. If he can do it, why can't Roy?
I don't see anything wrong with the Krishna signing. He's a flawed player, but he has definite usable skills. If this were a two year contract like Totori (which I slagged off at the time), then I'd be dubious, but as an injury replacement on a short-term deal, I think it is a low-risk move which gives him a chance to prove himself off the bench, can't argue with it.
I have gut feeling that Krishna could well end up being yet another Totori type flop in the a-lague - yes he may be talented a scores heaps in ASBP and for Fiji but that doesn't necessarily translate into A-league goals. Boyd didn't exactly set the world on fire - it took a year before he's begun to figure as a sub. I'll reserve judgement for now, but the first time Krishna runs the ball over the line when he's on attack I'll be calling for him to be gone.
Queenslander 3x a year.
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I agree with sentence one and two. Your last one not so much - NZ players would be imports?
Didnt stop Brockie, Kosta, Rojas though did it? Granted the latter two came through us first, and Brockie via Knights, but the more that continue to roll through Im sure Aussie will be looking. One of the Edge boys plays for CCM youth, does he not?
Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
There is a couple of things I will point out. Benji Totori lit up the ASBP/NZFC as well across a couple of teams he played for. How did that work out for him? (and the counterfactual is Riera I suppose). Also how many trials has he had that have not worked?
Roy needs to improve his discipline markedly in this league because he is known for his dirty cheapshots. Also If he has a problem with Bill Robertson up his backside, its not going to get easier in the HAL. His best attribute is that he does bring out and out speed and if he can run past anyone (how's that working for Kenny?) then he may be ok.
Counter - Tyler Boyd merely went ok in the ASBP, but he's had some real positive impacts over the past few weeks. If he can do it, why can't Roy?
I don't see anything wrong with the Krishna signing. He's a flawed player, but he has definite usable skills. If this were a two year contract like Totori (which I slagged off at the time), then I'd be dubious, but as an injury replacement on a short-term deal, I think it is a low-risk move which gives him a chance to prove himself off the bench, can't argue with it.
I have gut feeling that Krishna could well end up being yet another Totori type flop in the a-lague - yes he may be talented a scores heaps in ASBP and for Fiji but that doesn't necessarily translate into A-league goals. Boyd didn't exactly set the world on fire - it took a year before he's begun to figure as a sub. I'll reserve judgement for now, but the first time Krishna runs the ball over the line when he's on attack I'll be calling for him to be gone.
It could happen, but Krishna is legitimately a much better player than Totori. And even if he doesn't succeed, there's no need to keep him around or pay him to leave like Benji, Krishna's situation is much more favourable if he can't play at the A-League level.
Poor Krishna. Hasn't even started and already he is being lined up for a kicking.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I agree with sentence one and two. Your last one not so much - NZ players would be imports?
Didnt stop Brockie, Kosta, Rojas though did it? Granted the latter two came through us first, and Brockie via Knights, but the more that continue to roll through Im sure Aussie will be looking. One of the Edge boys plays for CCM youth, does he not?
Nah that ship has long sailed.
I have gut feeling that Krishna could well end up being yet another Totori type flop in the a-lague - yes he may be talented a scores heaps in ASBP and for Fiji but that doesn't necessarily translate into A-league goals. Boyd didn't exactly set the world on fire - it took a year before he's begun to figure as a sub. I'll reserve judgement for now, but the first time Krishna runs the ball over the line when he's on attack I'll be calling for him to be gone.
You confusing him deliberately ?
Give him a chance
I'll back Ernie on this, go for it Roy
Boyd didn't exactly set the world on fire - it took a year before he's begun to figure as a sub.
Krishna is better than Boyd by some distance.
Three for me, and two for them.
Seems bold to say he's improved under Ramon when's he's barely played under him, and has scored, what, twice in five games?
The obvious does sometimes miss the ACFC fans....Grumpy old bastard alert
Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
There is a couple of things I will point out. Benji Totori lit up the ASBP/NZFC as well across a couple of teams he played for. How did that work out for him? (and the counterfactual is Riera I suppose). Also how many trials has he had that have not worked?
Roy needs to improve his discipline markedly in this league because he is known for his dirty cheapshots. Also If he has a problem with Bill Robertson up his backside, its not going to get easier in the HAL. His best attribute is that he does bring out and out speed and if he can run past anyone (how's that working for Kenny?) then he may be ok.
Counter - Tyler Boyd merely went ok in the ASBP, but he's had some real positive impacts over the past few weeks. If he can do it, why can't Roy?
I don't see anything wrong with the Krishna signing. He's a flawed player, but he has definite usable skills. If this were a two year contract like Totori (which I slagged off at the time), then I'd be dubious, but as an injury replacement on a short-term deal, I think it is a low-risk move which gives him a chance to prove himself off the bench, can't argue with it.
I take what you're saying generally but the Boyd/Krishna comparison is weak. Boyd was 16 when he was signed wasn't he? Hardly surprising that he didn't set the world alight before then.
Underwhelmed.
Wonder how this will hold up in 3 months.
I hope I'm wrong but on this one I tend to agree with the dark lord.
There is a couple of things I will point out. Benji Totori lit up the ASBP/NZFC as well across a couple of teams he played for. How did that work out for him? (and the counterfactual is Riera I suppose). Also how many trials has he had that have not worked?
Roy needs to improve his discipline markedly in this league because he is known for his dirty cheapshots. Also If he has a problem with Bill Robertson up his backside, its not going to get easier in the HAL. His best attribute is that he does bring out and out speed and if he can run past anyone (how's that working for Kenny?) then he may be ok.
I don't see anything wrong with the Krishna signing. He's a flawed player, but he has definite usable skills. If this were a two year contract like Totori (which I slagged off at the time), then I'd be dubious, but as an injury replacement on a short-term deal, I think it is a low-risk move which gives him a chance to prove himself off the bench, can't argue with it.
I guess I am underwhelmed because there is cash to play with Ifills salary and when they say they don't want to go outside the salary cap and sign a marquee (and fair enough), they've got Krishna for slightly less than what he gets in his usual brown envelope and the Thursday night cucumber sandwiches. We are in the transfer window and we could have used all of that and perhaps gotten a player on loan that is proven in a league that counts.
I wonder if he has an IRD number......
Grumpy old bastard alert
Don't see all the negativity.
Krishna is a good choice. Even if he doesn't come off he's a good call. If it works out- for him or the other bloke at least we've signed two strikers.
(TBH I think Benji is at least as good as what Kenny Cunningham has shown so far)
bit worried about our gap at the back and mids with the possiblity of suspensions etc.
Just thinking about this and something that was mentioned on the podcast that is slightly related.
There was a comment from (I think Boxy or maybe it was one of the others) that this would be a good test of Ernies network of agents/players in finding an Ifill replacement because the thought was that Ricki did ok in that area. Ernie seems to consistently go back to the ASBP and State league.
Does Ernie have much of a recruiting network?
Grumpy old bastard alert
I reckon that Krishna's goal scoring record might indicate that he'll be a success. A player who can maintain a record of more than a goal every two games over multiple seasons at any level is a bit of a rarity really. Having a knack for consistently scoring is separate from technical ability or anything else and is untrainable. Players either have it or they don't. We haven't had aplayer with that knack since Smeltz. Finishing chances has been our number one problem area this season, so why all the angst over a quick goalpoacher? Who did people expect, Messi?
I think it's a good signing.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Starting to sound like Doloras a bit there JV
Three for me, and two for them.
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I agree with sentence one and two. Your last one not so much - NZ players would be imports?
Both our ASBP players have been imports...
Starting to sound like Doloras a bit there JV
He wishes.
BTW, I'm pleasantly optimistic about this signing. Krishna looked helluva fast when I saw him at Kiwitea against the Nix, and speed up front is something we've been lacking - apart from Cunningham, who's kind of lacking in other departments.
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This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
I reckon that Krishna's goal scoring record might indicate that he'll be a success. A player who can maintain a record of more than a goal every two games over multiple seasons at any level is a bit of a rarity really. Having a knack for consistently scoring is separate from technical ability or anything else and is untrainable. Players either have it or they don't. We haven't had a player with that knack since Smeltz. Finishing chances has been our number one problem area this season, so why all the angst over a quick goalpoacher? Who did people expect, Messi?
I think it's a good signing.
Benji Totori
Career 149 games 104 goals
ASBP/NZFC 89 games 56 goals
Phoenix 15 games 0 goals
Grumpy old bastard alert
Starting to sound like Doloras a bit there JV
Grumpy old bastard alert
I just like the fact Ernie is prepared to dip into the ASB Premiership for new signings. Herbert not so much. For the ASB Premiership to be successful I think it needs to be a clear pathway to the professional game. The more gems the Phoenix find then the more other A-League clubs might look here too.
I agree with sentence one and two. Your last one not so much - NZ players would be imports?
Both our ASBP players have been imports...
Fair comment
Auckland City FC
I reckon that Krishna's goal scoring record might indicate that he'll be a success. A player who can maintain a record of more than a goal every two games over multiple seasons at any level is a bit of a rarity really. Having a knack for consistently scoring is separate from technical ability or anything else and is untrainable. Players either have it or they don't. We haven't had a player with that knack since Smeltz. Finishing chances has been our number one problem area this season, so why all the angst over a quick goalpoacher? Who did people expect, Messi?
I think it's a good signing.
Benji Totori
Career 149 games 104 goals
ASBP/NZFC 89 games 56 goals
Phoenix 15 games 0 goals
I still think on goalscoring record alone Krishna has done enough to warrant this short term contract and that he could be the sort of player who will thrive on delivery from the likes of Carlos and Stein.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
I think these 2 signings are a good move by Ernie.
If Krishna flops it won't cost us too much to have him on the books, and we can look at extending Lujic's contract if he turns out ok. If he doesn't there's still plenty of room left in the cap for another player to be brought in (Killen?)
If Krishna works out then we can ditch Lujic and have space in the cap for a midfielder.
Flaw: Finding the mystical players!
I reckon that Krishna's goal scoring record might indicate that he'll be a success. A player who can maintain a record of more than a goal every two games over multiple seasons at any level is a bit of a rarity really. Having a knack for consistently scoring is separate from technical ability or anything else and is untrainable. Players either have it or they don't. We haven't had a player with that knack since Smeltz. Finishing chances has been our number one problem area this season, so why all the angst over a quick goalpoacher? Who did people expect, Messi?
I think it's a good signing.
Benji Totori
Career 149 games 104 goals
ASBP/NZFC 89 games 56 goals
Phoenix 15 games 0 goals
Coach R Herbert....
Starting to sound like Doloras a bit there JV
He wishes.
BTW, I'm pleasantly optimistic about this signing. Krishna looked helluva fast when I saw him at Kiwitea against the Nix, and speed up front is something we've been lacking - apart from Cunningham, who's kind of lacking in other departments.
Kenny is like a fox terrier on P.....but once he gets his GPS recalibrated he will be fine for us!!!!!
Nothing to lose I guess by bringing in Roy and Milos Lujic for what effectively is a trial. Hope they do well. Such a Herbert thing to do though (revives my Totori and Pav nightmares). I know nothing about Roy. Have never seen him play, so can't comment. Lujic is definitely worth a look/see - was in the mix for Sydney a month or two back, and has a good Vic track record.
Have to say I'm underwhelmed though. Halfway through the season, looking like a football team that can play now, 3 wins in the trot including a win away to the reigning prems, only a handful of points from a home playoff or two, and yet we can only sign two triallists.
Don't get it. If the owners think we can win this league in the next year or two with cut price options, then OMG, they're in for a huge reality check.